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Adria Airways expands fleet

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Adria Airways will add a ninth Bombardier CRJ900 aircraft to its fleet, the second in just two months, but has delayed the introduction of the fifty-seat Saab 2000 turboprops. Arriving in Ljubljana today, the Slovenian carrier's latest CRJ900, registered S5-AFC, is eleven years old and had previously operated on behalf of Iberia Regional/Air Nostrum (EC-JYA). Adria has been steadily expanding its fleet, adding another CRJ900 just a month ago. As a result, the airline has been able to venture into the lucrative ACMI (aircraft, crew, maintenance and insurance lease) business and now has two CRJ900s wet-leased to Austrian Airlines, one CRJ700 to Luxair and one Airbus A319 to Eurowings.

On the other hand, Adria has delayed the introduction of the Saab 2000 aircraft, previously operated by its now defunct subsidiary Adria Airways Switzerland. The turboprops were to come into service at the end of the month and were to be deployed on all seven of the airline's new routes this summer, as well as a number of regional destinations. However, the carrier has now reassigned equipment for the planned new services to Sofia, Bucharest, Hamburg, Geneva, Dusseldorf, Dubrovnik and Brač, and will initially use the seventy-seat CRJ700 instead. Adria still plans to utilise the Saabs in the near future and is advertising vacancies for captain and first officer positions on the type. As a result, Adria will boast a fleet of up to 21 aircraft this summer, with three A319s, nine CRJ900s and three CRJ700s, in addition to the six Saab 2000s.

Meanwhile, the Slovenian carrier has introduced a new multi city option, allowing passengers to fly to one destination and return from another under the same ticket. “This year Adria Airways will record further growth, so I am especially pleased that in addition to the new destinations and the expansion of our fleet, we can present additional services that offer our passengers added value in their journeys. We are aiming to make our services even more passenger-friendly, and to ensure that flying with us is even more convenient and attractive”, the airline's Chief Commercial Officer, Christian Schneider, said. He added, "The multi city option is precisely this kind of service, since it means passengers can properly adapt their itinerary - they can arrive at the airport in one city, then continue their journey from an airport in another city. Our wide network of flights will satisfy even the most demanding travellers and business people whose travel plans involve several countries”.
March 08, 2018
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  1. Anonymous09:03

    Congratulations Adria. Growing fleet and route network. What more could one ask for.

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    1. Anonymous09:08

      Profit?

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    2. Anonymous09:09

      Let's not be too picky :D

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    3. Anonymous09:18

      They achieved profit too. In 2016 and we will see about 2017.

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    4. Anonymous09:24

      The method they achieved that profit shows it's not a healthy business.

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    5. Anonymous09:37

      Serious businesses publish net profit before and after any sales of assets. You would be quite surprised about the "profit" Adria made before any asset sale.

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    6. Anonymous10:26

      +1 last anon.

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    7. Anonymous11:13

      Does anyone know their financial results for last years. I mean do we know if it will be a profit?

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    8. Anonymous12:19

      It will be published in a few months.

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    9. Anonymous12:37

      Guys, it is a challenging business and Adria is a small player. They are not wasting tax payers' money, or so it seems, so we should not be concerned. They seem to be doing just fine.

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    10. IggyAUT18:40

      typical slovenian is talking negative and even it would be for some years better and better.... they would find something negative! as they are trying to pull everything down! the same thing about vlm airlines in MBX..... 80% talking just negative.... huh....

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    11. Anonymous17:50

      Dear Alfons. What should be slovenians chilled about? Their national carrier has been sold below the table for a few hundred K's, same as MBX. Would make more sense to give it to the local kindergarden to play with it.

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  2. Anonymous09:03

    They will have the largest fleet in ex-Yu!

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    1. Anonymous09:19

      They also have the youngest fleet in Ex-Yu. Although this will be affected when they add the old Saabs.

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    2. Anonymous09:44

      They still won't have the largest capacity in ex-yu.

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    3. Anonymous10:26

      True.

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    4. Anonymous12:43

      They have a fleet that is appropriate to keep them above the water. What is the point of having wide body with 254 seats when it flies twice a week during winter, gets busy during three summer months but overall generates loss.

