Summer 2019 - Air Serbia


The 2019 summer season begins on Sunday March 31 with Air Serbia set to make a number of network changes as it implements its largest single expansion since its relaunch in October 2013. The Serbian carrier will introduce nine new routes, seven of which will be year-round and two of which will be maintained seasonally. The new destinations will mostly see Air Serbia return to markets formerly operated by JAT Yugoslav Airlines - Barcelona, Cairo, Kiev, Madrid, Rijeka and Zadar - with Nice, Krasnodar and Helsinki having never been served from Belgrade by either Air Serbia or its predecessor. All of the new routes will be run twice per week with exception to the Finnish capital, Kiev and Krasnodar, which will operate three times per week.

The Serbian carrier will add an extra weekly flight onto seven routes. These include Copenhagen, Dubrovnik, Paris, Sofia, Stockholm, Tivat and Zagreb, while an additional two weekly services will be introduced to Zurich, when compared to the 2018 summer season. The airline will run double daily flights to the French capital, where it will compete against Air France and ASL Airlines France this summer. Furthermore, in a boost to its Scandinavian operations, both Copenhagen and Stockholm will be maintained on a daily basis. In addition, Tivat will be operated 22 times per week, Zagreb twelve, Sofia daily, while Zurich will be run up to nineteen times per week.

The airline plans to boost capacity on some routes as well. Three of its double daily flights to Vienna will be operated with the 144-seat Airbus A319 aircraft this summer instead of the seventy-seat ATR72 turboprop, while all six of its services to Split will be maintained with the A319 instead of the ATR. Air Serbia will run a significant number of charter flights this summer which will be performed by its dedicated leisure brand Aviolet, with almost 1.000 operations planned so far. On the other hand, the airline will also decrease frequencies on four routes by one weekly flight, in order to free up capacity for some of the abovementioned destinations. Athens, Milan, Skopje and St Petersburg will all have one flight per week less than last year. As a result, operations to the Greek capital (double daily), as well as Milan (daily), and St Petersburg (three weekly) will now be maintained with the same number of frequencies as they were during the 2017 summer season.

Please note that the changes listed below are preliminary and based on current availability in the GDS (Global Distribution System). Air Serbia is prone to making additional changes mid-way through the season. The table below displays the peak weekly frequency on each route during the course of the summer season. Increases in frequencies to a number of destinations do not come into effect until mid-June. Seasonal flights to Split and Dubrovnik will run until the end of the summer season, while services to Malta and Pula will operate until mid-September, and to St Petersburg and Hamburg until mid-October. EX-YU Aviation News will also bring you summer season changes for Adria Airways, Croatia Airlines and Montenegro Airlines during the course of the month.

DestinationFrequency S2018Frequency S2019Change  Notes
Amsterdam1010--
Athens1514▼ 1-
Barcelona02▲ 2starts JUN04
Banja Luka55--
Beirut77--
Berlin77--
Brussels44--
Bucharest88--
Cairo02 2starts JUN04
Copenhagen67 1-
Dubrovnik67 1resumes MAY18
Dusseldorf66--
Frankfurt77--
Hamburg34 1resumes JUN20
Helsinki03▲ 3starts JUN03
Kiev03▲ 3starts JUN04
Krasnodar03▲ 3starts JUN03
Larnaca77--
Ljubljana1212--
London Heathrow99--
Madrid02▲ 2starts JUN05
Malta33--
Milan87▼ 1-
Moscow1010--
New York66--
Nice02▲ 2starts JUN06
Paris1314 1-
Podgorica2121--
Pula44 -resumes JUN10
Prague77--
Rijeka02▲ 2starts JUN04
Rome77--
Sarajevo77--
Sofia67 1-
Split66-resumes MAY13
Skopje1312▼ 1-
Stockholm67 1-
St Petersburg43▼ 1-
Stuttgart66--
Tel Aviv55--
Tirana99--
Tivat2122 1-
Thessaloniki1414--
Venice44--
Vienna1414--
Zadar02 2starts JUN21
Zagreb1011 1-
Zurich1719 2-







Comments

  1. I must admit that they now finally have a really respectable route network.

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    1. For a small-size airline this is indeed a respectable network.

