Adria to wet-lease entire Airbus fleet in winter



Adria Airways will wet-lease all three of its Airbus A319 aircraft to Lufthansa this winter season. Furthermore, the airline has upped the number of Saab 2000 turboprops it will be leasing to Swiss International Air Lines for a total of three. The carrier has six of the Saab aircraft in its fleet, with one to be stationed at its new base in Paderborn and the other two to operate out of Ljubljana. The first Airbus to be leased to Lufthansa, registered S5-AAP, will commence operations on behalf of the German carrier next Monday from Frankfurt out of which it will maintain flights to Billund, Stuttgart and Geneva. Adria's remaining two A319s will be stationed in both Frankfurt and Munich until March of next year.

The three fifty-seat Saab 2000s wet-leased to Swiss will be exclusively operated between Zurich and Lugano. The route was previously maintained by Dash 8 equipment from Austrian Airlines. "Adria will take over Swiss’ wet-leased Zurich - Lugano route from Austrian for economic reasons. Adria will operate a fifty-seat Saab 2000 that is better suited to this domestic service than Austrian’s 76-seat Q400. Lugano will be the only destination that Adria serves for Swiss", the company said. In addition, Adria will continue to wet-lease one of its Bombardier CRJ700 aircraft to Luxembourg's national carrier Luxair. Such contracts have helped the carrier boost its revenue over the past year.

Adria said that about one-third of its flights during the first half of 2018 were wet-lease services. It flew close to 10.000 flights during the first six months of the year, up 2.4% on 2017, of which more than 3.300 were aircraft, crew, maintenance and insurance (ACMI) services. Adria's CEO, Holger Kowarsch, said recently, "In line with modern economic principles, the direction of growth is also in the ACMI segment, where Adria Airways sees its competitive advantage since we are a company that adapts well to changes in an increasingly demanding environment". He added, "Generally, our focus is on growth and, in line with the trends in the aviation industry, we are intensively checking the possibilities for the expansion of ACMI services".


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  1. Anonymous09:05

    :O

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  2. Anonymous09:05

    So that's why there is no Adria A319 operating from PRN this winter.

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    1. Anonymous11:43

      Yes I was surprised when I saw all of the Moscow flights operating with CRJ900 this winter. Not ideal since Aeroflot is launching Moscow - Ljubljana in a few weeks.

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    2. Anonymous11:47

      Maybe they will try with LED and give up on SVO

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    3. Anonymous15:49

      I think there is enough potential that both Aeroflot and Adria have daily flight. It would be interesting to get Pobeda to MBX from Domededovo. LED would be the same as Kiev added value for LJU and JP.

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  3. Anonymous09:05

    They may as well wet lease all the planes they have at the rate they are going.

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    1. Anonymous09:11

      LH group is helping Adris survive the winter season which is always problematic for them.

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    2. Anonymous11:43

      Or LH simply got a great deal on the planes.

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  4. Anonymous09:08

    And what abou Adria's flights? New flight combinations and cancellations?

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    1. Anonymous09:20

      We will see. Today could be a miracle. No flights cancelled yet.

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    2. Anonymous11:45

      So far so good for today.

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    3. Anonymous12:42

      Since yesterday it actually seems like at least 2 SAABs are in full operation from LJU. This could solve (or at least mitigate) their scheduling issues. No idea why it took so long to get SAABs up and running, but until yesterday they only made a handful of flights with them, which caused many delays and cancellations.

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  5. Nemjee09:08

    They obviously need new markets with some O&D demand. They should look at returning to Istanbul once the new airport opens. I am sure they could run a daily flight on the regional jet. LJU-IST is the busiest market and it can't be all TK connections.

    The era of Slovenia being served via VIE, MUC, FRA and ZRH is coming to its end. Only FRA is managing to keep up the volume. All others are either falling or stagnating.

    They should keep on (slowly) building their hub the same way airBaltic did it in a relatively limited market. Unlike Riga, Ljubljana has a much larger and richer catchment area.

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    1. Anonymous09:15

      I'm not sure IST can work. Adria can't compete against two (possibly three) daily TK flights next summer.

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    2. Nemjee09:17

      Well they could always strike a deal with TK for them to add a third daily in stead of TK. Heck, if TK reduces capacity on the future third daily, JP could add a fourth on the CRJ.

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    3. Anonymous09:23

      TK has an advantage because they carry so many transfers on the Ljubljana flights. But I find it very interesting that Adria is considering Dubai flights. I do wonder if it can work for them with so much competition.

