Etihad plans long-term partnership with Air Serbia


The President and CEO of the Etihad Aviation Group, James Hogan, says his carrier is planning on a long-term partnership with Air Serbia, which will see the latter further develop its long haul operations. Mr Hogan's comments, made to the "N1" network, indicate that Etihad's involvement in Air Serbia will continue past the initial five-year investment and management agreement signed in 2013. "Air Serbia today is an integral part of our group. We entered this partnership for the long-term, we are not here for the short-term. But what is important is that we grow the business in a measured way. We want this business to be successful in the long-term, we want this business to continue its network coverage, we want to improve the depth of the network", Mr Hogan said.

Commenting on Air Serbia's future plans, the head of the Etihad Aviation Group said, "We see more opportunity over the next five years to do more long haul flying. However, to be successful in long haul flying you have to develop a destination and tourism strategy and cooperate with stakeholders. In aviation terms, it's about the mix of traffic. We have transfer traffic and destination traffic. Today it's probably more destination traffic among Serbians and ethnic traffic coming back. We want to bring in more holiday traffic, more leisure travellers and more business travellers through the system". He added, "I have every confidence that as the airport is upgraded, as the destination becomes more known all over the world, we can grow more the long haul element of Air Serbia in the next five years".

Mr Hogan rejected claims that Air Serbia is being subsidised, insisting that both Etihad and the government settled on an investment cycle, which is outlined in the agreement the two sides inked three years ago. "There are no subsidies, there is a clear shareholder contribution where we both contribute money and the airline is profitable. You have to clarify investment and state support. We have invested in the airline and Serbia has invested in the airline, same as we've invested in other airlines. At the end of the day, when you are developing a business, you have to have seed money, working capital and see the return on that capital. Both Etihad and the Serbian government, as shareholders, are investing equity in the business", Mr Hogan noted. He continued, "We entered into a partnership and we have a very simple model as we have with other airlines we invest in. What the government did is write off the debts of the past and these debts confuse people. We were not involved in the former Yugoslav Airlines. We were very clear that we would invest with a clean sheet of paper. That means that the debts were written off, we brought new money into the airline and we've grown from scratch. The annual report reflex the reality of that".

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  1. Anonymous09:03

    "We can grow more the long haul element of Air Serbia in the next five years"

    Would be interesting to see which destinations are in play.

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    1. Probably Beijing, Toronto or Chicago.

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  2. Anonymous09:04

    So much for some people claiming here that they will pull out after 5 years.

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    1. Anonymous09:31

      I remember that too. Wishful thinking by some.

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    2. Anonymous09:39

      I don't think Etihad staying was ever in doubt. The way all the airlines in the group helped with Air Serbia's JFK launch is probably best proof of that.

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    3. Anonymous09:57

      Dude, you know well the caliber of commentators here. They most vociferous ones have a fundamentally and inherently malicious and envious streak when it comes to Air Serbia. They spin the same old lies over and over again and inflame the crowds with such rhetoric. Forget what shit they're stirring. Mr Hogan's comments are a clear sign of the profitable nature of the business, and of the private-state partnership. There's a bright future for JU, and a distinguishable growth path, which is already much distinguishable compared to other ex-YU regional carriers.

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    4. Anonymous12:52

      Well, Etihad is far from being profitable, they are no Emirates. Remember the subsidies scandals from Sydney and how they were receiving billions from the Sheikh.

      I mean, it's ok to not be profitable as long as you are frank about it like QR is. But pretending you are making millions while receiving billions from the government is not cool.

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    5. Anonymous13:18

      It is good to plan ahead but things can change quickly. Some for better some for worse.

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    6. Anonymous14:46

      As with anything in life. I think there are far more regional carriers that deserve a higher does of pessimism than JU gets bombarded with daily. It is basically envy, whichever way and whatever spin story the hate brigade likes to spin it. And stories did we hear, over the past years.

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  3. Anonymous09:13

    So if we combine Kondic's statements from last week and now Hogans, they will basically increase frequencies on inter-European flights without opening new routes and develop long haul flights over the next few years. Interesting strategy.

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    1. Anonymous09:16

      Honestly I am not such a huge fan of that strategy. The risk is huge. Would it have been smarter to develop the inter-European market. Look at what Aegean is doing perhaps.

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    2. Anonymous09:19

      Don't know why people are constantly comparing JU and Aegean. Aegean operates from a tourist mecca and afford to open a number of seasonal routes. Add to that massive greek diaspora...