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    2. Nice, but one question. How come they can manage all taht expansion with the same fleet?

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    3. Probably people from Belgrade as all JU seats at reasonable prices will be taken by transfer passengers. :)

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    4. Ups previous comment should have gone to question who will now fly with Vueling.

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    5. That's a pretty idiotic comment Anon 00.56 especially since most flights to BCN were filled with local passengers. And even if most were filled with transfer passengers, those from Belgrade could fly with Alitalia which regularly dumps fares to Spain. So no one loses.

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    6. It is very interesting to see how insulting comments like this one of Nemjee does not get censored. :)

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    7. Because there is nothing to censor. Your comment brings absolutely no quality to the discussion and its only purpose is to trash JU with no good enough reason.

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    8. As I can see comment was mistakenly given here and not at some other point when Vueling was mentioned. Plus it seems reasonable. Chill out Nemjee, JU is going to be fine!

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    9. It stops being reasonable after the same type of comment was made for the 500th time.

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    10. 500 times or more problem for Serbian travellers and tax payers remains. :)

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  2. I still don't understand how they will operate all these flights with the same number of aircraft.

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    1. They will lease an extra plane for sure, but probably not until June.

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    2. Yes it seems logical to me they will wait until June when new routes start, charters peak and a lot of the frequency increases go into affect to lease an extra plane. Otherwise I don't think they would be able to deliver this schedule.

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    3. They could operate all scheduled flights with actual capacity without any problems. Additional A319 could be used for flights from INI.

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  3. So overall a net increase of 27 weekly flights (not including charters).

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  4. Interesting that Hamburg doesn't return until mid summer.

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    1. Obviously gasto dominated route.

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  5. I really hope they will keep all the new destinations. We will see.

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  6. That is an extra 50 flights a week.
    I hope they have enough fleet capacity to run this flying schedule smoothly.
    Aviolet is also increasing its charter flying this year too.
    Or they should lease an extra A320 for the peak summer months.

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    1. How did you get extra 50 flights?

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    2. Anonymous at 09:11
      Aircraft don't just go to a destination, they have to return back to BEG too. So that is 50 flights total a week extra compared with S18.

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    3. This plus all the foreign airlines adding flights will mean a very busy summer for BEG.

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    4. BEG will be a mess this summer. I hope they find a way to cope with all this extra traffic.

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    5. In total around 80 extra rotations per week from/to Belgrade this summer.

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    6. And no extra frequencies by Wizz, nice. Their market share will collapse.

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    7. 11-12 extra flights a day really isn't all that much so as to make the airport a mess.
      I am sure Vinci will increase personnel doing security screenings, handling etc. and everything will run smoothly.

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    8. Yep they are already hiring more ground staff at BEG.

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  7. In Scandinavia we are just missing Oslo. Otherwise they have done a good job. I still can't believe they are finally starting Spain. Very happy about it!

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    1. Reykjavik missing too :P joking, but it is good to see that CPH and ARN are going back to daily.

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    2. Oslo is well covered by Norwegian, but I would love to see JU fly to one of the other international airports in Norway, like Bergen or Trondheim. They have good regional connections by airlines interlining with JU, so it could work well for both guest workers and tourists, as well as Yugoslavs living in Norway (mostly Bosnians and Serbs).

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  8. Impressive network for a regional network, no one can deny it, not even pro haters :)

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  9. Spain seems to be selling really well. In August some dates to Barcelona are already sold out! Some already have A320 assigned to it.

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    1. Nice. It was long overdue.

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    2. I honestly don't know what they were waiting until now.

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    3. Poor Vueling. Who will fly with them now and arrived to BCN at 04.00 in the morning. :D

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  10. They are really advertising transfer options from Krasnodar to the rest of Europe a lot :) Speaking of transfers on my flight from Brussels last week a girl sitting next to me was from Greece and was heading to Athens via BEG. Also lot of Lebanese passengers on the flight.

