Good work for both.

SJJ bounced back nicely. Hopefully the loss of Swiss won't affect it too much this winter.

Split has 25% increase last year comparing. That's a lot

Is this SJJ's first +100k month? congrats if so

In the article it says second

"It is only the second time Sarajevo has surpassed the 100.000 passenger threshold in a single month, the other being in August of last year".

Let's hope they keep it up in August too.

BEG did well. Best month on record and will probably have another record breaking month in August. It managed to surpass even figures posted during that year it handled over a million additional passengers.

Charter za Tursku je simboličan u odnosu na prošlu godinu. INI je imao za prvih 7 meseci skoro 40.000 putnika a znamo da bi najveći deo tih putnika leteo preko BEG onda je jasno koliko je ovih +4% dobar rezultat.

Let's quietly continue to search for best investor at BEG for the next three years. What's the rush, it's not like BEG is reaching its limits.

I think the concession will happen next year.

I am sure the airport would have handled 600.000 passengers if there was no crisis in Turkey and/or Egypt.
I hope an investor comes soon because BEG is a rather ugly airport and it needs someone with money and the know-how to modernize it.

Split had more than 542 000 pax in July! Fantastic!

Pa čekaj dok naprave ljudi kancelarije u Sava Centru :) Polako...

Mislis toranj? :D

+1

And when I said a few months ago that Split will become the number one airport in Croatia people mocked me.

can anyone explain how are the total passenger counts made?
we have departing / arriving / transit pax... how does all that combine into a total (1+1+1 = 3 or some other scheme?)...thanks in advance!

Isn't it weird that BEG published July' results only two days after the end of the month but it took 20 days to the same for June's figures?

Anon 9:37 AM.
Neznam dali ce da ''da naprave kancelarije u Sava Centru'' ili ne. Jedno je osnovno i tacno. Bez dolaska ivestitora, Beogradski aerodrome NEMA vise stotina miliona dolara da investira u buduci Hub Srbije. Moze da dogradjuje (krpi) parcijalno. Ponovo bez direktnog novca stranog investitora, koji mora da uvecava broj aviona, putnika i kargo saobracaja da bih vratio investirani novac sa profitom. To je ne samo istina. To je izvesno. Drzava I svak dobronameran to ne samo da zna. vec ce podrzavati. Doduse interesne grupe, koje ce gubiti pozicije, beneficije, nece se samnom saglasiti. U jednom nadam se da hoce. To je da bude srecna slava patrona vazduhoplovaca Svetog Ilije. Ta vest o proslavi ove strukovne (I porodicne)slave videosam na medijima i na netu. U velikoj nadi i zelji za razvojem Aerodroma Nikola Tesla. Zajedno sa Aerodromima Srbije. Sa zeljom da svi aerodrome Jugo istocne Evrope nastave razvoj I rast. Rodney & People of Good Will✈+ Kraljevo✈Sydney

Mysteriously weird

They haven't actually published it on their website.

Winter should also be strong. Air Serbia is increasing frequnecies to a hand full of destinations over the winter so it will be a contrast to last year's network cuts.

With 2,2 million passengers what Split can do this year they will have this year, they just have to gap 500.000 passengers. How can that happened in near future?

This year Zagreb will have some 200.000 more passengers. Very optimistically Split can do 250.000 more this year.

Now, with 50.000 more passengers, how long they need to gap 500.000. Also that is if Zagreb will stay on this grow after new terminal (and for sure massive coming of LCC), and if Split can have this huge grow in next 10 years what is very questionable.

if true, this is really crazy....i thought that they reached upper limits last year....

+100

Yeah but Zagreb has a cap unless OU starts building a true hub which I doubt will happen any time soon, if ever. BEG would have also stagnated at some point without a hub system.

Split on the other hand will keep growing as long as tourists keep on arriving. The airport's potential is much greater. However, the only limiting factor is the airport infrastructure. If Rhodes can handle roughly 4 million passengers then SPU can too. No one is saying it will happen tomorrow or next year but it could happen over the next five years.

I can not understand how you can say it is a good result?

- 5 new Air Serbia routes (just JFK is more than 10.000 seats per month)
- new Wizzair route (Baden-Baden), Ural (Moscow), LOT (Warshaw that terminate last July), Qeshm (Tehran).
- more frequencies and capacity (Air Serbia, Qatar, Lufthansa...)
- 2 more planes for Air Serbia (CRJ-900 and A330)
- other airports in region haD double digits increase in July (Zagreb, Split, Sarajevo, Skopje, Priština...)

How on earth is this a good result?

