Adria to suspend Moscow and Dusseldorf flights


Adria Airways will discontinue flights from Ljubljana to Moscow and Dusseldorf as of next month. Services to the Russian capital will end just months after Aeroflot commenced operations between the two cities, while flights to Dusseldorf will be shelved ten months following their launch. The Slovenian carrier noted that both destinations will be accessible to its passengers through codeshare agreements with Aeroflot and Lufthansa, which will come into effect at the start of the 2019 summer season, in late March. "Adria Airways will further optimise its network of flights in such a way so as to respond to the needs of its passengers, while at the same time improving connectivity on existing services", the company said in statement.

Adria will operate its final service between Ljubljana and Moscow's Sheremetyevo Airport on February 16. The airline has been maintaining daily flights between the two cities this winter season. On the other hand, Aeroflot introduced daily services between the two capitals on October 25 of last year with the Superjet SJJ100 jet. Adria quickly responded to the competition by including 23 kilograms of checked-in luggage free of charge on flights to and from Moscow for its lowest "Basic" fare, which usually allows only one free carry-on item. However, Adria conceded that since Aeroflot commenced flights to Ljubljana, its passenger numbers took a hit, with Russian nationals preferring to fly with their own national carrier. As of late March. Adria will conclude a codeshare agreement with its competitor on the route.

Services to Dusseldorf, which were maintained three times per week this winter, will be discontinued as of February 7. The route was launched in late April along with six other new destinations, all but one of which have since been discontinued. Low cost carrier Eurowings planned on launching three weekly services between Dusseldorf and the Slovenian city last January, however, these never materialised. Adria will now offer codeshare flights to the capital of North Rhine-Westphalia via Munich and Frankfurt through Lufthansa. The Slovenian carrier said it will increase frequencies between Ljubljana and Munich next summer from double daily to nineteen weekly, while services between Pristina and Frankfurt will see an additional weekly service for a total of eight per week.

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  1. wow that's 10 weekly flights gone

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    1. They will compensate it somewhat with 5 extra flights to Munich from the summer.

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    2. and from 2nd March additional to flights to VIE (from 12 weekly to 14 weekly)

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    3. So basically shifting frequencies away from their own hub to that of their Star Alliance overlords.

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    4. Poleti naj bi spet začeli letet v SVO

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    5. ^ No flights by Adria metal from summer. They will offer tickets through Aeroflot codeshare which starts in summer.

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    6. https://www.rtvslo.si/zivljenjski-slog/ture-avanture/adria-airways-ukinja-neposredni-letalski-povezavi-z-moskvo-in-duesseldorfom/478263

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    7. ^ Again it is being "restarted" through codeshare with SU. No JP metal on this route. All Adria flights to Moscow for next summer have been removed from the system.

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  2. It looks like they really do not know what they are doing...

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  3. I knew Aeroflot would be a tough one to compete against but I didn't expect Adria to cave in just 3 months after SU started flights.

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    1. They must have really taken away a lot of passengers for them to do this.

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    2. Seems like passengers preferred the SJJ100 to the CRJ900 after all ;)

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    3. We might see SU upgrade to 2 daily or deploy A330.

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    4. They might upgrade to ten weekly or double daily eventually.

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    5. Can't compete with SU's network across Russia. A lot of people don't stop their travel in Moscow...

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    6. Not only Russia, also to the Far East!

      Mihael

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    7. Viva Sukhoi SSJ!!!

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  4. "The route was launched in late April along with six other new destinations, all of which have since been discontinued."

    Sad.

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    1. The expansion was a complete and utter failure.

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    2. This is actually not true, I believe that Sofia is still operating.

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    3. It says all BUT ONE of which have since been discontinued, in the text.
      That one is Sofia.

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    4. Not true. The low cost heaven survived!

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    5. SOF is bookable in summer, yes. Same schedule, same frequencies.

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    6. I am still shocked SOF made it....?

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    7. True dat, never underestimate a potential of a new route. But JP was always sure that it Sofia will work out. Remember this?

      https://www.exyuaviation.com/2009/03/adria-cancels-new-service.html

      10 years later, they have succeeded.

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  5. Zasto li nisam iznenadjen?

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  6. It seems they gave up on those Sukhois

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    1. Hopefully yes!

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    2. So so, Adria with its new shiny Airbus lost a route to an aircraft that is constantly 'grounded'??
      xoxo

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  7. I don't get it. They order 15 planes and in the meantime, their network is shrinking..
    Makes me wonder if Slovenia needs a flag carrier or simply substitute it with W6, similar to Macedonia.

