Air Serbia readies for massive expansion


Air Serbia is preparing for the launch of 21 new routes over the next two months, eighteen of which will operate on a year-round basis and three that will run seasonally. Last Thursday, the carrier signed a contract for the introduction of twelve subsidised services from Niš Constantine the Great Airport. “We will connect Niš with seven countries, six within the European Union, as well as Montenegro. The first six countries will be linked from July 15, with the full schedule to be operational by August 1. Concerning Montenegro, there is an administrative condition that needs to be fulfilled and until that is met the Niš - Tivat service can't be launched. However, we believe this will be dealt with by the time the new routes commence", the Assistant Minister for Aviation, Zoran Ilić, explained.

Signing of the subsidy agreement between Air Serbia and the government

Air Serbia will require additional aircraft in order to maintain its peak summer schedule. It has so far contracted a Nordica Bombardier CRJ900 jet, which will be utilised from June until October and has been scheduled on select flights from Belgrade to Dubrovnik, Dusseldorf, Hamburg, Helsinki, Kiev, Prague, Stuttgart, Thessaloniki, Vienna and Zurich. The carrier is expected to lease additional capacity in the coming months. In the lead up to the launch of its new routes, the airline is progressively introducing an additional seven weekly flights from Belgrade to London Heathrow, starting today, for a total of sixteen weekly rotations, while it has also rolled out a new option for economy class passengers to bid for a business class upgrade by sending in their offer. The higher the amount, the greater the chance the passenger will experience a trip in business class.

Commenting on its summer expansion the Serbian carrier said, “We've exerted a lot of effort and worked hard to offer our traditional hospitality on flights to a significantly higher number of destinations. We picked each of them by listening to the wishes and needs of our guests. Our primary focus will remain on strong growth and development, improving our services and expanding our reach so we can offer our faithful guests as many options as possible”. As previously reported, the airline will introduce flights from Belgrade to Barcelona, Cairo, Helsinki, Kiev, Krasnodar, Madrid, Nice, Rijeka and Zadar, as well as from Niš to Baden Baden, Bologna, Budapest, Frankfurt Hahn, Friedrichshafen, Gothenburg, Hanover, Ljubljana, Nuremberg, Rome, Salzburg and Tivat.




Comments

  1. Anonymous09:02

    Not in the system yet but the Nis - Salzburg flight will operate Tuesday at 20.00 and Friday at 7.35.

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    1. Anonymous09:08

      They should put those tickets on sale ASAP.

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    2. Anonymous09:35

      INI - LJU ?

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    3. Anonymous09:43

      The Salzburg approach and landing will be very scenic :)

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    4. Anonymous11:24

      INI - LJU why not? A lot Serbs from the south of Serbia live in Slovenia, it could work. Fingers crossed.

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  2. Anonymous09:02

    Ist the LHR service increase long term or meant as a keeper until EY uses the slots again?

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    1. Anonymous09:03

      Long term. Etihad does not need those slots. They already got another two daily slots they have to maintain.

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    2. Anonymous09:04

      Yes although the times of these slots are almost identical with slots that EY already has and it would be unprofitable to try to fill two widebodies that leave LHR within 25 minutes.

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    3. Anonymous09:06

      Aer those slots not the ones used by JetAirways to DEL and owned by Etihad?

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    4. Anonymous09:08

      Currently it has been agreed to be used by JU only until the end of 2019 summer season

      https://www.exyuaviation.com/2019/04/air-serbia-to-take-jet-airways-slots-at.html

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    5. BA88809:11

      I fail to get the logic of adding flights in May for June/July/August.

      Most of the people with enough money to be penalised by £250 return have already arranged their travel plans by now.

      I have tickets for this route and different airlines since Feb (FR and AF).

      I am looking forward to see LF on last minute added flights.

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    6. The LHR Slots Guy09:36

      Truth be told, Etihad had very few realistic options with 3 daily slots of Jet Airways at Heathrow, see the following report: https://simpleflying.com/etihads-newly-acquired-heathrow-slots/

      Etihad is cutting costs and adding 3 daily flights to Heathrow would certainly be loss making for, at least, a period of time.