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    3. Anonymous09:22

      BTW Aegean posted a €21.5 million net loss in the first three months of the year. Hardly a model or example to look up to. Also what works for some airlines does not necessarily mean it will work for others.

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    4. Anonymous09:36

      Don't forget that Aegean operates out of a market where most of its local passengers can't travel due to strict capital controls.

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    5. Anonymous09:40

      You could also say that Air Serbia operates out of a market where most local passengers can't travel because they are poor. But that's why they have focused so much on transfer passengers.

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    6. Er Srbija ima izvesnu i solidnu buducnost kao partner Etihad grupe. Gospodin Hogan kroz intervju datom N1, to i sam potvrdjuje. Ni sam Etihad ne moze uspesno poslovati bez partnerstva, kodseringa, akvizacije... Kada drzava proda svoj vecinski udeo u Er Srbiji (sto mora biti u saglasnosti propisa EU)tada ce rast, fleksibinost i efikasnost u poslovanju sa povecanjem trzista
      biti uspesniji. Bez privatnog investiranja ne moze kompanija biti efektivna, robusna i odgovorna deonicarima za profit, a drzavi za porez, sa kontrolom zakona. Sto i pripada drzavi. Da bi se opstalo na trzistu sa LCC prevoznicima koji ce se prosiriti pored Nisa i Morave i na Ponikve, Er Srbija kroz Etihad Grupu stvara uslove i okolnosti gde LCC nece biti konkurent. Profesionalnost i odgovornost uz privatno vlasnistvo su osnov uspesnosti u budcim vremenima i ovde u Srbiji. Sa verom u uspesnu Er Srbiju, dobro i prijatno leto. Srecno. Let fly!✈ Rod & Team.

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    7. Anonymous10:16

      I agree with Anon at 9:16am.

      The current European network is too small for profitable long haul routes during 7-8 months of the year.

      ASL should have three top priorities:

      1) Add several mid range jets and short haul a/c
      No. 1 makes it possible to
      2) add about one dozen of more European and regional destinations (discussed recently in this blog)
      3) increase frequencies of most of their European and regional destinations

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    8. JATBEGMEL10:58

      I don't think that JU will not add more destinations, its just they will focus more to boost frequencies to current destinations.

      - PRN is definitely opening. JU is currently hiring Guest Service Agents who speak Albanian. Further more, they are also looking for cabin crew who speak Albanian to be part of the A330 team. There is a number of applicants from Kosovo who have applied for jobs in JU. I wouldn't be surprised to see TIA go double daily soon.

      - ZAD has invited JU to open flights, to which has been put to the side for now. JU has room for growth in Croatia.

      - Oradea has also invited JU to start flights. Romanian market is easily reached with the ATR. Some O&D traffic already exists as well as trade.

      But yes, JU could do more with its current network.

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    9. Anonymous11:09

      Air Serbia will increase regional frequencies. Second A330 is coming, probably to increase JFK to daily and add ORD 3 per week for next summer. Third A330 is not yet confirmed, they need it if they want to add YYZ.

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    10. Anonymous12:28

      @ Radovan

      Znači sve što kaže Hogan, to je uspešno i mora da se provede do kraja? Kao da Etihad nikad nije imao neuspesi.

      Drugo, Niš, Morava i Ponikve bi samo preko LCC (i čartere) mogli da ikada prožive. AS a kamoli druge legacy aviokompanije neće skoro leteti sa ovih aerodroma.

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    11. Anonymous14:55

      Ne kaze se "neuspesi" nego "neuspeha". A koja to kompanja postoji koja nikada aman bas nije imala neki neuspeh. E takva ne postoji. Vazno je da Etihad nastavlja da bude vetar u ledjima JU. Vazan I mocan partner kao takav je misaona imenica za ostale regionalne kompnije.

      Sto se tice Nisa, on je, kako ti kazes, vec proziveo. Nema absolutno potrebe za legacy carriers tamo. Morava je sledeca. Kako platezna moc stanovnistva raste, tako ce da se nadje tu I poneki legacy. Turkish je trenutno zainteresovan za Moravu, u nekom dugorocnom planu. Videcemo...

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    12. Anonymous16:52

      Hvala na odgovoru. Rođen sam u SAD-u i verujem da pravim strašne greške. Ali mislio sam da se piše Niš a ne Nis, ili kažeš, a ne kazes.