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  3. Anonymous09:05

    So as expected the SAABs have been delayed. Anyone know the reson? Will they have to lease more aircraft so they can use the CRJ700s for the new routes?

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    1. Anonymous09:11

      Apparently some Turkish company bought tge Saabs.

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    2. Anonymous09:11

      *the

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    3. Anonymous09:15

      Adria will be leasing the planes, not buying them.

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    4. Anonymous09:20

      Why are they so interested in the old Saab metal anyway??

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    5. Anonymous09:32

      because they got it for free?

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    6. Anonymous09:47

      They are not free. Some other company bought them since the planes were put on sale by liquidators to cover Darwin debt.

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    7. Anonymous10:23

      They will get a good leasing deal and the plane is great for testing new markets due to low capacity and costs.

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    8. Anonymous11:20

      Why did they get rid of the CRJ200 then? It had the same capacity.

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    9. Anonymous11:28

      That decision was made before privatization and they were gas guzzlers.

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    10. Anonymous12:46

      These SAABs are not expensive to operate?

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  4. Anonymous09:07

    Good news for Adria.

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  5. Anonymous09:09

    Nice that they introduced the multi city option. Good idea.

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  6. Anonymous09:10

    good for the passengers that the SAAb's are delayed (and even better for LJU)

    P.S any numbers for Feb?

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    1. Anonymous09:12

      LJU numbers will be out next week.

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    2. Anonymous09:14

      It was around 100000pax

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    3. Anonymous09:26

      If they really managed to welcome 100.000 passengers then it would be crazy fantastic. February difference with ZAG would be only 70.000.

      LJU will have a great year and it keeps on getting closer and closer to 2 million.

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    4. Anonymous09:28

      "Only" 70.000? Hahahaha

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    5. Anonymous09:28

      Weil i personally dislike CRJs. The in-flight feeling is imho terrible and I much prefer the comfortable S20 although I flew on it only twice so far. I can't really scientifically explain why but in a CRJ I tend to feel every little turbulence much more than in a turboprop or Fokker 70/100 or Embrear.

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    6. Anonymous09:33

      Yes, it is only 70.000 when you compare the size of LJU, the city and country it serves.
      At least LJU is a market where airlines like easyJet and Wizz Air feel wellcome.

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    7. Anonymous09:46

      "...At least LJU is a market where airlines like easyJet and Wizz Air feel wellcome."

      Huh? Seriously?

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    8. Anonymous09:48

      Compared to Zagreb it is. LJU has much lower costs. Even Eurowings complained that ZAG is overpriced.

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    9. Anonymous10:04

      Sa 64 0000 na 70 000....to ja ne zovem smanjivanjem razlike vec njezinim povecanjem.

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    10. Anonymous10:07

      Janurja je bila večja razlika kot februarja... zato se razlika manjsa 90000 na 70000

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    11. Anonymous10:19

      We need to understand that Croatia has three big airports (Zagreb, Split and Dubrovnik) which means that the traffic is separated into three locations. Ljubljana and Belgrade are the only larger airports in Slovenia and Serbia and they should have more passangers than Zagreb.

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    12. Anonymous10:21

      Za isto vrijeme prosle godine, razlika je narasla za dodatnih 13 000 u sijecnju i 6 000 u veljaci.
      Prosle godine, u veljaci, razlika je bila 64 000.
      Ove godine, ako LJU dostigne 100 000, razlika bi bila 70 000.
      Koji dio ti je tu nejasan?

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    13. Anonymous10:22

      Uzevsi sijecanj i veljacu zajedno, razlika izmedju LJU i ZAG se uvecala za dodatnih 20 000 putnika.

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    14. Anonymous11:54

      Какве везе има Дубровник са Загребом? Да се ДБВ сутра затвори сигурно путници не би ишли чак у Загреб када су им Тиват, Сплит или Мостар знатно ближе.

      Исто као што би народ из Пуле ишао у друге, ближе аеродроме него у Загреб.

      Што се Србије тиче, имајући у виду да ће Ниш имати преко 400.000 путника мислим да је време да га озбиљно схватамо.

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    15. Anonymous12:07

      Kad se gleda broj putnika po drzavi, Hrvatska ima 2x vise putnika nego Srbija, i 4x vise nego Slovenija.