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    1. +1
      They offer some great deals for connecting flights! You can get a cheaper ticket for BEY-BEG-AMS than just BEG-AMS.

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    2. Well that's normal. All over the world, airlines charge lower fares for passengers who are travelling on two flights (transit) because the airline gets money from both flights — it results in price discrimination, whereby the same seats on the same flight can be significantly different in price. It’s a similar situation with BA in London, SingaporeAir in Singapore, Iberia in Madrid, etc.

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    3. It means that someone flying from BEG to CDG subsidizes with the price he pays for his ticket the ticket for someone flying from BEY to CDG via BEG.
      It is great if you are a Lebanese, not so great if you are a Serb.

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    4. That is why Polish and German people subsidize Serbs who fly for €700 to the US while Germans pay more than €1000.

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    5. Tickets from France to Beirut are not cheap as they were some years ago, Aegean is much more aggressive.

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    6. Price for BEG-AMS is reasonable now. Return trip is 100 euro,only airpor taxes are 50 Euro.Same goes for Berlin ,return trip is 80 euro

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    7. Samo ljudi iz exYu pisu kako neko subvencionira nekoga na nekom letu dok im se subvencionirane kompanije raspadaju. Onaj iz Bejruta za Pariz placa nizu cenu do BE puni avion i placa deo troskova leta za Pariz inace bi karta za onog iz Beograda bila jos skuplja. Ne placa punu cenu karte do Beograda inace ne bi leteo.

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    8. Nacionalni sport - zavirivanje u tudji novcanik

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    9. To sediste iz BEY za BEG i iz BEG za AMS bi islo prazno, a ako ga prodas i za 100 eur to je cist prihod; problem nastaje kada nemas dovoljno lokalnih putnika po segmentu BEY-BEG ili BEG-AMS koji placaju punu cenu koja "drzi" ili isplacuje let nego ti vecinu putnika cine tranzitni putnici, onda taj let moze da bude neprofitabilan....svi na svetu to rade, lider je LH koja je jos osamdesetih razvila softver koji ukljucuje sve parametre i diriguje kompaniji kada, kako, kome i koliko da naplati (through Lyfthansa systems).

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    10. Ne bi sediste islo prazno za Pariz svakako. Da kosta 100 EUR u proseku a ne 350 I LF bi bio bolji.

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    11. Визер наплати 100 ојра у једном смеру до оне чатрље коју називају париским аеродромом. Дакле нереално је очекивати исто од Ер Србије. Уз све то, изгледа да се банда удружила тако да сви колективно деру путнике... и Јат, и Визер и Ер Франс. Но добро, зато могу да се нађу карте за 220, 250 евра преко Луфтхансе. То јест оне карте које субвенционишу Немци. ;)

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    12. Bog blagoslovio biznis putnike Lufthanse sto nam subvencionisu letove :)
      Koliko puta Brisel bude 250 a kod JU po 350 iako avion leti poluprazan. I tako i za London i mnoge druge destinacije. Zato LH uvek ima overbooking na vecernjem letu iz Frankfurta.

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    13. У чему је онда проблем? Има јефтинијих летова до Брисела, кога брига да ли је са ЈУ или са неким другим.

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    14. Svakako je lakse leteti bez presedanja. Da ne pominjemo da je letenje sa presedanjem u situaciji kada postoji direktan let ekoloski neprihcatljivo.

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    15. У том случају иди бициклом до Брисела, то ти је најеколошкије. А ако ти бицикл не одговара изволи имаш Визер за Ајндховен. Само што наравно њих нико овде не напада због цена које су знатно скочиле у последње време.

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  11. Very good network.

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  12. Happy to see Cairo back after so many years and nice that it is year round.

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    1. Fares are very affordable too.

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  13. wow, this looks really impressive on a map!

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  14. I am surprised SKP is their only Balkan destination to see a reduction. Such a shame.