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    13. Anonymous16:54

      Drzava ne mora prodati vecinski udio. To nije propis EU. Propis je da drzava ne smije davati subvencije jer se to kosi sa slobodnom trzisnom ekonomijom. Propis je isto tako da kompanija u EU ne smije imati vecinskog vlasnika van EU. Ni vlasnici van EU ne smiju davati subvencije. Niti smiju "investirati" kako Hogan kaze jer su te investicije podlozne istrazi Europske Komisije. Bit ce zanimljivo kad/ako Srbija udje u EU. Interesting times ahead.

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    14. Anonymous19:33

      Anonymous 9:36 AM I Think you are just joking.Please just tell me you do! You mean that- let'not talk about international passengers of AEGEAN (6.050.000)- 5.600.000 million passengers in domestic routes in 2015 were all tourist or rich greek people? Well I don't think so.

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    15. Nemjee19:53

      Last anon, what's the point of your comment?

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    16. Anonymous20:27

      His point is to prove that if Aegean does not fly long haul then no carrier smaller than Aegean should fly long haul. If someone dares to fly it then we have a conspiracy against taxpayers. And so on.

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    17. Anonymous21:46

      Anonymous 8:27 PM what you said is simply irrelevant! Combine anon 9:36 AM and 9:40 AM and perhaps you will understant what anon 7:33 PM wanted to say.

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    18. Anonymous22:38

      Anonymous 9:22 AM the 21.5 million € net loss of Aegean, at least is the companys loss and not the taxpayers.

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    19. Anonymous22:42

      Yeah that's because Greeks have never covered their airline's losses in the past. Neither have the Swiss, Italians, Poles, Spaniards, Scandinavians, Dutch... But you are right. No single taxpayer has given more to their airline then Slovenians to Adria. It wins hands down.

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    20. Anonymous22:51

      Anon 10:42 PM You are right the very past, and I hope you are refering to olympic because as you already know Aegean is from the beggining 100% private.

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    21. Nemjee23:00

      Greeks have financed Olympic but never Aegean or any of the other local airlines that have come and gone.

      The only government funds Aegean received was from the PSO routes to the islands, especially those that depart early in the morning to take newspaper, perishable goods, drugs...

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    22. Anonymous23:47

      Aegean is an OK airline and I wish them well. Just as I wish someone comes up with a medicine for this obsessive comparison of Air Serbia with Aegean and approving/disapproving each and every move ASL makes depending on whether Aegean does the same or not. I've been following aviation for 20 years and I have never seen such ludicrous line of argumentation.

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    23. Anonymous06:29

      Just to add to anon 11.47pm well stated comment... 2 other often overlooked facts -

      1. Aegean has 60+ aircraft (while JU has 21) and
      2. Aegean is an EU airline, which gives it greater flexibility with schedules and freedom's, than does JU, as a NON-eu AIRLINE ....

      The comparison's are ridiculous and non-sensical... any person with any understanding of aviation, would not attempt to make or draw any parallels between the two ....

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    24. Nemjee08:43

      I agree that these two airlines are somewhat different but A3's model is the one JU should be copying. Aegean has a bigger and wealthier home market and if they don't have a need for a dedicated business class product or long-haul flights then why should JU? Sure, Aegean has over 60 aircraft today but that's because they were cautious with their expansion and they invested a lot into building a recognizable brand image.

      People on here usually use that argument while I think they don't understand that they are where they are today because they were smart, not because they had a wealthy sugar-daddy.

      Also, last Anonymous, can you give us an example of how Aegean being an EU airline gave them an advantage over JU in terms of a greater flexibility with their scheduling and freedom. The last time I checked JU could fly to any airport within the EU without any restrictions.

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  4. Anonymous09:32

    I'm sure EY knows what's it doing.

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    1. Anonymous10:43

      just look at Air berlin.

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    2. Anonymous10:45

      It only has a 29% stake there.

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    3. Anonymous10:52

      Ok, then look at Alitalia.

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    4. Anonymous10:56

      Yeah I am looking at it and I notice they recorded a significant reduction in losses from -€580 million to €-199.1. Revenue was up, passenger numbers were up and LF was up. They are on a 3 year turnaround plan and are expected to record profit in 2017. You talk as if they took over a profitable buisness and have a magic wand and over night change the airline. They took over a dilapidated Alitalia.