A good result because it was the busiest month in the airport's history... What more do you want.

P.S There is not Qeshm. They flew one flight in May.

From 2017 and new terminal there would be some newcomers even from China. But I am sure new terminal will open space for at least one LCC to base aircraft in Zagreb and some more LCC to come. You must know that LCC in Zagreb today have just symbolic present.

Just with real LCC newcomers there should be 500.000 more passengers in Zagreb in one year (remember BEG huge grow with Wizz based plane).

With more legacy carriers on top of LCC and more Croatia Airlines routes (and they plan to bring some regional jets from 2017, for sure part of that fleet will increase number of flights to ZAG) there could be even 800.000 more passengers in Zagreb in one year.

What about Yamal, do they fly or not?

But you must understand that with so many new routes and frequencies, and double digit grow in region BEG is slowing especially comparing to competition and that should have consequences in near future.

You are comparing apples and oranges. The competition was sleeping when Belgrade Airport was recording double digit growth or adding one million passengers per year. Comparing Skopje Airport, which just managed to handle over 100,000 passengers in one month with Belgrade Airport which is likely to reach 600,000 passengers in one month is August is funny. Hence of course Skopje will have larger growth because its starting point is much lower.

As for Yamal - no, it does not fly to Belgrade and never did.

due to latest rumors Split airport expanson will finally start this autmn

I bet if June was a positive month they would have been quick to tell us about it.

just my 2cents

My goodness who cares. You got the numbers on both months.

You would have been able to understand how it makes a good result if you had any education. As you have none, political activism is your only chance in life.

Amazingly weird. The weirdest mystery in the history of mankind. International courts should deal with this conspiracy of cosmic proportions.

Ne bi svi, ali polovina tih putnika je svakako koristila usluge Beogradskog aerodroma. Ostali su išli u Skoplje i Sofiju. Ali sada sa širenjem Ryanaira i Wizza u Nišu više nema potrebe za letenjem aa alezernativnih aerodroma. Čak sada i ljudi iz Bugarske koriste INI.

That is the point. Trend than was different then.

But competition get on the feet after huge BEG shock. And they took some of potential Belgrade passengers. Doesn't meter if that is Zagreb with new routes and carriers what is more transit passengers from other parts of exYu, and less passengers on ZAG-BEG route, or if it is SJJ with more P2P passengers or transit passengers via other hubs and less on SJJ-BEG route, or SKP with more P2P passengers and less via SKP-BEG route, or INI with more routes and less passengers via BEG, they all have bigger grow, and BEG grow is much slower.

For example ZAG had 30.800 more passengers in July and BEG 24.530 with much more new routes introduced. Since last August (12 months) BEG lost 72.000 passengers and ZAG gets 168.000 new passengers. See the difference in 240.000 passenger in last 12 months? So gap between ZAG and BEG is much smaller in last one year.

OT - Emirates flight EK521 Thiruvananthapuram - Dubai crash landed at DXB, airport closed. More info to follow.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a357/thezeke/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsd5716gg8.jpeg

And what happens with the difference when you add one more year? In last 24 months... You can not only put the results that you like and thats it. Maybe even better compare 3 last years what was the difference between Zagreb and Belgrade in summer 2013 and 2016?

You should check your facts again cause I checked from last August till this July Belgrade lost 38000 passengers I dont know where you get your numbers from but this is official site numbers.
Also let us compare the growt from 2010 to 2015:
Beg from 2.699.000 to 4.776.000
Zag from 2.071.000 to 2.588.000
Beg has 2.077.000 passengers more but Zag only 517.000 more...
More then a whole Split airport growt!

https://twitter.com/FlightAlerts777/status/760773882265604097

Serbian crew accounted for... DXB closed, DWC inundated...

^ Correct, this stupid anonymous is a hater. he just plain stupid that what he his just ignore him. he just sad thats all.

is* not his

So damn sad,thanks god everyone are safe,my hearth is bleeding for that b777,and its nothing unexpected Emirates is punishing their pilots to work way ovetime...

OT: Emirates EK521 crash landed at Dubai internation airport, All crew and passengers are safe. reason occured is look to be a mid-air collision. Everyone are well and safe just delay will take up 4 hours

@Alway Lftn

Curb your tone.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/EK521?src=hash

For trend and future of airport it is much more important what happens in last 12 months than in last 3, 5 or 7 years (not that this is not important, but for sure not even close to trend of last 12 months).

It is true that BEG lost "just" 38.000 passengers (I calculate it again), but still it is 206.000 passengers difference for Zagreb (+168.000 in same period). One should really think and react on that trend.