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    1. There is no use competing against Wizz Air. W6 has now covered pretty much all of Europe from Skopje. And I know someone will say how Adria and Croatia added flights but people forget that P2P travel is also large but the majority of those that just want to go to Belgrade drive, which is not a convinient option to Zagreb or Ljubljana.

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    2. ATH is reduced too from 15 to 14 weekly.
      But Aegean is increasing capacity with 5 weekly A320s instead of 3 last year so overall the traffic will be up.

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    3. For the crappy service they do to SKP they're happy they have any passengers left. The number of times people have been left to spend a night at BEG airport without proper communication and "4:59" delays is beyond count now. Just despicable attitude.

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    4. I have never seen any major delays to SKP, especially the overnight flight.

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    5. That one flight made no sense anyway, it used to depart at 07.30 with virtually no connections on the way back and only JFK to feed it on the way there.

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    6. They're not delays. They are outright cancellations of the night SKP leg and replacement with a morning flight without providing overnight stay and trying to wiggle out of having to pay compensation. Happened multiple times to both me and people I know.

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    7. Huh? What morning flight? I think you are confusing something as JU doesn't have a morning SKP flight.

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  15. They have covered Croatia completely.

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    1. Romania should be their next focus especially since most destinations can be served year-round.

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    2. Based on what do you say year round?

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    3. Based on their current service outside summer months. In Croatia only ZAG has relatively ok demand outside of summer, in Romania there is much more potential.

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  16. They will need more birds this summer that's for sure. Also this network to me seems like an introduction to long haul expansion next year, or possibly even in winter.

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    1. Yep, looks to me like Air Serbia is preparing for some long haul expansion in 2020 with this year's summer network, which is the much smarter way to go about it then they did in 2016 with JFK.

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  17. How will their Helsinki flights work out 3x per week year round??

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    1. The sudden interest in Finland from ex-Yu region is interesting. First Croatia Airlines introduced seasonal flights from Zagreb, then Wizz Air announces flights from Skopje to Turku, and now Air Serbia from Belgrade to Helsinki. What's going on?

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    2. @ 9,29 for me the bigger question is Krasnodar.

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    3. If they promote it well then it can work quite nicely, BEG is right on the way from KRR to Europe. I think they will hurt OS big time because they need to fly south of Crimea while JU doesn't since BEG is much more to the south.

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    4. Which other major European airlines fly to KRR?

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    5. Aeroflot, Austrian and Turkish. There are a lot of airlines flying to Krasnodar but I would say these are the major ones.

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    6. Krasnodar handles more pax than ZAG.

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    7. Sudden interest in Finnland? Well Finnair and Norwegian have been flying for years now to both Slovenia and Croatia where they have multiple daily flight to the coast. The demand is enormous. FInnair flies to LJU, PUY, DBV and SPU. OU stepped in carrieng the people via ZAG, now JU will do the same via BEG.

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    8. @9.35 Finns are mostly interested (and have been for a long time) in the Croatian coast and Ohrid, so personally I believe that TKU-OHR would have been a better choice for Wizzair than TKU-SKP but most of AirSerbia's passengers will in any case head straight to Jadran.

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    9. I am sure Air Serbia will not only carry passengers to the Adriatic coast, there is also Greece where JU managed to build a decent reputation.

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  18. Very nice developments from JU this summer.

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  19. Considering they shrank or stagnated for 2 years this is a nice change of pace. Good luck Air Serbia.

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  20. Let's not forget that soon they will probably also be adding flights from Nis.

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    1. Doubt it will be them, I think flights will go to FR or maybe even W6 who might add a third plane to BEG and use it to expand INI.

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  21. Not surprised about Barcelona performing well in advanced booking. Tour operators are all advertising Barcelona and Madrid big time this year for the summer and my guess is all are using JU.

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    1. My guess is many tour operators migrated from Vueling to JU.

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  22. I hope the new routes hold up.

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  23. Didn't realize Krasnodar was just over the black sea. Flying time from BEG probably isn't too long.