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    4. Anonymous09:23

      with no food

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    5. Anonymous09:23

      Indirect competition I mean of course.

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    6. Anonymous09:40

      why would TK be interested in a deal with Adria? And who would like to fly a CRJ with Adria when you can have a much better service on TK for probably the same price?

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    7. Nemjee09:48

      Isn't Adria offering full service to Moscow? They could do the same for IST in order to remain competitive.

      As for TK, they could do it because it doesn't cost them much, or anything. They are keeping the cake for themselves while JP gets the crumbs. Similar to what they are doing with Aegean which tends to send the Q400 to IST while an hour later TK flies the same route with a mix of A333 and B77W.

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    8. Anonymous10:00

      Nobody can compete with TK on routes to/from IST. Especially not JP and alike.

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    9. Anonymous10:07

      Atlasjet and Pegasus can compete with them from Istanbul to Belgrade. It's not impossible.

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    10. Anonymous11:24

      Pegasus should look at LJU. They also carry connections like TK.

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    11. Anonymous11:49

      TK will increase LJU and ZAG flights next summer.

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    12. Anonymous11:49

      Yes, and they have good fares. I'm surprised they haven't considered either LJU or ZAG.

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    13. Nemjee13:54

      Maybe the market is not large enough for them to enter it with a high density B738?

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  6. Anonymous09:08

    This isn't sustainable long-term.

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    1. Anonymous15:18

      Adria is becoming something similar as GoJet, Endeavor Air or Express Jet in the US. It is only a question of time when they become fully integrated into the LH system.

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  7. Anonymous09:10

    They are leasing 6 planes to Lufthansa group and someone will still claim LH is not behind 4K.

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    1. Anonymous09:24

      Even if it is - so what? They are using JP as a wet leaser - Adria cannot maintain their home ops with this much ACMI ops. Currently, all of the planes are in the air, and they still have to cancel flights, join them together etc. So with three Airbuses gone, their home ops are going to crumble.

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    2. Anonymous09:28

      are you sure that all the 24 are up in the air. doubt it

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    3. Anonymous09:29

      They have 21 planes not 24.

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    4. Anonymous09:33

      "are you sure that all the 24 are up in the air. doubt it"

      I'm not counting in SAABs - if saabs fly an adria route, it automatically results in huge delays on all flights, because the timetables are calculated with 'jet times'.

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    5. Anonymous11:50

      Not 6 but 7. One CRJ will also be leased to Austrian Airlines.

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    6. with the same logic you can say that LH is behind EY because it took over AB planes after the collapse.
      somebody is losing serious money here. there is no logic for anybody from the business to be behind 4K

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  8. Anonymous09:12

    Will they get LH livery?

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    1. Anonymous09:14

      I doubt it. They are only going to be there during the winter.

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    2. Anonymous09:24

      Don't speak to soon. The Luxair wet lease has been extended to a full year.

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  9. Anonymous09:15

    I remember reading that Adria has extremely unfavorable leasing rates for the A319s. So it's good that they got rid of them and can get some money out of the,.

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  10. Anonymous09:16

    Why does Lufthansa need so many aircraft in winter? What's happening with their fleet.

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    1. Anonymous09:41

      They have a fleet shortage.
      http://atwonline.com/airline-financials/spohr-lufthansa-reduce-capacity-expansion-2018

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    2. Anonymous10:50

      LH is definitely in need of some planes (but rather A320, A321), however this deal has nothing to do with it as it will not help in any significant way and LH made some other deals/preparations recently to relax that need somewhat

      this deal is only made to move the collective bargaining for LGW ahead. LGW operates 20 leased dash 8 for EW. the union argues that LH is dependend on those 20 planes and will eventually settle at favorable conditions whereas LH insists that the costs have to get right (or there will be no future for LGW) LH needs the adria deal to show the union that there are real alternatives available if the union does not cut back their demands

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    3. Anonymous11:51

      Interesting anon 10.50. Thanks for the info.

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    4. In addition LH has to bridge the supply issues of the 320neos.

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    5. Nemjee13:55

      In my opinion, the longer those A320neos are out of service the better. It's by far the most uncomfortable aircraft in their fleet.

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    6. Anonymous09:54

      Nemjee
      If you have time and numbers can you post the best and worst adria routes?

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  11. Anonymous09:18

    So we are up 7 planes leased. A few more and half of the entire fleet will be wet leased.

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  12. Anonymous09:18

    JP is becoming an ACMI airline.