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    5. Anonymous11:00

      Two years ago plans were for Air Berlin to delist and Alitalia to invest in Air Berlin. That didn't happen yet but some form of merger in the direction of future "Etihad Europe" will happen. Hogan's role is moving away from leading Etihad to leading group as a whole. Kondic might join him later as he is keen on succession planning at Air Serbia over the next 4-5 years.

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    6. Anonymous11:05

      btw. as of now Air Berlin doesnt own any aircrafts. only leasing. enough said

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    7. Anonymous16:48

      Air Berlin has never generated huge losses as they do at the moment. Etihad is just lost with them, obviously they do not know what to do.

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    8. Anonymous19:41

      True. Seems AB has multiplied the formerly small losses (relative to the company's size) since EY joined in.

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  5. Anonymous09:44

    O.T. Hamburg will be year-round. They will decrease and change schedule from 01. October. It will be 3 weekly flight.

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    1. Anonymous10:07

      Great. Any news about the other new routes?

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    2. Anonymous10:27

      Three weekly is weak unless they plan on keeping some regional night flights. That is unless they are after O&D in stead of transfer.

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    3. Anonymous10:28

      Yaaaaaaaay! :)

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    4. Anonymous10:33

      Woop woop! First good news as far as the winter schedule goes!!! So now we have 8 additional frequencies when compared to last year, 3 to HAM and 5 to JFK.

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    5. Anonymous11:24

      Isn't LED also year round?

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    6. Anonymous11:26

      They were all launched as seasonal (except New York)

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    7. Anonymous14:49

      yes, good news :-)

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    8. Anonymous16:25

      Pity that LED and KBP will be cut, they seem to be recording great LF.

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    9. Anonymous16:55

      How can you invest so much energy into promoting a destination, (LED, KBP) and they perform well, and the demand is still there in the winter season, and then you cut the route. I don't get it.

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    10. Anonymous16:57

      Is it a given that LED and KBP will be cut? I'm pretty sure they'll keep anything that makes sense, and all we've hears about these two indicates great loads.

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    11. Anonymous17:11

      The only problem i can see is a lack of aircraft.

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    12. Anonymous17:20

      The thing is they're performing really well without even too much promotion, especially in the case of KBP.

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    13. Nemjee17:26

      I am sure they would love to fly to all those destinations even during winter seasons but the thing is that they probably lack the necessary aircraft.

      If JP's Vesna was to stay then I am sure they would have kept KBP. They could have even deployed it to HAM on a daily basis.

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    14. Anonymous17:40

      How difficult is it to find and lease and available A319? I mean on the one hand thay need these routes for conecting flights to Europe/Med and now JFK. On the other hand it does not make sense to cut routes.

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    15. Nemjee17:57

      Finding an A319 is not the issue, it's finding one whose lease fits your budget.

      It's a shame that they turned the B733s into Aviolet. They should have refurbished them, repainted them and turned them into all economy. Numerous airlines are operating older aircraft as an interim solution. Even if an A319 or a newer Atr was too expensive for them, they could have expanded their Boeing fleet by adding one or two more. These could have been dispatched on regional night flights.

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    16. Anonymous21:45

      Completely agree with you Nemjee on the B737. Doing a full cabin refurbishment in addition to a new paint job (not just pasting a sticker) would bring B737 back to life. Most of the pax would probably think its a brand new plane lol.

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    17. JATBEGMEL23:53

      The B733 aircraft cabins are tired and worn out. Even the refurbished ATR's still look old.

      JAT had a negative image to travelers so its no surprise why they wanted to distance the aircraft from the Air Serbia brand by creating Aviolet. Even now the aircraft has its issues. There is a rumour however 1 or 2 more B733 may be brought back to service.

      I couldn't say enough that JAT's mistake was not replacing the DC9. Replacing the ATR with the ERJ, CRJ or SJJ would fit well, especially when the A319's get replaced for the A320 neo's. This type of aircraft is perfect for destinations like PRG, WAW, SOF, OTP, SJJ, SKP, SKG, TIA, VIE, MXP, TGD, TIV....

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    18. Nemjee08:36

      I highly doubt most passengers would even know that these B733s were inherited from Jat if they were refurbished and repainted.

      I am not saying they should send them to Paris or Zurich but they could easily do regional runs where extra capacity is needed like on Montenegro flights in summer. Also, some gasterbajter-friendly destinations could also get them like STR or TXL.