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    1. Flight time is scheduled at 2h30min

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  24. Now thy just have to return to full service model and I will be happy.

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    1. For me even does not have to be full meal, but would be good to get some sandwich/cake/chocolate bar or fruits with tea/coffee and water/juice as usually others offer on flights across Europe, instead of just water with couple of pretzels.

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    2. Most flights are under 2 hours, water and pretzels are fine for me. I can buy more if needed.

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  25. PRN is still missing.

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  26. Impressive! I hope the fleet will be able to support this schedule!

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  27. Good year for Serbian aviation in general.

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    1. Exactly.
      Especially if we have a look how many new routes (more than 40!) by foreign airlines will be opened to BEG in summer 2019

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  28. I'm no fanboy but this seems like a respectable network. Nice to see a lot of increases.

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  29. Now that's starting to look like something.

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  30. Ozbiljan i veoma ambicozan red letenja. Svaka cast i srecno!

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    1. A sada svim snagama u sredjivanje flote :)

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  31. My guess is that Split hasn't gone daily because of slot resstrictions.

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    1. Croatia is now their biggest market concerning flown destinations. 6 destinations.

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  32. Wasn't SOF always daily?

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    1. it went down to 6 weekly last summer.

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    2. I think JU suffered as a result of the FR-W6 onslaught in Sofia. Now that the situation seems to be stabilizing their loads and yields must have improved.

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  33. How are they able to add so many frequencies with the same number of aircraft as last year?

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    1. They will probably lease extra equipment but there is no need for it until the middle of summer.

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    2. No need for extra planes. They still have less frequencies than 4 years ago. Plus they do not fly to Abu Dhabi which equals to 3 regional/charter flights over the same period. 1000 return charter flights seem impressive but in reality they are spread over 100 days of pick summer season plus some run from Mid May to mid October. JU will be fine fleetwise.

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  34. 48 destinations in total, pretty nice network. Hopefully they manage to break 50 with some long haul destinations

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  35. Good luck JU! I would love IKA and AMM to be added.

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    1. What would they do with Amman?!

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    2. The same like in BEY - transfer

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    3. Only difference is that Lebanese diaspora is incomparably larger and lives all over the world.

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    4. Jordan is a major tourist destination, they can fill a three weekly flight, I mean RO manages to with their rather limited network.

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    5. Erm hello... if they can operate to Cyprus on a year-round basis then why couldn't they make AMM work? The biggest issue would be the length of the flight, it would be extremely tight as it's slightly longer than BEY.

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  36. Nice. I think the new destinations were really good decisions.

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  37. Nice picture with one of JUs best male flight attds, well experienced from many years serving with QR. Good choice JU!!

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  38. The only thing missing from BEG is direct flights to Lisbon and Dublin, and then the airport is pretty much covered evenly across Europe. Maybe then only Lyon still?

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    1. Agree. ASL Airlines France is considering Lyon-Belgrade
      https://www.exyuaviation.com/2018/12/asl-airlines-france-eyes-success-on.html

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    2. I don't think ASL does that well in BEG, they did not extend flights even if they said they would consider doing it if there was success.

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  39. Dublin would be a good destinatio for 2pw flights. Probably Kuwait as well.

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    1. I don't think so.

      Don't forget that Serbian citizens need visa for Ireland and transfer possibilities through Ireland are not that attractive as through Schengen airports.

      Kuwait..too far

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    2. Jazeera Airways should add Belgrade to its network.

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  40. I hope that JU's long term plan is to at least fly double daily to ex-yu airport.

    I think that only OMO is missing from ex-yu.

    Maybe try Ohrid again.

    Great 2019 ahead for the biggest airport in region.

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  41. Evaluating Krasnodar, I'm also wondering whether there is potential for 2 way tourist traffic. The city is pretty close to Crimea, and could act as a gateway for those Serbian/regional tourists that wish to spend their summer holidays on the crimean peninsula. I hear it's pretty lovely that side in summer.