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    1. Anonymous10:00

      I thought it was a legacy carrier... At least to some people here...

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    2. Anonymous10:38

      It's exactly what 4k had in mind for Adria Switzerland before it went bust.

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  13. Anonymous09:21

    At some point they will have to close down their operations in LJU and transform to pure ACMI, or at least do a significant downsizing of ops out of LJU. Just this week the psg complaints were all over Slovenian media, they are loosing home psgs en masse.

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    1. Anonymous09:22

      It's unfortunate because it also impacts Ljubljana Airport's stats a lot.

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    2. Anonymous11:43

      Uvek postoji neki A319 na beogradskom aerodromu. Mi smo otvoreni za saradnju.

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    3. Anonymous15:23

      Aviation sector in EU is going through the same change as it did in the US a decade ago.

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  14. Anonymous09:25

    This will be a very lucrative winter for Adria, depending on how much they've leased the airbus for.

    It's more surprising that an airline as large as Lufthansa cannot source enough planes from its massive fleet to operate the winter schedule, which is typically a lot lighter, in house. Their labour unions can't be happy about that.

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    1. Anonymous09:36

      Agree that this is good for Adria. They don't need such large planes during winter. Better that they get some extra income then leave them sitting on the tarmac.

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    2. Anonymous10:12

      They probably don't need them in summer as well.

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    3. Anonymous11:49

      They need airbus in summer charter season in strong from LJU

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  15. Anonymous09:25

    And on top of everything 4K is apparently considering buying Montenegro Airlines and Croatia Airlines?

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    1. Anonymous09:26

      gosh stop it

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    2. Anonymous09:26

      well JP doesnt need more then 12 planes for their network

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    3. Anonymous09:30

      @ 9.26 stop what?

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    4. Anonymous10:59

      I do wonder if 4K plans to buy any more airlines.

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    5. Anonymous11:04

      If they are they will all be used simply to grow Adria's fleet for ACMI so I sure hope they don't.

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  16. Anonymous09:37

    Kudos to Adria, another fail for Air Serbia.

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    1. Anonymous09:39

      How on earth did you manage to get Air Serbia mixed up in this topic.

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    2. Anonymous09:48

      Adria has managed to lease 3 A319s while JU has not managed managed to lease the one they have on the market.

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    3. Anonymous10:14

      Yeah and we don't know if JP is actually making money from those LH leases.

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    4. Anonymous10:17

      You can see in their financial report from last year that they are making money from ACMIs.

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  17. Anonymous09:38

    What happened to Adria's A320? Did they sell it?

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  18. Anonymous09:45

    The Slovenian media is full of articles this week about JP's operational problems. They are taking a big hit to their reputation.

    https://siol.net/posel-danes/novice/ko-letite-z-adrio-se-pripravite-na-dodatne-postanke-479965

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    1. Anonymous09:53

      And all this when they have the most planes in their fleet ever.

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  19. Anonymous09:53

    Next year Adria gets another 3 CRJ900s so we might not see these A319s come back next year.

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  20. Anonymous09:58

    Adria is one of the strangest companies at the moment.

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    1. Anonymous10:09

      No they are not, be realistic. Legacy carrier who sold their brand, wet leases out new aircraft, replaces them with bottom feeder Eastern Europe old junk, cancels or combines flights on a daily basis. And then they try to get more scrapyard-material turboprops.

      Makes perfect sense.

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  21. Anonymous10:01

    The Saabs haven't proved very reliable for Adria since they entered the fleet. Maybe Swiss will have more luck.

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    1. Anonymous10:06

      It will still be Adria operating those aircraft, so reliability should stay on the same level. Not surprised about it though, 20+ year aircraft who have been stored for almost a year.

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    2. Anonymous10:07

      Ironically it is these Saabs that used to fly Lugano-Zurich for Swiss while they were over at Darwin Airline.

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    3. Anonymous10:57

      Polovina aerodroma Svajcarske je smesno malo i ne mogu veci avion da lete sa njih dok imaju bogatu klijentelu. Verovatno im je Q400 prevelik zimi.

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    4. Anonymous11:30

      and apparenty those Saabs belonged to cross air

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  22. Anonymous10:01

    Obviously someone signed shitty lease contracts in the past.

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    1. Anonymous10:04

      Of course, it was back in the day, where Adria "desperately" needed brand new Airbus aircraft from the factory. Obviously you can't buy used aircraft for such a prestigious airline, even though you made profit 1 year (~800k EUR) in the last 20 years.