Yeah, the situation at the Split airport is insane! How they do it over summer, I don't know, I mean for such a small, undercapacitated airport, with such a lousy infrastructure, I tip my hat off to the airport stuff. Hopefully the rumors are true and the expansion really does start this fall. Zagreb needed it, but Split needs it even more.

Congratulations Belgrade!! Amazing!

Off course the last 12 months are more imprtant but that means that also last 3 months are more impartant and there is a plus of 33000, or last 7 months a minus of 1000.
You can always spin the numbers to work for some theory...
For me the overall picture is more important and that is that Beg is stagnating cause of no development of low cost airlines and to be honest I would prefere for belgrade to lose 500.000 passengers in next 12 months if it means 500.000 passengers for nis and morava... You may say I am a dreamer but 120.000 passengers in Nis this year and 300.000 in 2017 is more important than a loss of 30.000 for belgrade. The whole serbia needs to develope and I would really like for belgrade nis and morava to be like munich and memmingem and not budapest.
If people from serbia can go to budapest and timisoara for cheeper flights than they can go to nis of cacak...
Just my opinion.
Thanks for converation

But it is weird, you don't need to be sarcastic. Btw, they did publish it on their site as well. They probably finally gave the job to the people that know how to do it, not to people with fresh "diplomas" and no knowledge. Hope to keep it that way in the future.

It was not a mid-air collision.

Landing gear on the right hand side is said to have collapsed upon landing. The aircraft caught fire after pax evacuation. Its windy, dusty and 49C in Dubai. 13 flights diverted to DWC, 4 to SHJ, 2 in AAN, 1 in FJR, BAH and MCT. Pax will be bussed to DXB. Flights from MUC, FCO and BKK bound to DXB returned back to airport of departure.

The airport should re-open at 1700 DXB time, however aircraft will be instructed to hold 2h of fuel to hold and pressure is on to reopen at 2000 DXB time.

@ guess whoo

Please don't make comments on things your not familiar with. The accident is not crew related. The crew on that flight was returning from a 24h layover, and the flight time is under 4 hours.

For me the competition this year between BEG and SOF is very interesting.

@frishki :)

@JATBEGMEL

Thats correct! misunderstood however when the accident happened some stated it was mid-air collision. but now that the investigation was done. it tells now the true factor

just saying what i have heard,that is fact,this is not crew related crash,but many pilots were complaining.

Dirljivo je kako se ti razumes u IT sektor. Koliko li im je truda samo trebalo da nadju osobu koja to sama naucila boreci se u mracnim vilajetima web programiranja.

Anon 11.29

Yes but just because a new terminal opens doesn't mean airlines will rush to launch ZAG flights.
Also, since you mentioned BEG, then it's also worth noting that even if passenger numbers exploded, it was during this period that Jat almost went bankrupt since their yield plummeted. Same could happen to OU, especially now when it seems no one wants to buy them.

Furthermore, BEG numbers were primarily boosted by Wizz Air which launched flights and then opened a base.

The situation in Zagreb is a bit different since it has LJU to the north, OSI to the east and ZAD to the west. These are all potential threats that could one day become low-cost bases. If this happens then ZAG won't be able to compete price-wise; especially not if the old terminal is completely converted to a cargo terminal.

So I don't think we will see an additional 800.000 passengers in 2017. Also, every year people here tell us how Zagreb will handle between 500.000 and 1.000.000 new passengers starting from next year. This trend started shortly after Croatia became an EU member state.

Like I already said, ZAG will keep on growing but it has its limits. Coastal airports such as DBV, SPU or PUY have much more long-term potential.

You mean, congratulations Air Serbia ! All BEG growth is on the back of "the wings of Air Serbia"

Investigation hasn't finished, its just started.

@ guess who

Fatigue is the biggest problem in FZ, not EK. However, there have been crew dissatisfaction in flying hours, it goes both ways with some complaining theyre flying too much and some flying too little.

For sure LCC will come to ZAG. I think ZAG is the only airport with more than 2 million passengers not to have LCC base.

LCC did not come because there was no space for them. It is not about new and shiny terminal but fact that ZAG will have capacity for growing and for LCC which they did not have with old terminal.

So, trust me, you will see LCC in 2017 to base plane and that would be at least 500.000 on top of 200.000 more passengers ZAG already has each year.

There was no Serbian crew onboard. 1 from BiH, the other from Croatia.

If SOF manages to overtake BEG that would be a major failure for BEG.

Everything is a major failure for BEG for years for the 'experts' commenting here.