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    16. Anonymous12:14

      Opet mjeraci mjere nemjerljivo

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    17. Anonymous14:08

      Airport charges for Ljubljana, Zagreb and Belgrade are almost at the same level. The reason you hear airlines complaining about high charges is strategical, to strengthen their position during negotiations for new flights.

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  7. Anonymous09:10

    Well from a passenger perspective the delay of the Saabs is fantastic news.

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    1. Anonymous09:56

      I know Saabs are generally unpopular with people but I think they were good for Adria. It gave them the chance to test certain routes with small capacity and less risk.

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    2. Anonymous12:05

      From controllers* perspective, this is even more fantastic news :)

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  8. Anonymous09:11

    Multi City option is good :)

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    1. Anonymous09:13

      welcome to the modern world, JP

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    2. Anonymous09:26

      I have been using this option or "service" with other carriers for several years- I wasn't aware that this is a "new" service that JP will "introduce"

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    3. Anonymous09:29

      even OU had it ^^

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    4. Anonymous09:29

      Isnt this standard on every network airline??

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    5. Anonymous09:34

      nope, for example LOT is stil in middle age

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    6. Anonymous10:22

      Are these type of tickets more expensive?

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    7. Anonymous10:37

      nope they depend on the prize for the return flights for each destination. (a+b)/2

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    8. Anonymous10:39

      no, they are not.

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    9. Anonymous12:50

      Really surprised they did not have multi-city option! very strange. Hope that all legacy carriers will move to offering reasonably priced one way and multi city tickets.

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  9. Anonymous09:14

    The new German owners have managed to grow the airline year after year.

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    1. Anonymous09:16

      Didn't they shrink the airline significantly in the first year?

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    2. Anonymous10:21

      They did. But since then, they have made it bigger than before they came.

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    3. Anonymous14:26

      And they are still not making profit. Which ends in bankruptcy if the company is privat.

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    4. IggyAUT18:47

      here again for every solution some people have at least 2 problems.... huh

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  10. Anonymous09:21

    It will be interesting to see how their new routes perform.

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    1. Anonymous09:24

      the SOF and BWK are the best of all new routes.

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    2. Anonymous09:27

      sorces?

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    3. Anonymous09:38

      SOF is not a surprise, with the EU presidency going on... Will be interesting to see how it performs from 2nd half of 2018 onwards...

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    4. Anonymous09:39

      Are all the new routes year round except Dubrovnik and Brac?

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    5. Anonymous09:56

      So, what is the source for SOF and BWK performing the best out of the rest of the routes?

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    6. Anonymous10:32

      Da li netko zna da li je adria zadovoljna prodajom prema BWK?

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  11. Anonymous09:23

    Makes sense now why they have been hiring so many extra CRJ pilots

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  12. Anonymous10:01

    So that's why they have been delaying the Paderborn base announcement? They were supposed to base a Saab there.

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      Probably. Does that mean they will base a CRJ700 there? If they do that, they will have to lease planes for LJU.

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    2. Anonymous10:29

      Maybe the Paderborn base will open in June/July by which time they will have the Saabs.

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  13. Anonymous10:07

    Good news coming from Adria and Ljubljana lately.

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  14. Anonymous10:10

    Can the CR7 land in Brac?

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      Of course it can

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    2. Anonymous10:31

      23.i 30.o5 ljubljana brac with cr900

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    3. Anonymous12:19

      Nice!

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    4. Anonymous06:40

      This is what surprised me too. The CRJ requires very long runway lengths and I was sure Brac was a no-go. Maybe they will block 20 seats to bring it down to the Saab's capacity?

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  15. Anonymous10:16

    They have basically become a wet lease airline.

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    1. Anonymous10:21

      The word you are looking for there is ACMI operator ;)

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    2. Anonymous10:37

      the most lucrative business. Easy money.

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    3. Anonymous13:15

      It is, if you play it right, which Adria is not.

      Plus, doing ACMI while wet-leasing to cover your own flights is crazy. It might make sense financially (doubt it though), but completely destroys your image with customers, especially if you use rock-bottom low-cost Eastern Europe operators with museum fleets.

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    4. IggyAUT18:49

      and here we go again for each achievement there are at least two downs.... huh

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  16. Anonymous10:54

    Well done Adria.