      Selling or even leasing them was risky because if all paperwork was not completed on time or there were unforeseen delays, there would be a risk of losing them as part of 'use them or lose them' policy at Heathrow.

      So, it appears that they asked (perhaps told) Air Serbia to fill them in for the time being. Air Serbia, as expected, bit the bullet and will have to put up with, at the very least, short term losses on this route. Good might come out of all this, but history tells me to be skeptical, very skeptical.

      This might not be popular to say, but the future will tell who was right and who wasn't.

      Ta,

      The LHR Slots Guy

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    7. The LHR Slots Guy09:37

      BA888, see my post regarding LHR slots when approved by admin. You may find your answer there.

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    8. Anonymous09:42

      Etihad also expanded at Heatrow...

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    9. Anonymous10:49

      Air Serbia is the new European Etihad. State sponsored political megalomanic airline.

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    10. Anonymous10:51

      What is Turkish Airlines then?

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    11. Anonymous10:54

      Jealousy should be treated

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    12. Anonymous10:56

      https://www.argophilia.com/news/croatia-airlines-aid/27511/

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  3. Anonymous09:04

    "there is an administrative condition that needs to be fulfilled"

    Anyone know what it is?

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    1. Anonymous09:05

      It probably has to do with Montnegro not being in EU so they have to get a special permit.

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    2. Anonymous09:06

      *Montenegro sorry

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    3. Anonymous09:20

      lol, they already fly to Monte

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    4. Anonymous09:21

      Yes but from one destination. Now they will be flying from a second.

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    5. Hope Montenegrin authorities will condition them to subsidise YM flights as well.

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    6. Anonymous19:45

      YM flights from Nis were subsidised for years.

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    7. Exactly. Why would Montenegrins let JU fly and not ask for the same treatment for YM.

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    8. Anonymous05:24

      YM could have applied for the subsidy but were too lazy. If Montenegro is not happy to have Nis tourists flown to them and declines JU, Greece or Turkey would be delighted to take those tourists instead.

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  4. Anonymous09:05

    They must make sure that the business class product meets the basic requirements on the London route. Business travellers will be very selective when it comes to this.

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    1. Anonymous09:11

      Business class product is quite good. Hot towels, full meal with menu, alcohol, drinks, sweets, Ipad for entertainment, amenity kit. The only thing that has been downgraded compared to before are the seats which are the same as in economy only with blocked seat in the middle.

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  5. Anonymous09:05

    That is indeed a massive expansion ... hopefully they did not go for more than they can handle. Numbers will boom in Belgrade this summer.

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    1. Anonymous09:07

      Nis too :)

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    2. Anonymous09:18

      Air Serbia's passenger numbers will also increase significantly.

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    3. They basically added around 60 frequencies a week with huge subsidies from the Government.

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  6. Anonymous09:06

    It seems they will base an A320 in Nis!

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    1. Anonymous09:42

      According to Salzburg Airport all flights will be operated by A319 aircraft.

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  7. Anonymous09:08

    Just wonder what the prices will be from Nis to fill an A320? Looking at FR and Wizz, one would assume they are crazy selling more then half the plane´s capacity for less than 10 Eur. If JU manages to fill them for "reasonable" prices, then they can beat Wizz or FR forever.

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    1. Anonymous09:11

      The government said the tickets will be affordable and inexpensive.

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    2. Anonymous09:21

      The government?

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    3. Anonymous09:22

      what has the gov. to do with ticket fares ...

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    4. Anonymous09:22

      Yes, because they are the one subsidising these flights and that's the whole point.

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    5. Anonymous10:01

      The operator of these flights is the republic of Serbia. They can set the prices at they wish, they are paying for it.

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    6. Anonymous10:21

      What is the interest of the Government of Serbia to pay so much for connceting secondary airports? I mean 5 million could be used wiser except for bringing in Diaspora?

