... Warsaw?

Odd Frankfurt I get but the rest I don't.

Oh and I get the Middle East ones too :D

FRA and LON I understand, but FCO and WAW seem like odd choices for me. Any particular reason?

Do we know the tourist structure in BiH? Are there some statistics from where the most tourists are coming from?

Warsaw?
Is there really demand for travel between the two countries?

I don't understand London either. Limited diaspora, visas, limited tourist numbers, no possibility for connections since Flybosnia doesn't have any codeshares or interlines, few business links...

Middle Easterners because of no visa requirement. The rest are diaspora visiting home.

I find it odd that no one has ever launched FRA since B&H Airlines died. Lufthansa could have but they only serve Sarajevo from Munich.

They need to fly all year around to FRA, DUS, TXL, AMS, CPH and ARN

With Brexit (eventually) coming and little appetite in Britain for more emigration from Eastern Europe I don't see how this route can succeed.
There isn't tourism demand for Bosnia from the UK either.

My only guess is that Warsaw and Rome will be from Mostar while Frankfurt and London (and Middle East) will be from Sarajevo.

Well their website finally seems to be up.

SJJ-WAW is probably linked with LO. I smell a codeshare agreement between the new airline and LO. The same applies for FCO. There it will be AZ.
Winds of change are awaiting BiH.
Not to mention the new, young player: BNX.

Didn't BA fly LGW-SJJ once upon a time?

Warsaw and Rome to Mostar could make sense but not to Sarajevo. Unless there is a highway or railway line Sarajevo - Mostar...

Flybosnia can't make codeshares. It doesn't have an IATA assigned airline code.

I'm interested to see which airport they will fly to in London.

From 2017:

1 Croatia

2 Turkey

3 Serbia

4 Slovenia

5 South Korea

6 Italy

7 Poland

8 Germany

9 China

10 United States

11 Malaysia

12 Saudi Arabia

13 Austria

14 France

15 United Arab Emirates

16 Montenegro

17 Oman

18 Netherlands

19 United Kingdom

20 Sweden

21 Hungary

22 Spain

23 Kuwait

Instead of Warsaw I would have rather understand Prague. Rome is understandable because of Medjugorje

STN or LTN most likely. LHR and LGW are pretty much maxed out and it is difficult to get any decent slots.

wow I'm really surprised with South Korea and Malaysia!

Only religious tourism for Medjugorje I would guess. Other than that no.

If they keep on expanding in Europe then it could negatively impact TZL numbers which is the closest LCC alternative to overpriced SJJ.

These are statistics (in Bosnian) for 2018

http://www.bhas.ba/saopstenja/2018/TUR_01_2018_04_0_HR.pdf

Looks good actually. Hope bookings start soon.

Yes STN and LTN make most sense. I just hope they can fill an A319 to make it work.

@9.13. They did. Started in 2006 and ended in 2008.

I think people will still to prefer with the low cost option - Wizz.

The creation of Flybosnia will give Wizz Air a better negotiating position with Tuzla Airport since they are getting competition. They will be able to ask for more in order to extend their contract.

Have no clue who they plan to fly to London. And I don't think many people will be lining up at the embassy to pay 200 euros for a British tourist visa.

This is great news. Sarajevo is finally being connected to main European airports.

+1

But how much more can they get? In the end Wizz will become too expensive for the city. It's not like Tuzla is rich.

Their plane went to Zagreb the day before yesterday. Doing some maintenance?

Nice crew

Wizz is Wizz. They will use the opportunity to get out as much as they can.

they must have enough money to waste on SJJ-OMO ferry flights ..

Agree. These are the main gasterbaiter routes.

Well surprisingly, according to SJJ, London is one of their top unsreved cities.

and why should they with the rest of Europe visa-free

they should consider LJU (huge diaspora) and SKP (BiH and MK gov. wanted to sponsor this route anyway so theres a chance to get on some some cash)

No matter the choice of destinations, I think we can all agree that this is the most serious airline project in Bosnia ever.