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  17. Anonymous10:56

    Well done Adria

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  18. Anonymous11:06

    What a strategy! Lease planes and wet lease them out. For shortcuts on your own network, take ad hoc leased old planes from airlines with risky safety records.

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      +1

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    2. Anonymous12:52

      "For shortcuts on your own network, take ad hoc leased old planes from airlines with risky safety records." What are you referring to?

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    3. Anonymous20:41

      Carpatair!!!

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    4. Anonymous11:32

      Trade Air, Carpatair, Get Jet Airlines, ...

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  19. Anonymous11:11

    It will be interesting to see when will 4K decide to sell Adria. They said they will sell it for sure, just a question on when.

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    1. Anonymous11:21

      I think I read somewhere they usually sell the company within 5 years of purchase.

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      This will not last 5 years.

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  20. Anonymous11:12

    Will they extend the Carpatair lease. They are currently leasing an F100 from them if I'm not mistaken to maintain ops because they have leased out too many of their own planes.

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    1. Anonymous11:26

      My guess would be bcause they dont have pilots . There is always a (different) crj parked in LJU while these fly. So its not lack of aircraft.

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    2. Anonymous11:37

      That's likely. Especially because a lot of pilots and crew are in Austria, Germany and Luxembourg.

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    3. Anonymous18:56

      Pilot shortage...many left...will be interesting how they will manage summer season...

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  21. Anonymous11:17

    21 planes!!! Crazy growth from Adria and they do it so quietly without pomp.

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      They just keep expanding. Congratulations.

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    2. Anonymous11:54

      Destination and fleet wise :)

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    3. Anonymous12:05

      7 new routes in summer 2018 (8 if you include Kiev which was launched in winter), frequency increase on 7 routes, 2 new planes to the fleet + Saabs.

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    4. Anonymous12:17

      It's great but they didn't prepare on time. Insufficient crew numbers are now a problem.

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  22. Anonymous11:49

    2018 will be huge for Adria

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    1. Anonymous11:15

      Yes. Since a while they are waring bigger shoes than their feet are.

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  23. Anonymous12:18

    Good to see more CRJs being added.

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  24. Nemjee12:32

    OT

    I know they are not in the ex-YU but they are expanding aggressively in the region so I thought of sharing Aegean's results for the first two months of the year.

    Passengers carried: 1.488.052 (12%)
    LF: 81% (5% more)
    Flights: 12.418 (2%)

    A3 carried 164.527 more passengers in the first two months while having 281 more flights than last year.

    At the same time, ATH welcomed 2.484.414 passengers or 6.5% more than last year. International traffic rose by 14% while domestic shrank by 6%.

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  25. Anonymous12:38

    Why is there a WOW airlines plane parked at the terminal in LJU?

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      Maintenance.

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      I see; but its parked at the gate, is that normal?

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    3. Anonymous18:52

      Stand 6 docking system (finger) is out of order for a week(s) now....don´t know why Fraport didn`t repair it by now...

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  26. Anonymous12:41

    Overall it's going to be a great summer for Adria. They have the most CRJs in the fleet in this region I think.

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  27. Anonymous12:46

    Wow! I think LJU is gearing up and competing with ZAG. I mean, the current fleet is technically bigger than OU. I think LJU has a serious plan to grow.

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  28. Anonymous12:46

    Only if they could keep their existing schedule instead of cancelling and grouping flights. I can't imagine how they will be able to handle new routes from end of March onwards, if they are not able to operate existing routes. It is becoming more and more difficult to rely on Adria. It is too bad that there are no significant alternatives at LJU, but one has to look for ones at ZAG, VCE, TRS, etc.

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      Well there are three good alternatives :)

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    2. Anonymous06:39

      ...relatively inconvenient for a frequent business travel.

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  29. Anonymous14:06

    It will be interesting to see the financial hole when the party will be over.

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  30. JU520 BEGLAX16:21

    As announced by me a couple weeks ago, the Saab certificates etc sont be ready by SUTT. Anyway, anyone knows how their bbokings look to the new destinations?

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  31. Anonymous22:34

    Trade air is operating ACMI for Adria, flying from PRN and TIA to FRA and MUC with F100 since january

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      It's Carpatair more than Trade Air

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