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    7. Anonymous10:24

      Well if they were primary airports they would have to give much more money then 5 million. Besides I don't think the airports in Rome, Budapest, Ljubljana, Bologna and Gothenburg are secondary.

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    8. Anonymous10:42

      Rome-Ciampino?

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    9. Anonymous10:45

      It will be Fiumicino.

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    10. Anonymous10:54

      Anon 10:24: None of the cities except Rome even has a secondary airport.

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    11. Anonymous10:55

      Meaning half of the destinations launched will be to main airports so I don't see an issue.

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  8. Anonymous09:09

    Any chance of getting comprehensive article on all changes regarding JU "soft products"?
    You mention here bidding for business class, with introduction of preorder meals they cancel meals in highest economy class, BoB menu is changed....don't know if anything else is changed.

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    1. Anonymous09:28

      BoB has been updated in May 2019:

      https://www.airserbia.com/Data/Files/asl_bob_katalogairbuspreko_80_min.pdf

      Prices are quite reasonable, tbh. Just no Cyrillic :S

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    2. Anonymous09:48

      Yes, I've noticed change during flights in May :)
      Obviously, they are doing some fine tuning in the background. Generally, they are becoming very similar to Air Baltics concept for example.

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    3. Anonymous20:08

      Except the difference is Air Baltic has a modern fleet (once their 737s leave)

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    4. Anonymous23:44

      Yes, sure they did. And they have better BoB offering.
      But, on the other hand, also should be noted that tickets are more expensive and home country has better economics.

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  9. Anonymous09:11

    This expansion will help Air Serbia to cement its position as the biggest ex-Yu air carrier.

    For a long time JU was consolidating its business by not introducing new routes.

    Now it is time to shine again - this is really massive.

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    1. Anonymous09:29

      JU and A3 will be the biggest airlines in the region. JU is now officially bigger than RO.

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    2. Anonymous10:19

      And both are very profitable.

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    3. Anonymous10:43

      https://www.airserbia.com/sv/news?newsplus_news_id=135642&newsplus_topic_id=77910

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    4. Anonymous11:09

      Actually only A3 is profitable. JU is not, it is getting subsidized by the Goverment every single year.

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    5. Anonymous15:23

      BTW, we are sure about JU, that's ok. But, are you sure about A3?

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    6. Aegean is private company not subsidised by the Government.

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    7. Anonymous20:05

      Being private is not equal to - don't receiving subsidies.
      Call it PSO, joint marketing activities, support from tourist council or whatever, those are subsidies in one form or other. I'm not saying that A3 receives any of those but it is legitimate question.

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  10. Anonymous09:12

    Now we wait to see if there will be long haul expansion as well.

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    1. Anonymous09:13

      This is already more than enough

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    2. Anonymous10:12

      Soon :)

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  11. Anonymous09:18

    Nice. I wish them good luck.

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  12. Anonymous09:23

    this is simply too fast

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  13. Anonymous09:24

    I'm really interested to see what they will be doing with the fleet.

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    1. Anonymous09:33

      Will 1 CRJ from Nordica and 1 A320 from Etihad be enough?

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    2. Anonymous09:39

      I am not sure if Etihad's A320 will be able to fly to all the destinations as I remember well that Germany banned YU-API and YU-APJ to fly to that country while they had UAE's registration.

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    3. Anonymous15:00

      These 2 aircrafts until re-registered into YU were not able to fly to Russia either.

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    4. They have sufficient capacity with current fleet.

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  14. Anonymous09:24

    How much subsidies will Air Serbia get from the state?

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    1. Anonymous09:32

      Five million for Nis flights per year.

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    2. Anonymous16:43

      WHat about the subsidies they get for US flights ? WIll this continue ?

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    3. Anonymous16:49

      Yes
      https://www.exyuaviation.com/2018/11/state-to-maintain-support-for-air-serbia.html

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    4. Anonymous20:37

      Thx anon @ 16.43 ... so JU will be receiving 5m / yr (for Nis) and 15m / yr for US flights ... that equals 20m / yr ... WOW ! Not bad eh ?

