Winter 2018/19 - Adria Airways


Adria Airways will make changes to its operations this coming winter season, which begins on Sunday, October 28. Out of the seven new routes the Slovenian carrier launched from its Ljubljana hub this summer, three will continue operating over the winter - Bucharest, Dusseldorf and Sofia. Adria will also open its third base, in the city of Paderborn, in north-western Germany, from which it will run flights to London Southend, Vienna and Zurich. Services to Switzerland's largest city will operate eleven times per week, while flights to London and Vienna will be maintained three and four times per week respectively. Furthermore, Adria will introduce an additional weekly service from both Pristina and Tirana to Frankfurt this winter.

On the other hand, the airline will make frequency cuts to several routes out of Ljubljana when compared to last winter season, during which it significantly increased its operations. Adria will reduce its offering to Pristina and Tirana by three weekly flights, Paris, Vienna and Warsaw by two weekly services, while Copenhagen will be reduced by one weekly flight for a total of four per week. The majority of the reductions will see the aforementioned routes served with the same number of frequencies as during the 2016/17 winter season. Commenting on its winter operations last month, the airline's Chief Commercial Officer, Christian Schneider, said, "From the winter season moving forward, I expect more stability, and our dedication will be aimed at restoring our customer’s confidence and improving the quality of services".

Adria has so far confirmed it will wet-lease one of its Airbus A319 aircraft to Germany's Lufthansa over the winter, while the wet-lease contract inked with Luxembourg's Luxair this summer for one Bombardier CRJ700 jet will be extended into the winter. The 2018/19 winter season runs until March 31, 2019. Please note that the changes listed below are preliminary and based on current availability in the GDS (Global Distribution System). Both frequencies and destinations are subject to change. Adria Airways is prone to making additional amendments to its scheduling mid-way through the season. EX-YU Aviation News will bring you Montenegro Airlines' winter season modifications over the coming two weeks. In the meantime, you can also review changes made by Air Serbia and Croatia Airlines.

Departing Ljubljana - UPDATED NOVEMBER 06

Destination  Frequency W17/18Frequency W18/19Change  Notes
Amsterdam77--
Brussels1212--
Copenhagen54 1-
Dusseldorf03 3-
Frankfurt2020--
Kiev30 3-
Moscow77--
Munich1414--
Paris75 2-
Podgorica77--
Prague44--
Pristina107 3-
Sarajevo77--
Skopje77 --
Sofia04 4-
Tirana107 3-
Vienna1412 2-
Warsaw50 5-
Zurich2020--


Departing Pristina

DestinationFrequency W17/18Frequency W18/19ChangeNotes
Frankfurt78▲ 1-
Ljubljana107 3-
Munich44--

Departing Tirana

DestinationFrequency W17/18Frequency W17/18ChangeNotes
Frankfurt34▲ 1-
Ljubljana107 3-
Munich33--

Departing Paderborn

DestinationFrequency W17/18Frequency W17/18ChangeNotes
London Southend03▲ 3starts OCT29
Vienna04▲ 4starts OCT29
Zurich011▲ 11starts OCT29



Comments

  1. Well we can conclude that their most successful new summer route was Sofia since it's being increased in winter compared to summer.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. SOF is usually busier in winter than in summer because of the ski season in Bansko and Pamporovo.

      Delete
  2. If they actually stick to this schedule. Adria has been going downhill big time. For a month every single day they are cancelling flights. Today they have already cancelled Hamburg, Dusseldorf and Kiev. Yesterday they cancelled Warsaw and Zurich. What a joke.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. +100 it's embarrassing

      Delete
    2. What's the reason for all the cancellations?

      Delete
    3. i wonder. those SABs are state of the art technology and Adria is well oiled machine. what could possibly go wrong?

      Delete
    4. lol well the Saabs are having tech issues but it's not just that. Staffing issues too.

      Delete
    5. Lack of crews, lack of airplanes, airplanes getting old and thus breaking down, problems at Adria Tehnika, the priority of keeping Austrian and Luxair happy over JPs own operation etc - depending on the day, one of the meantioned reasons is usually behind the cancellation. Plus there is a serious talk of a pilot strike in the near future.

      Delete
    6. Do they randomly pick which flights they are going to cancel on the day or is them some logical reason why those destinations are selected?

      Delete
    7. It probably depends on the staff rostering, aircraft availability and likely the load on the flight.

      Delete
    8. But why are people blaming ACMI all the time?! It is a done deal. Planes and crews are stationed in Vienna and Luxembourg... So Adria is having a problem with the rest of the business.