      And only a year after delivery of those two aircraft, they got 50 mio EUR from the government to survive.

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    2. Anonymous10:52

      It's amazing that none of those former managers ever ended up at least under investigation by the authorities.

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  23. Anonymous10:09

    Poor Austrian being replaced by Adria within the Lufthansa group :D

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  24. bogovi aviobiznisa

    ko li samo pokriva sve te gubitke i čupa kosu?

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  25. Anonymous10:34

    Adria wil operate Austrian’s afternoon flight to PRN during the winter as well so the CRJ is also leased out

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    1. Same as last winter season.

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    2. Anonymous11:14

      So we are up to 8 aircraft wet leased over winter by Adria. Crazy.

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  26. Anonymous11:16

    So far:

    3 Airbus A319 - Lufthansa
    3 Saab 2000 - Swiss
    1 CRJ900 - Austrian
    1 CRJ700 - Luxair

    More to come.

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    1. Anonymous11:29

      Long term survival is going to be difficult. One has to keep coming up with these ACMI deals in order to keep the income.

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    2. Anonymous12:02

      2 CRJ900 - Austrian

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    3. Anonymous12:03

      wow so 9 planes.

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  27. Anonymous11:41

    Is Adria still leasing the Carpatair fokker?

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    1. Anonymous11:49

      No. It has been returned to the owner.

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    2. Anonymous11:52

      Thank you. Well it did good work for Adria, even though it was old.

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    3. Anonymous11:53

      We will probably see it back again next summer :D

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  28. Anonymous11:48

    The Saabs are completely unreliable.

    They have two Saabs operating in the fleet at the moment. Yesterday all flights operated by Saabs were delayed by over 1h and 20min.

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    1. Anonymous12:13

      The problem was already in the morning as there was heavy fog in Prague and Saabs are not CAT III equipped. From passenger perspective it's very bad to plan winter operations with non CAT III aircraft, as you may expects many delays and even diversions, while the competition is normally landing.

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    2. Anonymous12:23

      Interesting. That didn't even cross my mind but you are right. Hopefully the people at Adria realize that.

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    3. Anonymous14:29

      Hallo! What kind of bullshit are you talking about here. Thse SB20's except HB-IYI were flying CATIIIA with RVR 200m and DH50ft and CAT II on RVR 300m DH 100FT! So, to get it on the OPS SPECS of JP should not be a problem.

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    4. Anonymous14:56

      Well I can tell you because I was on board yesterday, RVR 200m in Prague was NO GO.

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    5. Anonymous16:50

      Cat III certification of a new type in operation takes a while, since operator has to make a lot of demonstration approaches, as well as train all the crews.

      The fact that Adria still treats Cat III as an astronaut-grade skill doesn't help to the situation.

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    6. Anonymous16:55

      Thanks for explanation. I hope they get CAT IIIa soon.

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  29. Anonymous11:52

    I just don't understand what was the point of that massive expansion this summer since it hasn't helped their bottom line. Half of the routes launched have been cancelled.

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    1. Anonymous14:34

      well what shoud they have done with the hundreds saabs?

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  30. Anonymous12:00

    People can criticize them but I think it is a smart decision. Well done on them managing to find companies in winter to wetlease such a large number of aircraft to. That isn't easy. Adria doesn't need more than 12/13 planes to maintain winter schedule and they will have that amount of aircraft while making money off the rest which will be leased, rather than sitting in Ljubljana, collecting dust and losing money.

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    1. Anonymous12:19

      +1 I think this is going to boost profit, which is every company's priority. LJU doesn't need these airplanes in the winter at the moment. If they also stop cancelling their flights now, this is a huge win - and I do believe they're working hard on it.

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    2. Anonymous16:51

      Well, first they need to make profit before they can boost it. And 2018 doesn't look like a profitable year...

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    3. Anonymous10:20

      Alright, make a profit then. My point was, this can only going to be good for the business.

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  31. Anonymous15:55

    cross the fingers for summer 2019 DUB,LED,BCNorMXP and to continue with DBV and BWK

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    1. Anonymous22:57

      Bwk is canceled

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    2. Anonymous07:38

      BWK was a disaster, it was suspended ahead of the initially set date.

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  32. Anonymous20:01

    Airbus 319 Adria airwaysa je prevelik i ekonomski nelogican za zimsku sezonu u Ljubljani.

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  33. Anonymous22:43

    Adria iznajmljuje svoje avione sama sebi da bi platila manji porez, registracija aviona je ista i sve ostalo.

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