      It is good on the one hand that the Serbian Govt supports its airline. However, why doesn;t Etihad - the remaining 49% shareholder, support JU in the same way as the Serbian Govt ?

      This means that the Serbian Govt 100% financially supports the airline while ETihad contributes zero financial support yet gets half the benefit of the Govt;s benevolence.

      WHy on God's earth does the Govt need such a 49% shareholder for which they get zero benefit out of ?

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    5. Anonymous00:14

      well, there is probably some nonfinancial support they get from Etihad that we don't know of

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  15. Anonymous09:32

    Very interesting times ahead for Air Serbia. This is quite a big and unexpected expansion.

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  16. Anonymous09:32

    Što bi bila AirSerbia bez Etihad?

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    1. Jat Airways09:41

      Air Serbia without Etihad would be Jat Airways with hundreds of millions of Euros investment from the GoS, but without the knowhow that lost over 7 billion US Dollars in the last 3 years.

      You're welcome.

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    2. Anonymous09:41

      Jat Airways

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    3. Anonymous09:52

      Can Air Serbia be considered a new product or successor? You know, Aeroput > JAT > Jat Airways > Air Serbia. Why wasn't the former name preserved? Finnair and KLM have not changed their names.

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    4. Anonymous09:55

      It's a successor because it took over Jat's IATA codes, agreements, contracts, planes, employees etc. Those that made the name change said it was done because they thought Jat was no longer representative of the country, it had a very bad image abroad and they wanted to brand the country better.

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    5. Anonymous10:00

      Good points. It was a pity not to preserve the name. After all, so much history behind a great airline JAT was for instance.

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    6. Anonymous10:14

      One more argument was that it was too similiar with Jet Airways that was also the part of Etihad group

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    7. Anonymous15:23

      Etihad really demonstrated and transferred a great KNOW HOW knowledge to JU. If so much money was poured into JAT Airways it would have been just as Air Serbia is today (if not better because EY drains even today premium fares for various services).

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    8. Anonymous16:44

      Anon at 15.23 ... like what ?

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  17. JU520 BEGLAX09:33

    75%-85% of these routes wont last. I hve the feeling instead of real professionals that some young academics with no experience were seating over the Europe map and pinning down their dest wish list, other fm that I cant explain this massive but very questionable expansion.

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    1. Anonymous09:38

      I partly agree with you when it comes to Nis expansion as it looks like some strange games were played behind launching Bologna, Hahn, Friedrichshafen and other similiar airports.

      From the other side expansion of Belgrade is natural especially taken in consideration that JU plans to open new destinations in Canada and China and good European network is here of essential importance.Of course it is not possible all of them to be opened with daily frequencies and certain period of market testing is necessary

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    2. Anonymous09:56

      They will survive for 5 years, that's for sure. What is worrying is that Serbia when into an massive expansion on 2 airports and not sure she will be able to sustain such levels.
      And hey, if the government is also considering opening KVO next month, then I have no idea how it will be possible.
      The only markets left uncovered will be the Baltics, Portugal, Canary Islands, Moldova, Iceland and Ukraine. Basically, Serbia will be linked to 90% of Europe.

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    3. Anonymous10:04

      Well they will last until the 5 million are used up. Depending on the amount of money and the riseing costs, that may be over in less than 5 years. What have the assumed for the routes? 80% LF and average price of 50€? Well then it might last 5 years.

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    4. Anonymous10:20

      According to the Fly from Niš Facebook page, people seem to be worried about the eventually high prices they will be paying:

      Miodrag Janković Jedino ako je Air Srbija postala od noćas niskotarifna kompanija, jer koliko juče to nije bila. Prema tome, ovo nema veze s mozgom.

      Slavica Kermaschek Javna korupcija na delu ! Namešten tender !
      ----------------------------

      I think the tender was not presented as it should've been. People from Niš are quite delicate to prices because of the current LCC ticket fares. Even BTS is promoted 4,99€ with FR!!