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    1. I Soči je relativno blizu Krasnodara.

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    2. https://www.ekapija.com/news/2427141/energoprojekt-ugovorio-posao-u-rusiji-projektovanje-i-radovi-u-rostovu-na-donu
      I Rostov na Donu je na oko 300 km od Krasnodara. Tačnije 287 km.

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  42. So with this JU expansion and the rest of the carriers, will BEG achieve 6 million this year?

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  43. Bravo Serbia!

    This is definitely going to be the year of Serbian aviation, with healthy organic JU and BEG growth, expansion at Nis, and opening of Kraljevo Airport. This country's aviation sector always had so much potential that was not reaped due to mismanagement. Finally someone grabbed the bull by the horns.

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    1. Do you think there is room for Niš, Kraljevo, & Užica airports operating all at the same time. It might spread the potential pax a little too thin.

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  44. Is it possible to publish the map of planned Aviolet/Air Serbia charter flights?

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    1. Aviolet site has destinations from 2018. Unprofessional. They only way is to contact travel agencies directly.

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    2. They update the website in April each year when they have the full list of destinations they will be flying to. Most airlines don't even list charter destinations, let alone have a dedicated site. Stop being spoilt.

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    3. Most airlines don't have dedicated charter brand. Aviolet brand should be retired with the last 733 as Airbus fleet will continue to fly charters.

      Exyu admin probably edited list of routes, copy/pasted it into gcmap and ta-da, 15 minutes max effort to create three destination maps. Once charter list is out in April I will create charter map to save spoilt Aviolet webadmins from exertion.

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  45. I would like to see MUC added as a year-round route.

    Also; WAW & IST should be retried, and maintained at least 5x weekly. These are important cities.

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    1. Retired? I suppose you mean returned/restarted?

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    2. You seem to have misread 'retried.' But what do you think about what I wrote?

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    3. Not Warsaw because no P2P, but yeah Istanbul daily should work.

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  46. In the ex-yu market, only Prishtina, Ohrid, and Nish are missing. Tuzla isn't viable from BEG

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    1. Niš je 220 km udaljen od BEG. I to povezano auto - putem. Malo illuzorno. Dođeš sat -sat i po ranije na aerodrom, letiš oko pola sata, 45 minuta, i kolima si za to vreme u BEG ili INI. Sa aerodroma u BEG ti treba pola sata i dok uračunaš preuzimanje prtljaga opet pola sata ispade da ti treba, u najboljem slučaju oko dva i po sata. Ovo je za INI - BEG. Petnestsk minuta manje BEG - INI. Šta se time dobija, osim ako nije neki transfer, a i to je pitanje?

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    2. INI - BEG only makes sense for transfer pax from Niš. Agree that no one would fly to BEG from INI when driving is so much more convenient.

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    3. Ниш је 250 км од аеродрома, не 220.
      Ниш би био популарна линија за оне који преседају. Замисли хорор, слетиш из Њујорка у 05.30 и онда се клацкаш до аутобуске па онда још 02.45 до Ниша. Овако лепо преседнеш као човек и стигнеш у Ниш за свега пола сата.

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    4. Pa da ste pročitali moj post, videli bi da sam napisao da bi to radilo samo za transfere. I to samo neke. Jedino ako mislite da na toj liniji treba da bude petnaestak polazaka dnevno. Ako bude 2 - 3 leta dnevno, onda bi čekanje na transfer bilo i po nekoliko sati. Što je isto vreme kao i vreme za chek in. I mislim da tih 30km ne predstavlja neku razliku.

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    5. I u dolasku BEG i u odlasku bi morali da preuzmu prtljag i da urade check in. Takođe u BEG treba da urade carinsku i pasošku kontrolu. Kada dolaze iz INI uzmu prtljag, izvrše pasošku kontrolu, a kad dolaze u BEG pasošku, carinsku kontrolu preuzimanje prtljaga i onda predaja prtljaga za INI.