      Delete
    9. Zurich already cancelled for tomorrow. Well done Adria.

      Delete
    10. How do they reroute you when they cancel Kiev? Schedule for Kiev is terrible (arrival, departure times)

      Delete
    11. Probably to Germany (FRA) and then with Lufthansa to Kiev. Or maybe with Turkish via IST.

      Delete
    12. Today Adria joined Amsterdam/Brussels flight in a triangle. Things are getting bad.

      Delete
  3. Seems some regional routes were unrealistically operate too often last winter. Shame about Paris though.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Paris not being daily is a real shame. How many times does HOP fly to Ljubljana?

      Delete
    2. 6x per week in winter.

      Delete
    3. I can see only six flights in the system for Hop in 18/19 winter.

      Delete
  4. i noticed BRU is more frequent then AMS for both JP & OU. must be an EU shuttle

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. That and neither of them has competition of flights to Brussels, unlike to Amsterdam.

      Delete
    2. isnt Wizz flying to Brussels from LJU?

      Delete
    3. Yes you are right. I forgot about that. Although it is Charleroi.

      Delete
    4. You also forgot that Brussels Airlines flies from Brussels to Zagreb during the summer too :D

      Delete
    5. Brussels is also star alliance hub, so it makes sense. Although OU uses airbus on Amsterdam route and Dash on Brussels.

      Delete
    6. Adria used to have an agreement (I think still operating) with the slovenian government on the Brussels route. The government (taxpayers money) buying in advance a big amount (at ordinary full price) of tickets on all flights for burocrats, politicians etc. It's a big business.

      Delete
    7. At least now taxpayers don’t have to pay millions of EUR on top of the overpriced BRU tickets for politicians.

      Delete
  5. LOT obviously having an impact on JP on Warsaw route.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. We will see what happens to Moscow now when Aeroflot starts flying.

      Delete
    2. The only competitive advantage Adria had over LOT is that they flew their CRJs on the route and not turboprops. Now that has changed.

      Delete
  6. It's interesting how Turkish destroyed every ex-Yu airline on flights to IST. First Croatia, then Adria, then Air Serbia. None of them fly to IST anymore. Quite sad.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. They have destroyed much stronger airlines on flights to Istanbul. An example being Austrian Airlines and Swiss.

      Delete
    2. Da stvarno tužno. Aviokompanija koja leti na A320, ima na letovima od 2,5 sata IFE, toplu harnu i neograničeno piće izbacuje iz posla one koji nude šikaniranje i čašu vode. Plačem

      Delete
  7. Italy and Spain notably missing from their network.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I would add Scandinavia and the UK too.

      Delete
  8. Are they getting subsidized on flights from Paderborn?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. no, they do not get any direct compensation for flying from PAD.

      Delete
    2. Coomarketing? :)

      Delete
  9. This could affect LJU's number quite a bit.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. dont worry the fanboys will remind you of the London flights ^^

      Delete
  10. it makes you wonder how many aircratfs are resting for the winter?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. They are trying to wet lease a lot of aircraft this winter.

      Delete
    2. "a lot" - as in 3 to 5.

      Delete
    3. 5 aircraft is not a small number for airline primarily operating scheduled flights.

      Delete
  11. Are there any other frequency changes planned in LJU this winter?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Aeroflot +7, easyjet +3. Not sure about others.

      Delete
    2. Transavia is +2

      Delete
  12. I would have to conclude that their summer expansion wasn't overly successful seeing as they've kept less then 50% of the routes they launched.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Out of all of them I wouldn't have expected Sofia to be the most successful.

      Delete
    2. July growth 0.4% August 3%

      Delete
    3. Any estimate for September?

      Delete
    4. Unless foreign airlines performed well it will be very small growth since Adria has been cancelling flights like crazy.

      Delete
    5. It's not as if anyone would fly to BWK or DBV in winter.

      Delete
  13. wow PAD-ZRH 11 weekly

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. And I assume it's a high yielding route too.

      Delete
    2. have you checked the times? it has to be at least 10 times per week because it is targeted at people need to spend a normal working day in ZRH but do not want to waste a day for travel;
      flying less than double daily would put them back to touristic passengers, and that would be rather difficult, considering the local market
      no matter how much they charge, many companies would prefer them over LH because any LH connection would take at least 3.5 hours longer

      Delete
  14. I’m still not sold to this multi-hub system. Can’t see how it improves their balance sheets.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. It works if you are getting paid to operate from those bases. Remember how they said they lost a lot of money last year because they no longer flew from Lodz from which they were subsidized.