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    5. Anonymous10:22

      Croatia Airlines isn't a low cost airline but their PSO flights are not expensive because they are covered by the government. Same will be here.

      As for Serbian people and comments, it is in our DNA to constantly complain and whine. If they bought Emirates to fly from Nis to 50 destinations people would still find an issue.

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    6. Anonymous10:25

      Example:

      Low airport tax in INI
      +
      Low airport tax in HHN
      +
      Financial support of GoS
      =
      Attractive price

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    7. Anonymous10:28

      Can't agree more @anon 10:22.

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    8. Anonymous10:37

      Reading the comments, many people say prices are extremely expensive but I can't find any yet on the JU website. Are they only available to local Niš travel agencies? A woman is complaining she wants to visit LJU but the price is 500€, which I find weird.

      Lepša Miljković :( Volim kad nisam u pravu...radovala sam se liniji za Ljubljanu,ali mislim da bih za tu cenu pre stigla do Australije,ubjaju nas na svim poljima,."Šok-cene"
      Još ne,ali sudeći po onome ,što sam juče videla da je do Tivta 500evra a puno bliža destinacija...računam ..još uvek izbegavaju da saopšte,.možda je ta linija samo za političare i "biznismene" ,opet kažem,volela bih da nisam u pravu...

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    9. Anonymous10:38

      PSO is something quite different from what is presented here with JU and INI.

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    10. Anonymous10:39

      People are absolutely bonkers. They are probably doing internet searches without realising that JU tkts are still on sale.

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    11. Anonymous10:40

      There are no prices yet available and above posting you can understand as traditional Serbian sport...complaining
      The prices from Tivat will surely be lower than 100 eur

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    12. Anonymous11:07

      Maybe you are right. They still have no clue about the real prices.
      What shocks me is that many people are mentioning MLA as a destination. It does seem to be the new Serbian hit, now. No wonder why it's doing so well from BEG.
      It is also strange it was not added to the list of destinations.

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    13. Anonymous11:13

      Simply, by introducing INI-MLA they would make additional competition to the route BEG-MLA where JU and W6 are already flying.

      From the other side TIV is only seasonal from INI and 2 weekly can't endanger many JU BEG-TIV flights

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    14. Anonymous12:07

      Technically speaking, there are various competition routes:
      BEG-VIE v INI-VIE+BTS
      BEG-TXL v INI-SXF
      BEG-MXP v INI-BGY.
      BEG-DUS v INI-DTM
      BEG-MUC v INI-FMM
      BEG-CPH v INI-MMX.
      The list can carry on and on.

      This means that if there are 6 weekly flights to MLA, there will be also demand for more from INI.

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    15. Anonymous19:59

      To one of the earlier posters:
      The Croatia Airlines PSOs are only for domestic services, none of the JU supported routes are domestic!

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    16. Anonymous20:02

      Yes because there are no domestic routes in Serbia.

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    17. Anonymous20:26

      The comments on the FFN FB page are all mainly negative and so are the reactions. I do hope the people from the South try to accept the ASL expansion as a positive thing.

      ----
      Staniša Ilić 10. мај 2019. 13:17
      Samo da ubacim komentar da ostane zabelezeno za buduca pokoljenja. Iskreno se nadam da gresim.
      Puno truda je ulozeno da se pobegne od subvencionisanih letova. Ovde se vracamo na taj koncept. Verovatno dok se ne razjure low cost kompanije. Kada se to bude desilo, proglasice se letovi AirSrbije ne rentabilnim i vraticemo niski aerodrom u 1981-vu.
      Imamo maksimalno tri godine da se radujemo , a onda opet za sve zivo u BG.
      I nemoj posle da se zale Beogradjani kako im je guzva po gradu . Kamen na kamenu nece ovde da ostane.
      Ako nista drugo, bar ce deca jeftino da zapale odavde ! A politicari ce svojoj deci da daju rezi karte za avion to Salcburga (od ovih subvencionisanih sedista). Svima ce da bude super.