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    6. Preuzimanje i ponovna predaja prtljaga?! Gde si to video bilo gde u Evropi za transferne letove? :)
      Let svakako ne bi koristili samo transferni putnici. Bez prtljaga na taj let moze bez problema da se krene sat vremena pred poletanje sa Novog Beograda.

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    7. Pa verovatno da bi to bilo potrebno jer putnici koji bi leteli JFK-BEG-INI bi u Beogradu morali da prodju kroz carinsku kontrolu jer je let BEG-INI domaci i u Nisu ne bi bilo carinske kontrole.

      To znaci da bi morali da preuzmu kofer, prodju carinsku kontrolu na BEG i onda opet taj kofer predaju na drop off salteru jer je check in vec uradjen u JFK.

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    8. INI - BEG je domaći let. BEG - INI je, takođe, domaći let. I video (iskusio) sam na letu Beograd - Sankt Petersburg via Mkoskva. I kako bi vi leteli u SAD iz Beograda preko Njujorka do Majamija? Ko bi vam u Majamiju uradio pasošku i carinsku kontrolu na letu između dva grada u SAD? Da li sad malo jasnije?

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    9. Pasoska i carinska kontrola nisu isto. Obavljaju je dve razlivite vrste organa i predstavljaju odvojene administrativne procedure. :)
      Osoba koja dolece na transfernom letu bi morala da obavi pasosku kontrolu ali prtljag svakako nastavlja do finalne destinacije kako je to uobicajeno u avio saobracaju vec preko 30 god. Npr, osoba sleti u Njujork, prodje pasosku kontrolu, a njen prtljag nastavlja do Majamija gde ga podize. Carinski organi imaju pristup i pravo pregleda prtljaga na aerodromu Njujork u restriktivnoj zoni aerodroma (sto se u praksi redovno i cini).

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    10. Pa gde će izvršiti carinsku kontrolu? U Nišu, prilikom odlaska za Beograd ili dolaska iz Beograda? Kako to zamišljate? Doleti neko iz Beograda kao transferni putnik iz Londona, pokupi prtljag i zato što dolazi iz Beograda odlazi na domaće dolaske, a ne na međunarodne dolaske. Isti je slučaj i sa odlascima iz Niša.

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    11. @dd
      Nema skupljanja prtljaga u Vasem opisanom slucaju. Prtljag direktno putuje u Nis. Kao sto npr. direkto putuje u Madrid kada presedate u Cirihu na letu iz Nisa. Carinski organi postoje i imaju pravo kontrole.

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    12. Koji ce carinik da kontrolise putnike na domacoj liniji Beograd-Nis?

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    13. Pa to je međunarodni let. VI ne napuštate deo aerodroma koji predstavlja, da kazemo, ničiju zemlju. I kada dođete u Madrid, proćićete carinsku kontrolu, jer je let iz Ciriha medunarodni let. Linija Beograd - Niš je još uvek domaća, osim ako vi nemate neke novije informacije. Još uvek onima iz Niša i onima iz Beograda ne treba pasoš da bi putovali u između ta dva grada. Da li je sad jasnije?

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    14. Ja imam utisak da mi ne pricamo isti jezik iako nam je obojici srpski ocigledno maternji.

      JFK-BEG medjunarodni let
      BEG-INI domaci let

      Da bi se sa medjunarodnog preslo na domaci mora se proci pasoska i carinska kontrola. To se jedino moze uraditi u Beogradu posto je to ulazno/izlazna tacka iz Srbije. A posto se to mora uraditi u Beogradu isto tako se prtljag mora pokupiti , proci kroz carinsku sluzbu i ako je sve u redu kao domaci putnik nastaviti ka Nisu ponovnim predavanjem prtljaga.

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    15. Let Cirih - Madrid ili Frankfurt Madrid je let u okviru Sengen zone. Jeste li ikada leteli negde u Sengen zonu sa presedanje u Sengen zoni?!
      Ili da budem jos jasniji. Let Beograd - Frankfurt - Hamburg. Pasiska kontrola je u Frankfurtu ali se prtljag uzima u Hamburgu.