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    1. imho the order with 15 planes is just a PR

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    2. As things stand, Slovenia doesn't even need an airport

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    3. Slovenia definitely needs an airport (but just one).

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    4. Haha, how silly comments. Slovenia doesnt need an airport?

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    5. Yes we dont need an airport. I have friends that can drive even to Rome or Vienna if the flight price is 20 euros less, even if it is without baggage included. They dont calculate in some cases even fuel price and parking, forget about the value of time and sense of convenience.

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  8. Moscow used to be one of their better performers. This is really unfortunate.

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    1. It did. For years Adria’s most profitable destinations were Frankfurt, Zurich, Moscow and Brussels.

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    2. Yes, Moscow flights were always full. What happened?

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    3. Aeroflot happened.

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    4. Russians prefer to fly on Aeroflot, which also provides better connections to other parts pf Russia and Asia.

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  9. Maybe they would have better luck if they launched St Petersburg?

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    1. Moscow's all three airports are busier than St Petersburg single airport.
      There is just no comparison between the two cities.

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  10. I think it's safe to say that Adria's dream of creating an east-west hub model has come to an end.

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    1. I think it's also safe to say that we won't be seeing those new routes launched this summer like they promised - Italy, Spain, Sweden...

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    2. I think they have been promising those routes (Spain, Scandinavia and Italy) for years now.

      Literally the same story over and over again (+ imminent flights to the gulf).

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    3. They have been promising Italy and Spain for a long time..not just Adria, but Ljubljana airport..

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    4. Hub model is dead, except for long haul.

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    5. Hub model will always exist for secondary cities without enough demand for direct connections. Aberdeen-Skopje will always be through a hub or hubs.

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  11. In times where JU is currently focusing on charters, OU on Dalmatia, YM on Germany, why doesn't JP try long-haul from all Balkan capitals something like DY?
    Lease a couple of A321LR and launch: LJU-JFK, ZAG-BOS, BEG-YYZ, etc.

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    1. Apart from it being extremely expensive and unprofitable, Adria could not get permits to fly from any non-EU Balkan capital to the US.

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    2. I don't think an A321LR could make it from BEG to YYZ. Also why should the government allow JP to launch long-haul flights from BEG when there is JU?

      I think JP will keep on struggling as small, regional European carriers tend to disappear over time.

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    3. And how can you lease A321LR which was produces in just 3 examples till now?

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    4. The only way to compete with in the market is to get rid of the turboprops or smaller aircraft.
      Look what happened with OS.
      LO also got rid of their Amazon E145.
      RO are struggling a lot with their ageing ATR42 - deploy them where there is no LCC presence.
      IB uses turboprops in extremely regional airports with no LCC e.g. Pamplona

      And well, Saab 2000 is really not the best choice. With 50 seats you are going nowhere

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    5. Listing DY as a good example. Have you read the news lately?

      As said above, A321LR has a significant backlog and not that JP could afford it anyway.

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    6. DY is not actually making money on their long haul operations, so they're maybe not a good example. When it comes to A321LR, three has been produced, and all three will be leased to Scandinavian, to complement their long haul services.

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  12. 4K - if you don't know what you are doing just leave already!

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    1. They will, just wait for the bankruptcy note in couple of months.

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  13. Still waiting to see what will happen with the recapitalisation and those Sukhois. Will they be cancelled like their routes?

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  14. Time for JP to launch KRR on the CRJ!

    Jokes aside, when did JP launch SVO? Seems like they flew the route for ages now.

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  15. Maybe time to start flying out of Maribor if LJU routes aren't working out.

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    1. Yes, as MBX was always a proven success for JP.

      MBX is dead and has been for decades. The end.

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  16. Great start of the year for LJU. Now we can be certain that this year, the airport will have a negative growth per whole year. Easyjet will stop flying Berlin after summer is over, because the whole Berlin base is very unprofitable for them. We can assume that Adria in the state it is now, won't launch anything new this summer, so over all it will just be capacity cut compared to last year on their part. The only new addition is BA with 1 and a half month of flights and Aeroflot, that will basically just replace the Adria route. We're going back to 2017 numbers in terms of pax on LJU.

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    1. Does anyone knows how easyjet performs on LJU - Berlin route?

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    2. Flown last week friday and monday. Some 80% to 90% full.