      -----

      Someone has to travel down and tell those people to first wait and not be so sensitive about the issue. Subsidies are sometimes expensive, but this will help the region grow.

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  18. Anonymous09:52

    Exciting times for Serbian aviation.

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    1. Anonymous10:05

      Yes for the next few years. Than again exciting but the other way round..

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    2. Anonymous10:06

      ^ Wish I had your crystal ball <3

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    3. Anonymous10:11

      No one knows. I do not have a crysatl ball. But looking at the fares that FR or Wizz charge and the general knowledge among travellers, I would assume that JU flying from secondary cities can only rely on diaspora flying p2p. I just wonder why FR or Wizz cant make those routes work and JU can? But I can be completely wrong...

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    4. Anonymous10:15

      Very simple. They do not have financial support of GoS.

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  19. Anonymous10:02

    How many passengers can Air Serbia realistically expect this year?

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    1. Anonymous10:07

      1-1,5 million passengers approximately.
      Those were the results for previous years:

      https://www.exyuaviation.com/2018/11/ex-yu-airlines-handle-52-million.html

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    2. Anonymous10:09

      Air Serbia handled over 2 million passengers in 2017 and you expect they will have 1 million passengers this year with 21 new routes... Right.

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    3. Anonymous10:26

      Only INI will have 300 thousand with the new routes, let alone the BEG expansion and existing routes in the network. Ok, maybe not 1 million but around 850,000.

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    4. Anonymous10:28

      Maybe we didn't understand each other. I thought you meant they will in total have 1 to 1.5 million passengers this year.

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  20. Anonymous10:08

    Cancel Budapest

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    1. Anonymous10:19

      Many people thought Wizz's flights from Budapest to Pristina, Podgorica, Skopje and Sarajevo would not work either but they have proven really successful.

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    2. Anonymous10:24

      BUD is one of the most visited cities in Europe. What are you talking about?
      It's a year-round destination: tourism, study, science, spa, business, culinary, New Year, also considered a romantic destination.
      INI-BUD will definitely work, if not increased to 4 weekly next summer.

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    3. Anonymous11:37

      Yes I am sure INI residents will pay to visit Budapest for its cuisine and its museums...

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    4. Anonymous11:54

      @Anon 11:37

      No, we're all barbarians down here in the south living on bread, salt and water. FFS

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    5. Anonymous18:49

      The South cannot be compared to BUD. There you have castles, cuisine, pálinka, River Danube, historic buildings, universities, trams, etc.
      BUD also is home to one of the largest synagogues in the world.

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    6. Anonymous19:47

      The only difference is Hungary is paying for those flights from Pristina, Skopje, Podgorica. Why should Serbia pay so for Serbs to visit Budapest?

      As usual Serbia gets the worst deal.

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    7. Anonymous00:19

      you do know that they will sell tickets from BUD as well?

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    8. Anonymous09:35

      Yeah, and how many people will buy them?

      Don't be ridiculous.

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  21. Anonymous10:17

    Are they obliged to fly all the routes from Nis during the time of financial support?

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  22. Anonymous11:12

    This is the single biggest expansion an ex-yu airline has ever attempted.

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  23. Доста промена се догађа у ваздушнном саобраћају Србије.
    Због повећања саобраћаја који следује због концесионара
    и повећања конкуренције на аеродрому Београд. Ер Србија има могућност да развија секундарне аеродроме Ниша и Краљева за сада. Проблем је што Ер Србија нема
    авиона између 80 и 120 седишта. Већи број путника је теже пунити и у Краљеву и убудуће на Пониквама. У сезони ће моћи и Ербаси А320, али ван сезоне није реално. Бар за идућих пет година. Доста ће се поправити могућности доласком инвеститора и развоја приватног бизниса у Крагујевцу, Чачку, Краљеву и околним градовима...
    За веровати је да у развоју ваздушног саобраћаја у саставу
    Аеродроми Србије, Влада Србије има оствсрљиву стратегију.
    Једноставно Ниш са југоисточном Србијом и Краљево са централном Србијом имају потенцијале који ће се успешно остварити у долазећој декади. Секундарни авио саобраћај ће заживети између Јадранског и Црног мора. Многи ће ме негирати због оваке процене. Ипак многи су негирали и Нишки и Краљевачки аеродром. Живот иде напред. Са њиме
    И промене и кретања путника и карго саобраћаја.
    Неверовање не зауставља промене. Вера мења и остварује.
    Спорије или брже. Зависно у коме делу света се догађа.
    Из Сиднеја.
    Радован. ☺✈✨✈🔅✈🌎✈🌏✈🌍✈☺😇💒☺✈