If Niš is the reason, OK, I agree. But it is not. Niš was not in in last 12 months (just few dosent passengers). And if that is true, what will happened when all those new routes will be open in INI. 200.000 passengers in next year. If that is prime problem, BEG is not in good position.

BEG is never in a good position according to the 'experts' who comment on this website. Even when it records its busiest month in history it is not in a good position.

You mean "the new wings of Europe", correct?

You don't need to be an expert on anything to realize that Sofia airport overtaking Belgrade airport is a failure of our management.

But even if an LCC comes to ZAG, what will become of OU? They simply can't compete with them and I fear they will end up like Jat. Even without a lowcost their performance is weak at best.

Also, was there no space at the old terminal? Lowcost carriers have their first flight between 05.00 and 06.00 meaning that they would leave before OU's first wave of departures. It also means that their other waves would have been either an hour before or after the rush-hour.

My guess is that the fees weren't as attractive.

Just quoting what the BEG CEO said in the above text.... in other words, by his own admission, growth at BEG airport is due to Air Serbia's network expansion and not because of any initiatives introduced or implemented by the management of BEG.

What a job ! just sit back and ride on the fortunes of the national carrier

Ofcourse it's not good. Why ? because they depend on 1 airline for all the results they have achieved.

If you strip out the performance of Air Serbia, what have the mgt of the airport actually delivered ?

Nada.

That says everything as to what sort of job BEG airport is doing

ExYu, is this brand new statement from BEG or the same one you quoted last week? It’s highly unlikely BEG will reach 5M figure since it would need double digit growth (10-12%) every month until the end of the year. Whoever is calculating these numbers at BEG is probably lacking some basic Math skills.

New statement released yesterday.

I think that they will overtake us unfortunately. They have 20 new routes starting in September (19 operated by FR and 1 by W6).

Come on guys you can't help it either way,that's the way things goes,see it from the nature's point of view. Serbia doesn't have the sea so BEG airport will never be a tourist mecca , let's say like ATH, and secondly Belgrade is just an ordinary eastern capital, so it will never be like Paris or Rome a winter weekend destination or a winter must see destination.

Thank you.

Ural Airlines ukida liniju za BEG od 24.augusta

No, there is no space. Let's presume LCC flights:

06:00 - 11:00
11:30 - 16:30*
17:00* - 22:00

or
07:00 - 12:00
12:30* - 17:30*
18:00 - 23:00

* = problem with slots

Why not in 2018 or 2019 or later? Government was able to pump out cash instead of needed expansion since Air Serbia came to town, and now that Air Serbia money flows to airport, there's even more cash for government to pump out. Why kill the good thing they got going?

Because, like it or not, the government is IMF's bitch and the IMF has ordered them to sell their share in the airport.

Of course 3 months is not enough to make any conclusions about trend. That is why nobody serous react in first few months of bad results. But one year for sure is something to be worried.

But even in last 3 months you can see that BEG if far behind competition.

Far behind? What planet are you on?! It has double the number of passengers to its closest competitor in ex-Yu.

Another one? That would not make BEG number better till end of the year.

Could you tell me which "other one". Are you referring to Swiss in Zagreb? Or Swiss in Sarajevo? All those Adria routes from Ljubljana? Or Wizz Air in Tuzla?

http://www.aviatica.rs/od-beograda-sankt-peterburga-tokom-zimskih-praznika/

Is this story true ?

It is not a bad thing that ASL dominates BEG. That way the most of the money stays in Serbia and contributes to Serbian economy. This is much better than supporting or even subsidizing Irish, English or Hungarian stockholders or feeding German national carrier. Serbia first!

It's a route which functioned for a few months yet you label it as "another one" while you are not vocal to point out Zagreb loosing Swiss of all airlines. Sarajevo loosing Swiss and Czech Airlines, the other one because they could not be bothered to stay open during the night, or you don't refer to Adria ending 3 routes just out of LJU, closing routes out of TIA too. Great to see how vocal you are only when Belgrade is concerned. Seek help.

Zagreb also lost TAP this year.

That is an unfair comment, Anon. 3.21. I was talking about knowledge, not experience, of few hundreds newly employees at BEG. The reason I put diplomas under quotation marks is that their quality is very questionable and the schools where there are acquired very obscure. The political loyalty is beyond question.

Ugh.. only for a month.

Yeah but they could work around this by being smart with their schedule. If they start with Memmingen or Bergamo which are both less than two hours, then their aircraft would return before 16.30.

You can not. Ban for new routes are:

07:15-09:00
12:30-14:30
16:30-18.00
20:30-21.15

LCC dosn't just Zagreb to take care of. It is more tha hart to designe time-table outside those corfue.

