Air Serbia to boost winter operations


Air Serbia will be adding a number of frequencies this coming winter season, which begins on October 27, in addition to the eighteen new routes which are to be maintained from Belgrade and Niš. The carrier will be introducing additional flights from the Serbian capital to Bucharest, Larnaca, Thessaloniki, Tirana and Venice. As a result, services to both the Albanian and Romanian capitals will be maintained on a daily basis, while flights to Thessaloniki will operate five times per week, to Venice three times per week and to Larnaca twice weekly. The airline will also continue to run its newly launched year-round operations from Belgrade to Barcelona, Cairo, Helsinki, Kiev, Krasnodar, Madrid and Rijeka. It will keep the same summer frequencies for most new routes over the winter as well.

This winter season, Air Serbia will have an additional Airbus A319 aircraft at its disposal, enabling it to maintain services from Niš Airport to eleven cities. As a result, the airline will add the most new routes to its destination network among Europe's flag carriers this winter season, which runs until March 29, 2020. Air Serbia’s new routes to Spain, Helsinki and Krasnodar have proved particularly successful this summer. The Serbian carrier is also putting more business class tickets on sale within its short haul network. It is now offering up to twelve business class seats for sale per flight amid an increase in premium travel.

The airline’s CEO, Duncan Naysmith, previously noted, “We are very happy because we managed to significantly improve the functionality of our network, through careful selection of destinations, and in accordance with our passengers’ desires and the strategic plans for further expansion”. He added, “By expanding the Air Serbia international network, our national airline provides strong support for our economy and drives tourism growth". The company’s Corporate Communications Manager, Nikola Vukmanović, said recently, “It is important to note that we expect to significantly increase our overall passenger numbers this year thanks to these new routes”.




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  1. Anonymous09:01

    Nice to see them growing after so many years.

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    1. Anonymous09:48

      Agree. Two years ago it was a very different story.
      https://www.exyuaviation.com/2017/09/air-serbia-to-consolidate-winter.html

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    2. Anonymous10:14

      Seems to me that Air Serbia is trying.
      Going up and down, but trying.

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  2. Anonymous09:02

    So KRR is staying three weekly even in winter?! WOW that was such a smart choice of destination.

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    1. Anonymous09:03

      Yep. Apparently lot of transfers on this route.

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    2. Anonymous09:05

      EY has also started codesharing on BEG-KRR-BEG.

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    3. Anonymous16:25

      At the moment the Amadeus-GDS does not show any more JU BEG-KRR flights for the coming winter season. Will the BEG-KRR route get seasonal ?

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    4. Anonymous12:03

      Krasnodar is on sale for winter.

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  3. Anonymous09:03

    Interesting that Venice is also increased.

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  4. Anonymous09:06

    Bravo Taxpayers!

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    1. Taxpayer who doesn't mind.09:09

      At least we know what we are paying for and it's something we all benefit from.

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    2. Anonymous10:00

      LOL!
      Sure we are. Especially those of us who are not getting payed from other people's taxes!

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    3. Anonymous10:15

      If you are not then it mean that you don't travel in general so your opinion doesn't really matter on such topics.

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    4. Anonymous10:19

      I wonder where you were when it was discussed about PSO given to OU. It is also money of some taxpayer!

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    5. Anonymous10:38

      Because the Croats do it then so should we?
      You know that you have no arguments when you just say, the other kid did it to like a 6 year old...

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    6. Anonymous10:47

      No, it simply means it has been recognized in Croatia as well that air transport is a fuel for economincal development and that every euro invested in that branch gets at least returned on one way or another.

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    7. Anonymous11:27

      Serbia benefits from it as well. JU launched HEL flights and in July we had 677 tourists which is 68% more. JU launched MAD and BCN and in July 2.047 tourists from Spain which is an increase of 38%.

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  5. Anonymous09:08

    Nice to see LCA back to 2 weekly. What was the point of them pulling out last year?

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  6. Anonymous09:09

    I hope they will be able to handle 3 million passengers this year.

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    1. Anonymous09:57

      Does anyone know their average cabin LF this year?

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    2. Anonymous10:18

      They are filling US and other flights. Economy ticket to Tirana was around 500 EUR two weeks ago!

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    3. Anonymous11:01

      That's what's so great about the Atr, costs are so low that they can offer cheap tickets. Not to mention that they can send the Atrs they own to TIA increasing profits on the route.

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  7. Anonymous09:09

    Who uses the Tirana flight? Is there serbian tourism in albania?

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    1. Anonymous09:10

      A lot of Albanians use it for transfer, especially to New York.

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    2. Nemjee09:13

      BEG is becoming increasingly popular as a transfer airport. This summer JU was even sending full A319s to Tirana. Hopefully the route matures even more in order to become double daily next summer.

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    3. Anonymous09:20

      Also, there`s a number of business people who use the route.

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    4. Anonymous10:22

      Big majority of the people from TIA use BEG as transit point for some further destinations.

      I was quite surprised seeing few times Albanian passport holders on flights BEG-FRA.

      From the other side political relations are not quite good so there are no touristic toures or much developed business relations.