Bosnian diaspora estimates:

1. Germany – 180 000
2. USA– 145 000
3. Austria – 90 000
4. Sweden – 54 000
5. Turkey 45 000
6. Switzerland 40 000
7. Australia - 35 000
8. Canada – 30 000
9. Netherlands – 25 000
10. Slovenia – 21 542

I assume South Koreans visit when they go to Croatia. Malaysia is a surprise. I know BiH and Malaysia are close, but I wouldn't expect there to be too many tourists. I mean there more than from Hungary even which is relatively close.

I do wonder how that would work. Would they do a ferry flight or would they do SJJ-FCO-OMO-FCO-SJJ?

Yes I agree. But that's the more reason I don't understand them wanting to fly to London.

Could this have an impact on some airline in SJJ that rely on transfer passengers?

A319 will be difficult to fill at first on many of these routes. As a new company, they will have to have very good advertising and very attractive prices.

Warsaw is definitely the weirdest. Much more so than London.

I'm sure they have done some analysis and there is a reason they want to fly to London first.

Tuzla - London didn't work out for Wizz Air.

I like the plans so far.

I agree. They seem serious.

I'm just glad it won't be just Middle East flights. Finally connections to some world cities.

Yes and they have to start ticket sales ASAP if they want to launch in May.

I doubt it. At least not at this early stage.

Who would want to fly with Wizz?
Luton is nowhere near London and one of the worst airports in the UK that's why those flights failed!

Yes quite nice.

Warszaw is chosen probably because of Međugorje, Rome as well.
Although Bosnains need visa for UK, London is still top unserved destination from SJJ.
They released the website so you can see how serious partners they have.

So they will fly to Riyadh plus Flynas will fly to Riyadh?

Really exciting times ahead for Bosnian aviation. Finally!

Yes

+1. These owners have very deep pockets. I have no doubt they will take off.

When will the next A319 arrive?

Will this be the first time there will be Sarajevo-Warsaw flights?

Around a month ago they said the second plane would come within six to twelve months.

I think so. I don't remember LOT ever flying to Sarajevo.

It's surprising Wizz Air hasn't started flights from Warsaw to Bosnia.

Wizz doesn't fly to Mostar and it only flies one susbidised route from Budapest to Sarajevo. There is no interest for Poles to fly to Tuzla.

Kuwait is going to be a cash cow. Especially now that Wataniya Airways has gone bust.

Anyone know the registration of their current plane?

Malaysia is a Muslim country, so makes a bit of sense I think.

exactly my reaction lol

E7-FBA

https://www.exyuaviation.com/2019/01/flybosnia-outlines-fleet-and-network.html#comments

E7-FBA

MirnaBosna

Thank you

Kuwait Airways could have launched these flights at least seasonally. One thing is for sure - it will be a great year for Flydubai in Sarajevo witha lot of connecting passengers from GCC countries.

MirnaBosna Airlines :)

That's why they will be flying three times per day.

Good. Finally a national airline that will serve its own people.

If the Arabs can be trusted, there will be 3 birds by 2023. This will mean that SJJ will significantly increase its traffic and the prices will go down because of the competition with other carriers.

https://www.flybosnia.ba/media-release

I don't think W6 will be happy about their existence . They might contact the local government and have their share of the cake.

So cute, but they won't make it to 2020.

Codeshare with LOT?
Might be a good move. Hopefully they will codeshare with LH as well. Good luck!

With resonable prices and hopefully convenient Gatwick flights they could attract lots of tourists from UK.

Many South Koreans spend overnight in Neum when they tour Adriatic coast. I was quite surprised when I saw what a year round business they have made in Neum by hosting these groups.

LH is expanding more their MUC operations. For transfer passengers MUC is much better option

3x as many Bosnians live abroad, hmm, where are they?

That would be nice. If Flybosnia is successful, it will certainly make others take note and the Star Alliance monopoly at the airport can be broken.