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  24. Anonymous12:32

    After what I've experienced yesterday at Belgrade Airport, both Air Serbia and the Airport under Vinci management have a long way to make their service brought to the levels of professional management.
    As you all know, initially Air Serbia managed its own check-in at Belgrade Airport. Then they handed over the process (and if I recall well staff) to the Airport which remained unchanged after Vinci took over.
    Yesterday around noon time, I arrived to Air Serbia Premium check-in counters (301-302). Only one of the counters was operational with a group of 6 passengers queued. It took a while, so the person at counter 301 suggested that I change to the regular check-in counter starting with counter 303. Since I had two large pieces of luggage, each one at around 20 kg, I opted to stay in the Premium queue as navigating back and then through the roped way to regular check-in counters would take a significant effort and time. While deliberating whether to do this effort and looking around the way back and through, I realized that 6 Vinci employees were chatting in 2 groups of 3. I asked the group standing closer to me whether one of them could assume work and occupy Premium counter 302. As an average Serbian reader of these line could only presume, a chorus of 3 voices in sync started shouting how it was not their business to attend the check-in counters. I protested that they were otherwise chatting and remained unengaged in business they get paid for, most notably through the taxes charged to passengers, a Hell came upon me, threats that Police would be called (when I reached to my phone to record their behavior), challenging me with all sorts of descent and less descent vocabulary. I asked to speak to Supervisor, only to learn that one of the three involved was the one. Then the group broke, one of the three went to assume his role at counter 303, the "Supervisor" went for help of the Police, and the tall and blond female returned to her phone. I reminded her that her private phone activity should not be a part of her business during office hours, and she again threatened me with the Police. I concluded that all three of them were extremely ready to defend their right to get paid while not working, including all sorts of threats with the Police, yet I saw no traces of understanding what their work obligations were. Finally, the "Supervisor" came back to talk to me, and I asked to talk to the rep of Air Serbia, who after all, I had a contract with, as part of passenger ticket. Air Serbia Supervisor promised that he would report the case to the Airline, by which time I was at the check-in counter to finally complete check-in for my flight to Sarajevo. The rest of the experience, including fast track passport control and the hospitality at Air Serbia Premium Lounge was excellent.
    It is unfortune that Vinci is doing nothing to get unruly bunch of the Airport employees under some sort of order. More training, clients' needs awareness and discipline among the staff is urgently needed as part of their service model.

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    1. Anonymous12:40

      Not very nice, remind me of BA at the Heathrow. They are publishing written warning at the counter, that the raise of voice would be considered as an attack to their personnel. And they have two ladies working with more than 20 annoyed people waiting in a queue, for the same reason - overbooking. So, this must be a reality of the airline business today.

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    2. Anonymous12:45

      First world problems, to say the least.

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    3. Anonymous13:47

      "I protested that they were otherwise chatting and remained unengaged in business they get paid for, most notably through the taxes charged to passengers"

      This is at least as inappropriate a comment as the employees' behaviour. They could have been on a break, or finished their shifts already. Also, if they started threatening police, I'm pretty sure you did more than just remark.