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  17. Together with these cancellations Adria's seat capacity will drop 10.9% in 2019. Interesting times for Ljubljana Airport.

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  18. Adria can not compete with other airlines on ANY destination. Even monopoly routes are not profitable for them.

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    1. AMS seems to be doing fine for both Adria and Transavia, same with CDG, but it is true they have a code share agreement with both KLM and AF

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  19. I think the only way JP can survive (and I mean survive realistically, being ran as a sensible airline and as a sound busines) is as a small member of LH group, some kind if LH regional/cityline, as a feeder of *A hubsb ie MUC, FRA, ZRH, VIE and BRU. Other than those, exYu capitals would probably also work, as well as Paris and Amsterdam (although AF and KL could probably ruin JP on those routes if they wanted to).

    Anything other than this is probably just fantasy.

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    1. I think Adria should be part of Air Dolomiti and connect MUC and FRA with LJU and other yugo cities where LH is not fling to

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    2. * alliance is a "golden" cage for ex-Yu airlines. If there was any vision Adria/Croatia should have ditched them a long time ago - abandon this ridiculous feeder policy and become what their markets are in daire need of and can sustain - a low cost leisure airline. They could have been a some sort of ex-YU Volotea by now.

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    3. It is a golden cage, but they can stay alive in the cage. Could they really survive with the model you are suggesting? Could they make money that way? Because I'm sure LH group would kill them on routes to their hubs.

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    4. Yes, it's too late now, but there's no perspective in *A. Their pax numbers are constantly falling, their customers seek cheaper p2p connections from neighbouring countries, and the whole ex-YU is leisure and VFR market. It's their own fault why they have become too dependent on *A, LH.

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  20. One has to wonder if this was bound to happen and if SU only acted as a catalyst.

    01->07.2017 - 29.256 passengers
    01->07.2018 - 27.587 passengers

    Numbers were already falling, especially during summer months. Adria seems to be a total mess of an airline and I think SU taking over this route from them is a good thing for the market.

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  21. They have been flying to Moscow for over 15 years!!

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    1. Coming to an end soon, just like the rest of Adria

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  22. This is route number four and five they have suspended this winter. Remember that this winter season they also operated Bucharest, Kiev and Warsaw which were quietly cut from the network in November.

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    1. WAW was a shock to me, it's Star Alliance hub and LO does really well in ex-YU!

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    2. Well that was the main problem - LO.

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    3. I never understood this. Shouldn't Star Alliance member cooperate more and not compete against each other on the same routes if the market is limited?

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  23. Oh doesn't matter. Good thing we have flights from Paderborn instead.

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  24. wow Düsseldorf is Gastarbeiter central, you would have thought there would be enough transfer pax

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    1. Flights were, unfortunately, quite empty for JP.

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  25. I wonder how many people they have had to rebook.

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    1. Hullo, now waiting for my money to return to book with Aeroflot for a March trip. Bought the Adria tickets just a week ago

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    2. I heard rumors that passengers, whose flights got cancelled last year, still haven't recieved the money.

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    3. I think the rule is that if you booked and payed the Adria flight they must rebook you to another StarAlliance partner if you don't like a modified flight timing: money back. Am I right?

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    4. Have a look on Twitter, people waiting 6+ months for compensation. 1 mio debt to Slovenian ATC. But CAA says JP is solvent, so all is well!

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    5. My flight was compensated in November, but I was waiting 340 days for compensation. :-)

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    6. I had a ticket bought on JP web page. Due to JP schedule change decided not to travel from LJU. The whole amount of money returned to my credit card in less than 48 hours. Competition is a different story. It takes months also at OU. The only one that did it in a month was JU.

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    7. Compensation :)

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  26. If you ask me, it's better to get other carriers doing their job correctly from LJU to major hubs. Also ticket prices are more affordable with them.

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    1. Actually, I think that would be best from the passengers point of view. At least they could provide reliable and frequent service with many connections from their hubs. Just last week a colleague had a flight from PRG to LJU and they were instead sent PRG-TGD-LJU with a long layover. What a joke!

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    2. PRG to LJU via TGD? Is it a joke? Why?

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    3. Same as SJJ to LJU via PRN.

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    4. Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. She had a flight PRG-LJU with JP which got cancelled (like it has been happening a lot in the last few months) so they were rerouted via TGD.