Why do you think so?

And they even planned B737MAX9

Yeah I don't think those MAX flights are realistic now...

Can't wait to see their fares. Hope they are competitive.

Rome is acceptable according this.

Neum has historically been a lot cheaper (especially food) then the surrounding areas of Croatia.

Italy and Poland will be for pilgrims. Germany and UK for diaspora. Middle East for Arab tourists.

I think their pax planes actually have less capacity then the new generation 738s.

They haven't. But I could see them start seasonal flights next year.

There is some tourism demand from UK for Sarajevo as City break. So prob for that rather than diaspora. Whenever I have been on OU from zag to SJJ there have been British (and american) tourists on boards..one of the best cone tions or Austrian vie VIE. Ditto. Brits are looking for interesting and value short break destinations. BCN..DBV...FCO..NCE now getting v expensive. We will see. Sadly it it is LTN will be mostly stag parties...horrible airport

Well dear, Luton itself seems like an Asian/Middle Eastern town, let alone its airport.
As for London, there is almost demand everywhere you can think of. This city has the most connections on the entire planet. 6 airports is simply crazy.
Besides if BA once served SJJ, then there was a very good reason behind that.

On my opinion, the most logical airport is Gatwick as it before with BA.
Concerning Warsaw, I would say Chopin Aiport and not Modlin, because it´s served by Ryanair.
Rome will be FCO and not CIA.

Citam komentare na moguce destinacije Fly Bosnia. Ne mogu vjerovati sta citam, ne mogu vjerovati da skoro i ne postoji komercijalna i marketing sluzba. Da se ne zna sta i gdje ce letiti ali se spominju gradovi koji se nikada nisu smatrali ozbiljnim odredistima. Kakva Varsava, kakav London (LHR i LGW zaboravi, ostaju samo STN i LTN), pa ko to jos iz regiona leti za Varsavu , Adrija prestala, Srbija prestala, LOT jos nesto pokusava na ovim prostorima ali zato sto ima dobre konekcije za Ameriku,Kanadu, Japan,Kinu. Maleziju itd. Ali onda bi trebalo pricati sa LOT-om, a zato treba biti clan IATA, treba imati elektronske karte itd itd itd. Jedan milion evra investicija u insfrastrukturu NAJMANJE ! Avione (ako dodju) treba uposliti na provjerenim destinacijama a jos vise gledati da se napravi medjunarodni audit o kvaliteti i bezbjednosti letenja (IOSA) ili nesto slicno da bi se mogla dogovarati kratkorocna i dugorocna saradnja sa kompanijama u regionu i van regiona. Pogledajte samo Trade Air, na njih se treba ugledati. Privatnik a pametan ! U ljetnjem periodu svima trebaju avioni, sto u carter letovima sto u redovnom aranzmanu. BH Airlines je 4 mjeseca prije prestanka operacija trebao napraviti wet-lease posao decenije sa Air Serbia tj. da na 6 mjeseci iznajmi jedan ATR72 sa komplatnom posadom i da preuzme liniju Sarajevo-Beograd-Sarajevo. Na zalost do toga nije doslo. Ali sve to zato sto je BH Airlines konsekutivno 6 godina imala IOSA certifikat. Kosta, ali se isplati. Ocigledno je da vlasnik FBA ima sredstava za to i neka onda to i napravi. Kako god, sretno ali i pametno !

Where is Amsterdam?
People from saudi could take connecting flights via Amsterdam. And a lot of dutch people are interested in visiting Bosnia...

Dal si ti čovječe ikad čuo za Međugorje?
Dal znaš da je London najcesce odrediste iz sjj koje nema direktan let?

Maybe Warsaw - Mostar, because of Polish pilgrimage travelling to Medjugorje?

Maybe they want to connect Gulf Countries with London through SJJ. Just guessing

Indeed, Warsaw is an interesting destination because of the pilgrims' market.

South Korean tourists mainly go to Međugorje. There is an important Christian population there.