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  6. Anonymous11:25

    Friends who flew JU JFK-BEG-JFK gave me a brief feedback. Overall positive experience. Food was good for an airline food, FA service stands out. On the negative side, they could not use online checkin from JFK, expected more movies and complained location for power plug was weird.

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    1. Anonymous11:46

      Izbor filmova im je ocajan Kad porastem bicu kengur i Sakupljaci perija, Mobi Dik, ali ponavljam koga to interesuje vise kada imate moderne telefone. Nakrcate filmove koje zelite gledati i vozi Misko. Hrana im je ocajna za masovne obroke, ja sam imao odlicno spremljen brokoli i rizoto dok je moj saputnik imao isti nejestiv obrok. Hladjenje u avionu prejako. Ne dele dovoljno tecnosti.

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    2. JATBEGMEL12:14

      In regards to the movies and music selection, there is a lot to be done. Random movies, tv shows and music albums not properly labeled when viewed from your personal device. One would think they could offer similar offering throughout the EY group with JU providing more Serbian and regional offerings ie tv shows, music and movies from the region. They could stream channels such as Balkanika which would appealing for pax from across the region as an example.

      As for the catering, the food in JU is generally great from BEG on the longer sectors, however the latest update in the menu isn't the greatest. Flights up to 2 hours have fallen to Euro average, the sandwiches are terrible at best. Its just sandwich in the hand with a bar service.

      @ anonymous 11,25am

      airlines usually have the power plugs either under the seat or in the back of the seat with the screens. How is it in JU?

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    3. Anonymous12:27

      Ko nije probao LH smece od sendvica moze da se zali. Ne razumem svu tu frku oko cena legacy prevoznika dok im je nivo usluge krajnje tragican. Jedan solidan sendvic kod Tome pekara kosta 100 dinara koliko ga nemacka aviokompanija naplacuje kada je njihov tri puta gori.

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    4. Nemjee13:26

      I don't think many people fly on Lufthansa because of the service they offer. It's mostly because they have great connectivity and are reliable.

      I would say that having MUC as a hub helps a lot.

      Also, LH's service varies. On some morning flights they either serve you a cheese croissant, muffin or a piece of cake. While the afternoon ones it's either a sandwich or a similar snack. On our FRA-HEL we got a hot piece of pizza while to destinations such as LCA or ATH you get a hot meal.

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    5. Any word on the load on NYC flights?

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    6. Anonymous21:07

      DLH food (i.e sandwich) is barely tolerable, much worse than sandwiches you buy in a LCC. AUA is worse. AUA doesn't serve any food, just drinks. Also, in LH group, you have to pay your luggage. The whole group is one expensive mega LCC that pretends to be a legacy carrier. And they strike every other day.

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    7. Anonymous22:16

      OS gives you a chocolate on shorthaul routes. Flights longer than two hours you get a meal.

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    8. Anonymous22:43

      Economy was full for return from NYC.

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    9. Anonymous23:06

      OS does not give you chocolate. It gives you tiny piece, 10g of chocolate. Or (it is always OR, never AND) sometimes a tiny mandarin, or a single waffle. It is completely ridiculous, Uncle Scrooge service. Of course they have to give you some kind of meal when you fly intercontinental with them because every single company does that. However, 95% of their flights in Europe are two hours or less and are subject to this LCC service. LH turned OS into an expensive LCC.

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    10. JATBEGMEL23:40

      OS service is pathetic as with the cabin 'upgrade' they made in the B763 ac. The crew is a hit and miss, sometimes friendly sometimes rude, depends on who you come across. To BEG I remember it was a Milka chocolate and a bar service. LH to SPU a couple years back had a great cherry cake.

      I flew A3 from ATH to JTR and they did no service due to 'turbulence' handing out a cookie whilst pax were disembarking.

      EK on a DXB-DOH flight (40 mins) offer a tray with 2 sandwhiches, a muffin, water cuplet, as well as tea and coffee with other drinks on demand.

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  7. Anonymous13:44

    Interesting article. Seems like INI is indeed stealing passengers from BEG.

    http://www.novosti.rs/%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8/%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0/%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0.397.html:614324-Let-skoro-dzaba-moze-za-20-evra

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    1. Anonymous13:47

      'Радимо са више од пет различитих компанија, а најбоље се продају летови за Париз, Дортмунд, а од скоро и за Баден-Баден.'

      I guess Baden-Baden is doing well for Wizz.

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  8. Anonymous13:49

    Great news about more long haul flights to come. Looking forward to it.