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  27. Another proof that JP is just a waste of money and there is no real market for them, especially if they have to compete with another carrier. Will see how AMS sustains with this schedule and Transavia competition. Good for them that LH keps them alive but probably this deal is not cheap for JP. LJU has a market for the largest cities/airports in Europe, CDG LON AMS IST SVO is covered by foreign airlines already, ZRH FRA VIE MUC BRU could be taken over by the LH group. But LH probably leaves them as their operation should be cheaper then if it would been flown with LX LH OS. They probably dont share profits, but LH group might gets part of code share seats for free.
    Moscow indeed was one of their better destinations, but against the SU product they had no chance. Another income factor less for them, the airline is shrinking and shrinking. Guess the 15 Suchois will end up for Leases too, just a question which airlines in Europe want them and how their performance will be.

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    1. You are a genius. You should have been sitting in Davos today and advising world leaders.

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    2. Everyone knows Transavia can't compete with JP. Have you seen them offering such exclusive flights as AMS via CDG as JP does?

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  28. If it means this is a way to get their finances in order then I support the move.

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    1. Adria...finances...4K...
      hahahaha

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  29. Cool. I booked the trip to Ljubljana with Adria last week only to be notified by e-mail yesterday that my flight had been cancelled. Now gonna wait for months until they reimburse me. Sucks

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    1. Too bad :( they didn't offer you a ticket on Aeroflot instead?

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    2. Sorry I just realized you didn't say from which city to Ljubljana, I presumed Moscow.

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    3. No, I'll have to do it by myself. You're right, I fly from Moscow. I booked the tickets via a third party that's why I expect the reimbursement to become a tedious process. I called both the third party and Adria reps in Moscow yesterday and they assured me it will be a full return. Adria person said they'd only found out yesterday

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    4. Ah too bad. Hope it works out. I'm sure they will refund full price, I just hope it is fairly quickly so you can book on another airline.

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    5. Thanks mate. I'm really raring to see Slovenia and speak their language with natives. I don't think it's a very popular destination. Even with Aeroflot, you can book ticket for any date and I plan for a mid-March trip so there's enough time

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    6. You should check their flights to ZAG if the ones to LJU get too expensive. They have very good deals to ZAG! And Zagreb is just 1,5 hours away from Ljubljana

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    7. Well, Venice is also very close. Besides, there are numerous options via VIE/BEG.

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    8. Currently Air Serbia is by far the cheapest with numerous options for ~150 Eur. round-trip.

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  30. The only question now is, if those ACMI deals they had planned (Austrian, Brussels, Lux, LH) are still valid or have they been cancelled as well - especially Austrian and Brussels.

    As things stand now, it's an economic miracle that Adria is still operational. The financial hole they created goes in the tens of millions and as far as I can see, the only reason the contractors do not pull the plug is 4K's constant assurance that the next big deal is just around the corner. And, as the folks at Slovenia Control said, it is simply unprecedented that an airline stops paying it's fees, so they have no mechanism of extracting the money from JP (they have to do it via Eurocontrol).

    Given the fact that 4K hasn't made one good policy decision, I aslo think the SSJ thing is a scam.

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    1. Oh, don't be so negative. CAA finished their very thorough and independent audit and found they are solvent. For such a world renowned agency and their impeccable history, how can you propose something like this :)

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  31. The "issue" with Slovenia's weak air traffic performance is:
    - One of the very fewest countries in the region with gastos and people leaving the country.
    - Car mentality
    - Proximity to VCE, TSF and northern Italy (rich region)
    - Neighbours one of the most visited countries in Europe and having 8 operational airports.

    But definitely, the 1st point is the most significant. I simply don't see a LJU-HHN, LJU-VXO, LJU-FMM route for instance. Even if you have Slovene diaspora worldwide, the number is still very low compared to say Romania, Serbia or Albania.
    Add to all this, the old-fashioned regional hub model.
    Many factors...

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    1. the gastos from the other countries from the region could be a goldmine for JP but the switched to Wizzair. JP lived from gasto in the 90s

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    2. True, back in the day when Ljubljana was the best if not the only link many people in the Balkans had with west and central Europe.

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    3. Slovenian diaspora is increasing with the "brain drain" for the past 10 years.

      Market for diaspora LCC will come.

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    4. Slovene diaspora in other Eu countries and worldwide is not small and is visibly increasing in the last years. Flying back "home" is more affordable via Italy if you are from the west, via Munich if you are from the north and via Vienna if you are from northeast Slovenia.