      Delete
    2. they have only a single hub. there is no hub operation in any of their bases beside LJU. it is only the giants (AF-KLM, IAG, LH) who run multiple hubs

      they did not operate a hub in Poland either, they where mainly feeding star alliance hubs from there

      Delete
  15. Perhaps they should consider some new regional routes with the Saabs that could bring them transfer passengers like Banja Luka and Nis. In summer they could consider Tivat too.

    ReplyDelete
  16. It would be nice to have better frequencies to CPH, for better connections to Scandinavia.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Does SAS codeshare on Copenhagen route?

      Delete
    2. Yes they do.

      Delete
  17. I hope they finally add (from summer 2019) Rome, since Ryan has cancelled its Trieste Rome route, and now there is only Alitalia.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. It could work with a Saab.

      Delete
    2. Rynair still flies to Rome, it's just that now they only fly in summer schedule

      Delete
    3. Where did you get that info? Source?

      Delete
  18. I am more keen to know whether JP will introduce some new lines on summer 2019? It was about BCN or MAD and even Rome.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Let them get past winter first before we start thinking about summer.

      Delete
  19. I'm curious to know which routes are -economically- (bringing money and not loosing it) profitable?
    Any real data available?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Airlines usually don't publish that sort of info :D

      Delete
    2. except if you have Krcko as CEO :D

      Delete
    3. Haha true. The "all are routes are unprofitable in winter" statement.

      Delete
  20. Much better than a few years ago but still room for improvement.

    ReplyDelete
  21. For a market the size of Slovenia, the schedule is more then good.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. If you remove flights to hubs where LH Group airlines are located (FRA, MUC, ZRH, VIE and BRU), remaining schedule does not look impressive. But that's the same fate of other small *A feeders in Europe.

      Delete
    2. Well, apparently it isn´t, given the loss.

      Delete
    3. JP also tries to be a regional player-nobody needs that many planes for only 2 million people

      Delete
  22. Surprised that JP can't manage a daily to CDG.

    ReplyDelete
  23. These regional cuts are good news for Croatia Airlines.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I fail to see how since it's not as if OU has an impressive regional network either.

      Delete
  24. Most of the ´experts´ who work in Adria are ex Darwin employees - and it seems they hugely overestimated JPs ACMI potential. Given their huge financial hole, the only logical thing would be to do a huge cut to their flights from LJU and focus on wet lease - unless there is no demand for JPs acmi services (other than what they do for LH).

    I will be immensely surprised if they survive the winter in their current form.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. When an airline starts cutting down their scheduled flights and start focusing mostly on ACMI you know the end is near.

      Delete
    2. Well, JP was (in the past decade) never profitable - so the end has always been near if it hadn´t been for the state. Now the state is gone, so put two and two together.

      Delete
    3. "the end is near" as for Avion Express, Flybe or Air Nostrum/CityJet?

      Delete
    4. @at 12:23

      Well, JP had a financial loss of 6 million euros. A private company needs to make money in order to survive. So as I wrote, in absence of huge restructuring of the company (let's say that the LH conspiracy theory is real, and they get a huge wet lease deal with LH Group) the company is going bankrupt in a matter of months.

      Delete
    5. Why such negativity ? According to similar assumptions JP should go bancrupt many times now. You don't know anything about their finances, except the loss from 2017. We are in 2018 now dude.

      Delete
    6. They are a private company now, so state aid is not an option. Last year they were saved by money from Darwin.

      Delete
  25. It would be interesting to see if they will be using Saabs on more routes this winter.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. And if they will keep leasing the Fokker from Carpatair.

      Delete
    2. I think they stopped leasing it some time ago, but I'm not sure.

      Delete
  26. WIll they extend the wet lease of their plane to Austrian?

    ReplyDelete
  27. Schedule is pretty ok in my opinion

    ReplyDelete
  28. I just hope they sort out their fleet issue so we don't have so many cancellations. People are getting really annoyed by it and won't fly with them again.

    ReplyDelete
  29. Shame they gave up on London from both LJU and PRN without putting up a fight against Easy/Wizz.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. It would have been a futile fight. Better focus you resources elsewhere. Wizz and easy are just too strong.

      Delete
  30. They seem do be doing well against Transavia even though Transavia is increasing frequencies to Ljubljana this year.