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  9. Anonymous14:01

    OT Aerodrom Beograd ni posle 11 dana nema objavljen broj putnika za prošli mesec. Mnogo su zauzeti proslavom naj(goreg)menadžera i godišnjicom Nikole Tesle da bi objavili rezultate. Dno.

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    1. Anonymous14:07

      Ni Ljubljana ni Skoplje ni Podgorica. Dno!

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    2. Anonymous14:12

      Pa LJU nije iz istih razloga kao i BEG. SKP ce sijati kao i uvek.

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    3. Anonymous15:05

      Anonymous July 11, 2016 at 2:01 PM

      Tvoj degutantan komentar je dno dna.

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    4. Anonymous15:07

      It wouldn't surprise me that, in the interim, one of the PRC airlines starts these direct flights, with JU codesharing on it.

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    5. Anonymous15:08

      Sorry, meant for the below comment.

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    6. Anonymous16:58

      PRC airlines?

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    7. Anonymous17:52

      People's Republic of China.

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  10. Anonymous14:06

    It will be interesting to see if their future long haul flights will focus on east or west. When it comes to China ops there are currently more passengers from/to Shanghai flying to BEG then Beijing.

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    1. Anonymous17:08

      I really don't see Shanghai or Beijing starting before ORD, and YYZ.

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  11. Anonymous17:41

    With JU most of things with regards to inflight service / catering are good and comparable (if not better) with most competitors. One segment that requires immediate attention and improvement is punctuality. It is not acceptable to have early morning departures for major Euro cities being late every morning. CDG, AMS, ZRH, LHR depart / arrive every day with an average 20-30 min. Actually i don't remember a single flight from these key destinations arrive back to Beg on time! I flew JU several times last year and the key factor is late boarding start in Beg. Either the time between 2 flights is not optimized or the dispatch process is louzy thus resulting in the 10-20 min late departure. Instead of giving extra time between 2 flights in BEG to make up for eventual late arrival of the late incoming flight the flight schedule is built around AOG of 50minutes only. That might be ok in ZRH where processes are optimized and where people really work but Serbia is not at that productivity level hence the 50 min rotation is not sufficient. Overall punctuality is not there and it shadows all the other good things that JU currently offers. Kondic and his team just needt to engage and get that resolved.

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    1. Anonymous20:19

      Well said. When the flight leaves BEG late by 20-30 mins does it arrive on time in the destination airport?

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    2. Anonymous22:47

      Just one idiot more. they are waiting passengers from connecting flights,.

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    3. Anonymous08:41

      Can you keep the conversation civilised please? There's no need to call anyone an idiot. Besides, you justification for delays is silly. Why are the connecting flights delayed then? JU's on time performance is awful compared to bigger hub and spoke airlines and they really need to work on that.

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    4. Anonymous09:22

      JU's online performance is above 90%, so this trolling is really not necessary. Long,tedious "elaborations" are not going to make your lie any more believable.

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    5. Anonymous19:09

      Take a look at the airport departures / arrivals and do some math... If you come to punctuality of 90% then let us know how you did it!?!... Punctuality is not there...FYI SU closes the gate 20 min prior to take off time at SVO and aims to be airborn at indicated scheduled departure time!..JU starts the boarding process about 20 min prior to departure time. Does that illustrate the point???

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  12. Anonymous18:30

    The key issues are in the following as Hogan mentioned, "I have every confidence that as the airport is upgraded, as the destination becomes more known all over the world, we can grow more the long haul element of Air Serbia in the next five years".

    As there are NO, de facto improvement,t of BEG, more then cosmetics, the bottle neck of AirSerbia is BEG.

    Key personel are leaving the airport for AirSerbia, key elements of airport infrastructure investments are being faulted due to corruption on the highest levels.
    No masterplan, no understanding of what an airport is, not even an understanding by the management why you need a masterplan....the list is very long, even the Chairman of AirSerbia has understood that the bottleneck is BEG.

    And it's a disgrace that with all the money that is/has been invested in AirSerbia by Ethidad and the Serbian tax payers, this charade is allowed to continue.

    The latest example being the VDGS. A tender that was changed to fit a specific supplier (just follow their, BEG's, website) and the end result being in a system that the airport had 15 years ago, but removed just after 3 years because it didn't achieve the target of being useable in LVP. Not even the existing 11 VDGS does work in LVP.....being a major reason why you do invest in VDGS.