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    5. Barely 100,000 (if true) of Slovenes live abroad or of Slovenian heritage:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovene_diaspora

      This is an extremely low figure.

      The brain drain is not extreme compared to say, Romania or Poland. There are 1 million Poles in UK, 1 million Romanians in Italy.
      So the point is that you cannot expect huge traffic figures from Slovenia.

      It is not a migrant country, it is relatively small, it has a developed road network and Slovenes apparently aren't passionate to take the plane it seems.

      I think it is more than sufficient to just have connections to the main Euro destinations: London, Paris, Frankfurt, Moscow, etc.

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    6. Adria was milking the Balkan market for quite a while (2 decades) with exorbitant prices. Now when the region is way better connected they are paying the price <З. Sooner or later you always have to pay for your sins, they say <3

      BYE BYE Adria, you go where you belong

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    7. I wouldn't say RIP Adria, yet.
      The management must find a way to ADAPT to the market because the aviation industry is really dynamic you see.
      The current model is based on the 80s or 90s.
      Europe has changed a lot during the last decade when it comes to air travel.
      More and more cities are connected each and everyday. Just look at the ex yu homepage on your right. Flights, more new flights and more new connections.

      The only way out for JP is to restructure and find a new big partner or simply continue feeding Star Alliances such as LH, LO, OS, etc.

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  32. Starting to get really worried about Adria.

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  33. The main problem for Adria is not having the right yield management and marketing.

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  34. Adria has the least competition out of all the ex-yu airlines. If they can't make it with such a monopoly then the market probably is too small.

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    1. There is a reason why there is much less competition in LJU. Because demand is not sufficient.

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  35. Which aircraft was Dusseldorf operated with? CRJ?

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  36. Not surprised. Adria had a lot of business passengers on this flight but they were serving meals that are not really business meals, they deployed 90 seat CRJ with only one toilet (in the back), they changed departure time without notice etc. Of course the bus. pax moved to Aeroflot.

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    1. you must be kidding.... did you ever flight lju-svo?
      I flight several times and the biggest problem is/was BAGGAGE. Russian did not know that they must extra paid for baggage. They found out this when they do check-in in the airport... So, 1 family paid cca 120EUR for one direction for BAGGAGE... (if you do reservation 12h before you paid cca 15EUR for 1pc)
      They were really mad and unhappy, they feel so cheated.
      SU always have 1pc bag 23g for free.

      Every time the same picture at SVO airport at check in with Russian passengers ...

      My opinion is that the line has collapsed due to additional luggage.
      It is truth that is now 1pc bag 23kg free, but Russian had too many bad experiences regarding this.

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  37. emergency funding injection, new planes being introduced, new destinations announced and cancelled... when things start sounding very illogical from the outside, that's usually signs of imminent demise. Unfortunately, I don't think JP is going to last very long. We will see if 4K pumps little more money in March as they promised, otherwise...

    Honestly, I don't know why would they add fuel to the fire but I sad the same thing last time and they did it. There must be a lot of games being played in the background, games that are not driven by economic reasons.

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    1. Thing is, we have heard this song so many times now and nothing happened to Adria.
      Slovenia will not allow it, I think.

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    2. When nothing happened to Adria it was a state-owned company and now it is privately owned. See the difference?

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    3. Slovenia shouldn't have made this mistake with 4K, handing over its flag carrier.

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    4. What was the alternative? Handing out tens of millions of taxpayers money per year just to have a company where no-one cares about efficiency or profit? This was/is the mentality of the people working there. Government came with the bailout year after year after year...

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    5. @Anonymous25 January 2019 at 21:59:
      How about government finding a competent management team?! What they found was a bunch of amateurs. Adria was in need of someone who could really restructure the company by firing incompetent people who are dragging the company down.

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  38. and there is no potential for two flights per day JP and SU on MOW-LJU route or is something going on on LED-LJU/MBX at least charter?

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  39. In these 26 days of cold snowy January, SU sent the A320 a total of 8 times. Best proof that JP should leave this market to the professionals. Look at BEG, since the route was left to JU which is way more professional, it stayed as 12 weekly with fantastic times.

    Bye bye Adria. You won't be missed.

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    1. "...JU which is way more professional,..."

      Haha, sure! It's way more subsidized for sure!

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    2. ^Are you serious? The amount of subsidies and financial aid Adria has received is incomparable to any other airline in the region.
      http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-12-1246_en.htm

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