Problem with slots are between:

07:15-09:00
12:30-14:30
16:30-18:00
20:15-21:15

It is very hard for LCC to design time-table out of that time. Especially that they are not flying only to ZAG and have much bigger system to obey.

In last 3 years too many companies stop flights or reduce frequencies:

- TAP
- easyJet
- Alitalia
- Lufthansa
- Turkish
- Adria
- Wizz
- Germanwings
- FlyDubai
- Etihad Regional
- Swiss
- Ural

When I said behind it is about 200.000 deference in last 12 years in favor of Zagreb, and more than 100.000 in favor of Skopje and Podgorica, much more in favor of Sofia, Bucharest, Budapest, even Sarajevo and Podgorica had more passengers in time compare to Belgrade almost 40.000 minus ... those are Belgrade competition and this year they are all double digit plus in same time when Belgrade has minus.

Goodness. As I said seek professional medical help.

Interestingly enough, flydubai will be increasing BEG to four weekly this winter so you can take them off the list.

Sure, ok but it could have worked like this:

05.00 - 09.30
10.00 - 14.30

And even after this they could be quite flexible.
So in a way a lowcost carrier could have based a single aircraft at the airport if they really wanted to. Now, having a second one could have been trickier.

Zagreb is not as crowded as LHR or IST so I am sure they could have worked around it.

I mean, we are talking about a base here. Wizz Air or Ryanair could have launched flights without having a base.

1+1+2 = 4. (Transit = arriving + departing)

Nemjee, carrier does not like to open routes so early as 5:00 as that is not motivated to passengers. Even with that you have a problem letter on with slots.

The fact is that ZAIC did not want to put discounts as they don't have capacity for LCC. In same time they try to do the bring as many legacy carriers they can. And did make good job.

Pre trideset godina JAT-ova komercijalna delatnost i usluge (KDU) je bila smestena u Sava Centru, i Aviogenex je imao prostorije u prizemlju...Istorija se ponavlja, hehe...

Ovo su odlicne vesti za BEG .
Takodje je B92 pisao da je Fraport i jos nekoliko kompanija iz Arapskih Emirata i Kine zaintresovano ali nadam se da ce na kraju biti izabran pravi koncesionar.
INN-NS

Wizz Air has some flights between 05.00 and 06.00, not all but some. On days when slots would be an issue they could add a five o'clock departure. On other days a six am would be fine.

So in the end it did boil down to the airport management not wanting to have an LCC. The real question is if they refused to give discounts only for a hub or for regular flights as well? Given the limited number of low cost flights at ZAG I guess it's both.

Ko koga ovde laže? Smešni su vam komentari do bola. Sve pohvale Beogradu i Sarajevu na rekordnom broju putnika.

Ko koga ovde laže? Smešni su vam komentari do bola. Sve pohvale Beogradu i Sarajevu na rekordnom broju putnika.

SM: Couldn't agree more with your logic and math. Last week when I pointed at the logic and math, I was immediately branded as a hater. Like everyone here that doesn't follow the party line and agrees with the almighty. BEG and their management just keeps repeating numbers instead of making a quick reality check with simple math.

In my case I wasn't called anything. Math never lies and facts are facts.

Haha...good point! However, joking aside...Air Serbia is doing a good job. And Belgrade definitely has the potential to grow regardless with its emphasis on hub creation. Say what you waill, but the way they surpassed Sofia is impressive.
Now...It'd be nice if Air Serbia would introduce more connections to the Gulf and the Middle East. I don't know how that would be done, or if it's even possible. Maybe Kuwait, or Bahrein, possibly Amman,if not Doha and Dubai. On top of Abu Dhabi, which is easy due to Etihad connection.
Also, Belgrade has profited considerably from the situation in Ukraine and if instability in Turkey continues it might steal a portion of the pax traveling via Istanbul to Western Europe. Zagreb for instance is not even on the map in that respect.

Haha...good point! However, joking aside...Air Serbia is doing a good job. And Belgrade definitely has the potential to grow regardless with its emphasis on hub creation. Say what you waill, but the way they surpassed Sofia is impressive.
Now...It'd be nice if Air Serbia would introduce more connections to the Gulf and the Middle East. I don't know how that would be done, or if it's even possible. Maybe Kuwait, or Bahrein, possibly Amman,if not Doha and Dubai. On top of Abu Dhabi, which is easy due to Etihad connection.
Also, Belgrade has profited considerably from the situation in Ukraine and if instability in Turkey continues it might steal a portion of the pax traveling via Istanbul to Western Europe. Zagreb for instance is not even on the map in that respect.