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    1. Anonymous19:24

      What is LVP and VDGS?

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    2. http://bfy.tw/6h9X

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    3. @VDGS
      http://bfy.tw/6hEh

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  13. Anonymous18:44

    The bagage handling system tender was a joke. 8 suppliers visited the airport to prepare their offer, ONE submitted their offer. Terms of reference was impossible for any other supplier.

    The Swiss (Serbian owned) company that won the tender has been involved in several corruption charges in Bosnia over the years.

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  14. Anonymous20:12

    OT: Serbian PM states in an (unrelated) press conference that "expected LF on JU JFK route was around 63-64%, however it is steady at 84-86%".

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    1. This statement is really blurry and unclear. While now the LF is around 85% (many times above that) I am confident that in winter it will be significantly lower. I also think that JU would never start this flights if they expected a LF of around 60% during summer! Vucic is clearly mixing between summer LF and winter one and a combined one. Combined LF might still be around 60-70% and no way around 85%.

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    2. Anonymous22:24

      I wonder if Angela Merkel is review the LF of particular LH routes :)))

      She probably gets a detailed report every morning...

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    3. Anonymous23:01

      Covek koji ne moze sebi da nadje povoljnu kartu voli da soli pamet premijeru oko LF. Ne lete ovom linijom balvani iz Bosne no Rvati, Bugari, Arapi, Crni Arapi da imenujem samo neke. Ti ce ljudi puniti ovu liniju i u zimskom periodu. Ova ce linija vuci samo trecinu putika iz Srbije.

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    4. JATBEGMEL23:32

      JFK seems to fill quite well in Y but J is a hit and miss. Sometimes ok loads, sometimes very light. There was lots on uncertainty for pax considering the removal of the 'subject to government approval' label only happened a week before the flight was launched. The schedule is not the best, and doesn't connect well network wide. JU doesn't allow booking for connections to Western Europe.

      Its still early days, JU has some improvements to make but in time will be much better. They will see what is working and what is not, through bookings, reviews and reports written by the crew.

      I'm interested to hear how cargo is doing and what cargo is being flown over.

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    5. Anonymous23:35

      "JU doesn't allow booking for connections to Western Europe." Why in the hell is that? They're doing the same from Kiev.

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    6. "Covek koji ne moze sebi da nadje povoljnu kartu voli da soli pamet premijeru oko LF."
      haha, but you forgot that I got a cheap ticket this year ;)

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  15. Anonymous21:50

    Is there BEG pax numbers for June ouf yet?

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  16. Anonymous22:23

    Some amazing offers with JU/EY from LJubljana:

    Ljubljana – Delhi 384€

    Ljubljana – Mumbaj 392€

    Ljubljana – Male 454€

    Ljubljana – Colombo 413€

    Ljubljana – Bangkok 410€

    Ljubljana – Peking 423€

    Ljubljana – Jakarta 461€

    Ljubljana – Ho Chi Minh 441€

    Ljubljana – Singapur 450€

    http://www.posvetu.si/blog/akcije/air-serbiaetihad-iz-ljubljane-in-zagreba-sri-lanka-in-bangkok-ze-za-430e-ho-chi-minh-441e-jakarta-515e-povratne/

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    1. Anonymous23:33

      Return?

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    2. Anonymous09:13

      It says "povratne".

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  17. Anonymous23:46

    OT: just an information my friends. What kind of airline is BUL AIR, what is its operation? Thanks in advance.

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    1. Anonymous00:05

      I've heard it's Vucic's private plane

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    2. Anonymous09:11

      And I've heard you forgot to take your medicine this morning.

      BUL Air is the charter division of Bulgaria Air.

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  18. Anonymous00:03

    Odlicno bi bilo kad bo doslo do zamene preostalih ATR i dodati jos nekoliko da se povecaju Regionalne frekvencije.
    INN-NS

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  19. Upravo dobih mail da su JetBlue i Air Serbia najavili novi interline agreement!!

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    1. Anonymous01:38

      Interline, a kada ce code-share?

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    2. Anonymous06:42

      Why exactly do you need codeshare ? An interline agreement gives you 90% of what a codeshare agreement gives you ...

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    3. Nemjee08:28

      An interline is worthless when you are competing on routes where your competitors either fly directly or offer a code-share alternative.

      An interline agreement is the most basic agreement there is and it usually pops up at the very bottom of your search when booking flights.

      As far as I know, there won't be a code-share with any US airline in the next two years.

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