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    16. Ali znate li zasto?
      Razlog je vrlo prost.
      Na letu Beograd-Frankfurt-Hamburg vas prtljag je oblezen belom a ne zelenom bojom sto znaci da ste let zapoceli van EU i da carinik sme da vas prekontrolise.
      U Njujorku niko nece posebno oblezavati prtljag samo zbog Air Serbie

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  47. I hope they will replace the ATR fleet as soon as possible, or at least use 72-500s much more. 72-200 is really noisy and uncomfortable, even for one hour flight. One can't have normal discussion aboard.

    Rgds from Ljubljana,
    Eight

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  48. The route map is looking good now. It seems only Geneva is missing as a link from Belgrade at the moment. They only need to consolidate their frequencies to existing destination, try to increase the frequencies.

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    1. What about more cities in Italy, Romania?

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    2. Easyjet flies Geneva-Belgrade so it might be difficult for Air Serbia to compete. Swiss failed on the route after easy started.

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    3. If NCE route at expensive French Riviera does well for tourists from Belgrade, then the next step should be Naples in Italy. Air Serbia had charters to Naples last year:

      https://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-Serbia/Airbus-A319-131/5415065

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    4. NCE worked nicely for W6 for OTP and SOF.
      JU must consider NCE and not LYS.

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    5. Swiss didn’t fail on the GVA - BEG route, for them it was totally different story. They didn’t have the choice, due to the base restructuring.

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    6. JU will fly to NCE this summer season

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  49. Could Mostar work 3x weekly?

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    1. JU is not interested in OMO. Even OU struggles there

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    2. because of OU stupid schedule..

      If JU tries a better time slot, they could count on transfer passengers from OMO.

      But just not enough planes.

      JU should think about leasing several ATR 42s..

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  50. my opinion Fleet for JU should look like by 2022

    A330 x2
    A321 x2
    A320 x4
    A319 x12
    ATR72 x6
    ATR42 X2

    Aviolet

    Beoing 737-700 x3
    Beoing 737-800 x1

    Lease obviously

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    1. I would exclude the A321. It's harder to fill this plane.

      For the Aviolet it would probably be the Max 8. Even though it has an old-fashioned design is still a new aircraft.
      Why not add a 767 for charter busy Aviolet destinations too. They are cheap an reliable.

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    2. Why on Earth would they need 18 aircrafts from A320 family?! JU already flies half empty outside peak season on most routes.

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    3. Half empty on most routes? What garbage. I think you're confusing them with another "seasonal" regional flag carrier.

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    4. why 16 A319/A320

      because by 2022 JU should fly to many big cities 3/day at least.

      likes of FRA, CDG, AMS, SVO etc

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    5. @Anonymous7 March 2019 at 10:46

      Could you give us official LF for JU during winter seasons?

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    6. @YYZ BEG
      I think you are too optimistic. FRA is now daily (with some struggles) and might go to triple daily only if they join Star Alliance and start code sharing with LH.
      AMS and CDG are performing well in terms of LF because JU is feeding AF/KLM for cheap (while charging top prices to O&D passengers).

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    7. JU can't get the slots it wants in FRA, that's the main reason why there are no morning flights in summer.

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    8. If it joins Star Alliance JU could get additional slots in FRA, maybe even operate all flights on BEG-FRA route like Adria for Ljubljana. Unlikely to happen. But overall, they need to scale down fleet and operations and try to become profitable (for real).

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    9. Scale down? Not really, they need to grow and to expand their network so as to build a critical mass. It's not like they have 350 aircraft, they are a small airline and if they further shrink they will go bankrupt. Both Aegean and LOT survived because they grew, not because they shrank.
      Serbia is a relatively small and poor market, they need to get passengers from elsewhere in order to further boost their profitability and financial stability.

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    10. That is another option. To have 50% more frequencies and double the number of passengers. Hopefully government will not poor money in that project just to try to become stable and profitable.

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