    ReplyDelete
  31. Is it just me or does it look like they will be leasing out a lot of planes again? Because they will have so many extra aircraft this year compared to last but the growth is very limited.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. They will try to lease many planes. But even though they have extra aircraft they still don't have extra staff.

      Delete
  32. Seems like they were a bit lost and confused.

    ReplyDelete
  33. Next they will most probably announce the opening of Bern base. We will see.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. lots of people are claiming that. but just because skyworks failed in Belp with some Saab, it does not make Adria very likely to succeed there with some old Saab and without any marketing skills.

      I would not be surprised if the airport would refuse to offer any significant "incentives" to any newcomer, but would give very slight discounts for new lines just enough for helvetic to start operating two new lines, and everybody would be happy (including Adria because it saved them a lot of money and problems)

      Delete
  34. Very nice crew! :))

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. And more importantly very expensive tickets for a hybrid airline!

      Delete
  35. A bit disappointing. Yes it's great they added a few frequencies from PRN, TIA and the PAD base but I was hoping for a more aggressive network especially since they have excess aircraft.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. We all hoped for that :/ i really hoped for LED

      Delete
    2. both PRN and TIA are minus 2 frequencies ...

      Delete
  36. Nice that they are keeping Moscow and Amsterdam at daily. Copenhagen should be the same.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. If CPH was performing well they wouldn't have reverted frequencies back to the way they were a few years ago. So no point to fly daily and loose money.

      Delete
  37. What about Rome and Milan? There must be huge demand between Slovenia and Italy.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Why would someone fly to Milan if you can reach it by car in 4h (overspeeding a bit, but nothing dramatic). Only way to make this route rentable is if there would be a wide range of connecting flights available, but thats not gonna be the case. Same with Rome, rentable only if connections on AZ.

      Delete
  38. 69 weekly flights to LH's hubs o.O why don't LH just take JP over and finish with it

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. For sure this would be the best solution for passengers. No more delays, cancellactions and old/unreliable planes. LH (Cityline) or EW would handle business differently and cheaper.

      Delete
    2. They already have! Queue LH = 4K conspiracies :D

      Delete
    3. Because of EU monopoly headaches. It's easier through 4k.

      Delete
    4. @13:32

      Aha, so the tipping point for the EU in its quest to curb the supposed LH monopoly is Adria with it's fleet of 0 owned airplanes?

      Delete
    5. If you don't consider the Saabs, Eurowings and LH regional have on average older fleet than Adria. Both EW and LH Regional are taking over the oldest aircraft from the LH family.

      Delete
    6. There would be no monopoly concerns simce none of the LH group airlines fly to Ljubljana.

      Delete
  39. They are on the right track. Let's hope they keep reinforcing Ljubljana as a hub.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. How in the world are they on right track??? They have drilled a 6 milliojn euro hole in the finances.

      Delete
    2. By decreasing frequencies on routes which aren't profitable and increasing it on those which are and by launching a new base. If they kept doing everything the way they were before, wouldn't they keep making a loss?

      Delete
    3. Suuuure, and the difference between profit and loss was a couple of winter frequencies? During the last winter season JP was saved by the money infusion from Darwin. This year there is no money left - and JP needs cash every winter, otherwise they go bankrupt.

      Delete
  40. Admin: When you say Sofia will be increased to 4 weekly, when is that? I checked their website and it's still 3.
    I can't believe that Bucharest is reduced from 4 to 2!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. It remains three per week, as indicated in the table. Oversight in the text.

      Delete
    2. Thanks a lot.

      Delete
  41. Sorry but I was expecting much much more from Adria this winter. How disappointing.

    ReplyDelete
  42. Rumour is Adria owes a substantial amount of money to the LJU and Petrol. This might end up in tears very soon...

    ReplyDelete
  43. "More challenges are now standing in front of the companies. So far, Monarch, Air Berlin, and Primera have gone bankrupt. In the next twelve months, it is likely that at least four medium-sized European airlines will go bankrupt, analysts claim."

    https://airlinerwatch.com/more-airlines-might-go-bankrupt-in-europe-in-the-next-twelve-months/

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. My next guess for bankrupt airlines is:

      Volotea, Mistral Air, Montenegro Airlines, Ellinair, Windrose Aviation, bmi regional

      Delete
    2. I hope I'm wrong, but this is the behinning of the end ...

      Delete

Post a Comment

EX-YU Aviation News does not tolerate insults, excessive swearing, racist, homophobic or any other chauvinist remarks or provocative posts with the intention of creating further arguments. A full list of comment guidelines can be found here. Thank you for your cooperation.