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    5. Anonymous10:52

      In 2017 Serbia exported €157 million to Albania which is an increase of 34%. I think business ties are growing, that's for sure.

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    6. Anonymous10:59

      indeed, $150 mio. annual exports to Albania is a very viable explanation that Albanians use BEG for their travels.

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    7. Anonymous11:27

      I think the 157 million Euros indicates that there is some sort of business travel demand between BEG and TIA.

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    8. Anonymous13:31

      Albania is full of Serbian products.

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    9. Anonymous16:24

      A lot of tourists are visiting the Albanian Riviera for summer holidays too.

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    10. Anonymous16:42

      Exactly and that is why JU flies to TIA and why it doesn't even try to start flying to PRN.

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    11. Anonymous18:10

      This summer JU had 9 weekly to Tirana many times on the A319. I hope more flights are added next summer, maybe 12?

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  8. Anonymous09:12

    And many here said Venice wouldn't last.

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    1. Nemjee09:14

      Many were saying many things on here, most of which were nonsense.

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    2. Anonymous10:23

      Honestly I am quite surprised by KRR.

      I was one of them believing it won't work and I am so glad I was wrong!

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  9. Anonymous09:14

    Most of the frequency increases are basically returning frequencies to the same levels they were 2-3 years ago.

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    1. Anonymous09:16

      Are you sure most of them are? I don't remember seeing BCN, MAD, KRR, HEL, KBP... served 2-3 years ago?

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    2. Anonymous09:18

      I wasn't talking about the new routes.

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    3. Anonymous09:26

      Yet that's not what you wrote up there.

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    4. Anonymous09:29

      Yet that's what I meant. Chill out.

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    5. Anonymous09:31

      Well we are not able to read your mind so please my friend be more precise :3

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  10. Anonymous09:17

    Will they have 2 or 3 flights to MAD and BCN?

    This schedule just shows how the entire region has seasonality issues. Good thing OTP and TIA are going daily, JU has established itself over there.

    SKG has a huge drop, from 14 to 5

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    1. Anonymous09:19

      2 weekly to MAD and BCN like it was for most of summer. My guess is the flights will go to 3 weekly all of next summer.

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    2. Anonymous09:27

      SKG airport is not doing that well this year so the fact JU is increasing it in winter shows how well they must be doing there.

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    3. Anonymous09:44

      More Spanish routes needs to be introduced:

      AGP, PMI, LPA and possibly BIO.

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    4. Anonymous10:03

      Seems like Spain has performed really well for them.

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    5. Anonymous10:24

      PMI is already flown with charters during summer

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    6. Anonymous10:49

      Spain is already the second most visited country in Europe, after France so there is absolutely no excuse for JU not to boost the flights to this marvellous country.
      JU must collaborate with UX in MAD similar to what RO did and increase more flights to MAD.
      MAD must be at least daily.
      BCN is more touristic and can be boosted in summer.

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    7. Anonymous11:06

      I agree with you about Spain, but we should not forget that Spain is mostly visited by western people as this country is not far from France, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Italy etc.

      But for JU flying daily BEG-MAD would mean that they rotation would take at least 7,5 hours due to the fact that MAD is Air Serbia's farest European destination.

      Let's not forget that one of the reasons for BEG-AUH cancellation was too long rotation of the plane that could be better utilised on some shorter European destination.

      Of course MAD is much closer to BEG than AUH, but I am not sure that so many flights to Spain would be financially justified.

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    8. Anonymous11:29

      MAD is absolutely safe, it also got a third weekly flight and the flight is two hours shorter than AUH.

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    9. Anonymous13:34

      Actually MAD performed better than Barcelona this summer.

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    10. Anonymous18:40

      5x weekly Madrid and
      5x weekly Barcelona in summer would be nice ...

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    11. Anonymous19:33

      MAD is a 5 million city and there is no reason for JU not to have more flights.
      There are at least 3 daily flights from OTP but this is because of the huge Romanian diaspora in Spain.
      RO used to have codeshare with IB but apparently ditched it and swapped with UX because of SkyTeam.
      JU is unofficially SkyTeam because it already replaces AF/KL + OK on the PRG route.
      What JU also needs to do is to partner with DL and possibly launch ATL instead of useless YYZ.

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    12. Anonymous21:16

      I think biggest issue with MAD is that it's a bit too far so connections are limited. If it was 20 minutes shorter it would have been perfect.

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  11. Anonymous09:22

    Very good news that C class bookings are up. That's where the money is made.

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  12. Anonymous09:23

    Od novo uvedwnih linija jedino krasnodar ostaje 3X,Kijev i Helsinki idu na 2 nedeljno.Lepo je videti da se Tirana vraca na svakodnevni mada sam pre ocekivao Bukurest. Sve u svemu bice ovo jaka zima za AS a sledece sto ocekujemo je najava novih prekookeanskih letova. Do marta ih moraju pokrenuti jer tada Lot krece iz Budimpeste.

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    1. Anonymous09:25

      I Kijev i Helsinki su 3 puta nedeljno u sistemu.

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    2. Anonymous09:28

      Let's see if they get more flights next summer if they performed so well.