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    4. Anonymous15:17

      Anon 12:32 ... Cesto biva da napolju ispred zgrade u "pusionici" ima vise zaposlenih nego na salterima...pa moze im se, Srbija je to i na zalost nikada se nece promeniti. A ni Vinci nije nista posebno uradio evo za 5 meseci jedina promena je sto su zaposlenima oko vrata zakacili nove propustnice, ukinuli nazvanje Nikole Tesle (ili ga max sacinili nevidljivim) i promenili www (na goru verziju u odnosu na prethodnu). Sve strucnjaci ....

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    5. Anonymous17:15

      In well organized companies, staff break area exists, and it is not within public view, so Anonymous comment at 15:17 is not in place.

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    6. Anonymous20:09

      This is not unique situation, I have witnessed same several times.
      Also, there is an issue with police at passport control station, both departure and arrivals. Several times there was a very long line of people waiting for control at departures but only 1 or 2 booths were open. And by very long I don't think 10 but 70-80 or more.

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  25. Anonymous15:04

    When will the schedule and flight numbers will be known?

    Br, 8.

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  26. Anonymous15:06



    Jos Toronto,Peking i Cikago i AS postaje ozbiljan igrac.Srecno.

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    1. Anonymous15:19

      SIN / SYD (ili MEL) pa da pocnemo da pricamo o necemu gde smo bili pre 30 godina! ))

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    2. Anonymous15:26

      Pre 30 godina su mmoge evropske kompanije letele za Australiju. Danas jedna. Promenio se svet od pre 30 godina.

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    3. Anonymous15:52

      Etihad ne bi dozvolio da se sire na istok.

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  27. Draga Saveta17:15

    Air Serbia haters, I am glad to help answer your questions:

    Q1: "Etihad making a lot of money by leasing LHR slots to JU"
    A1: LOL, if that was true why would they make money from leasing only one daily slot to JU but not forcing JU to use and pay for all three daily slots, EY would make 3x more $$$ that way! Haters are wrong again, EY just needs to use LHR slots until slot buyer is found and JU getting slots for the summer is win win for both.
    Q2: "INI routes are dead after 5 years"
    A2: LOL, that's exactly what haters said about Air Serbia in 2013 when Etihad deal was announced. Five years later JU is adding 21 new routes and new A319 (you will read about that soon) while haters were proven wrong. There is no reason INI will be any different, subsidy model is likely to continue and probably grow bigger in 5 years.
    Q3: "JAT would be better than Air Serbia if old management was given 100's of millions"
    A3: LOL, first thing new investors anywhere around the world do during takeovers of failed companies is to FIRE most of key managers as they have proven incompetence. Once new management is in place money starts to flow. If JAT CEOs during the last 10 years of JAT were any good, they would be at C level jobs at other airlines around the world. But they are not.

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    1. Anonymous17:25

      APK is ready

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    2. JU will survive for 15 or 25 years more if there is Government in place ready to support it financially.

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    3. Anonymous20:28

      If EY abandons JU, there is always SU to rescue it. JU will never be alone.

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    4. Anonymous20:43

      What rubbish are you talking about ??

      Etihad doesn't support JU at all. It is the Serbian Govt which keeps on contributing to the airline. First with the 15m per year marketing support for the US flights. Now 5m per year for the Nis flights and so on and so on. Etihad contributes ZERO yet gets 49% of the benefit. JU even pays for the salaries of all the Etihad people still in JU.

      So in truth, JU has no material benefit of Etihad's ongoing "involvment" in the airline. The real key is the Serbian Govt and they have shown that they will continue to find creative ways of supporting the airline - and that is the crux of the matter

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    5. Anonymous00:03

      Crux of the matter??? Polish government helped restructure LOT. Hungary is providing subsidy to Wizz to operate some BUD Balkan routes. Montenegro government is supporting Montenegro Airlines. Croatia is looking for ways to help privatize OU. Wizz is getting regular subsidies at SKP. Merkel went to Abu Dhabi to arrange closure of Air Berlin. All of this is legal.

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  28. Anonymous23:09

    Does anyone know what happened to JU's Wi-Fly on board entertainment service? Flew to London and back a couple weeks ago and it didn't work at all in either direction...

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