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    3. Anonymous09:30

      MAD and BCN were already increased to 3 weekly this August.

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    4. Anonymous09:33

      U rezervacionom sistemu stoji KIjev- cetvrtak i nedelja,Helsinki utorak i petak. Red letenja su izbacili sa sajtan sto je glupo.

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  13. Anonymous09:25

    I’m so much surprised that Tirana did become a success story for AS. Started out as 3 flights per week and now daily during winter time. Brilliant!

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  14. Anonymous09:30

    The major problem for JU is the fleet. What will they do next summer? With the current fleet they can't grow any more.

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    1. Anonymous09:38

      They'll probably add more planes like this year.

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    2. Anonymous09:41

      You can lease a plane whenever you want ... Theoretically they can lease out a new place in spring from EY ... or anyone else.

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    3. Anonymous10:26

      Yes, it is correct.

      Just...Sooner or later they will need to decide what they will be doing with 3xB733. If they plan to replace them all at once with 3xB738 for example it might be quite a big financial impact for JU

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    4. Anonymous11:26

      Why would they replace them with Boeings, it makes more sense to go with Airbus to be aligned with rest of fleet?
      In that way they would have one type less in fleet, and it will be possible to introduce some smaller regional jets in the future (non-Airbus).

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    5. Anonymous11:30

      Or they can just get 3 A319s and get it over with.

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    6. Anonymous11:38

      I based my opinion about Boeing planes on the fact that they constantly keep looking for B737 pilots.

      https://www.airserbia.com/footer_menu/kompanija/karijera/rad-u-er-srbiji/zaposlenje

      So, during the winter they do not need so many Aviolet planes / flights and from the other side I am not sure if YU-AND, YU-ANK and YU-ANI would be able to fly 2020 summer season.

      Therefore it was logical for me B738 to be leased.


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    7. Anonymous12:05

      But if they have all Airbus fleet they would not need to look for 737 pilots and instead use one type and use any pilot they already have. Makes sense?

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    8. Anonymous12:25

      Obviously it is not their intention

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    9. Anonymous12:31

      737 pilots are generally older, younger ones have transitioned to Airbus while many keep on getting retired.

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    10. Anonymous17:56

      It would be good to keep the 733 flying as long as possible so they can jump start the airline timetable when some newer equipment goes tech (read computer bazook).

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  15. Anonymous09:36

    I am still surprised that the early morning flights from SOF are not resumed.
    JU has really good prices and transfer times in SOF.
    I still think they can additionally resume VAR. TK already increased flights and even increased capacity.

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  16. Anonymous09:38

    No info on long haul? Mr Prez asked Chinese few days ago to reopen BEG-PEK service, which indicates Air Serbia won't be flying it. Is Air Serbia giving up on long haul expansion?

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    1. Anonymous09:43

      Mozda im Etihad neda da se sire na Istok?

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    2. Anonymous09:49

      What's the excuse for West side destinations?

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    3. Anonymous09:59

      Etihad doesn't care, JU needs to first consolidate its short-haul network which they can do with the planes they have now.

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    4. Anonymous10:27

      Exactly.

      It looks like JFK is still not in black and bringing one or two more long haul routes would simply cancel all the positive effects of newly introduced flights to BCN, MAD, HEL, KRR etc.

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    5. Anonymous11:29

      @Anon 10:27
      There is no point in keeping one long haul route, that is really unsustainable. Either introduce new routes and improve airplane utilization or leave that market.
      It looks that regional network is becoming stronger so long haul expansion might be considered.

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    6. Anonymous11:40

      Maybe I was not clear in my post at 10:27 and therefore I apologize.

      My opinion is that it is too early now for new long haul as many new, successful routes have just been launched. Let's give a time to BCN, MAD, HEL, KRR to mature and then to start flying to YYZ or PVG beside JFK

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    7. Anonymous12:36

      Direktor aerodroma u Torontu je prosle god. reko da se pregovara sa AS oko direktnih letova ali je realno da otpocnu 2020 god. Zasto mu ne bi smo verovali?

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    8. Anonymous15:47

      No doubt airport and bilaterals are ready, it's Air Serbia that seems not ready. Air Italy quickly launched Milan-Toronto this year but Air Serbia doesn't have second aircraft and no published plans to launch it for 2020 summer season. If they are also asking other airlines to take over potential long haul destinations like PEK, it could indicate Air Serbia is done with long haul. Let's see if Air Canada Rouge/Transat have interest in flying to Belgrade, they usually announce new European destinations in Sep/Oct timeframe.

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  17. Anonymous09:50

    All praise for Air Serbia. I came to visit relatives in Prokuplje this summer, from Montenegro, and used it to travel from Nis to Hanover. We are more than pleased with all that Air Serbia has provided us. Nothing without a national carrier!

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  18. Anonymous09:55

    They will have to find a way to effectively compete against LCCs. They are being challenged on more and more routes which is great for consumers. I wonder if it would be viable for them to open their own LCC.

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    1. Anonymous10:00

      Huh? You do realize that JU is growing while W6 is stagnating. Not to mention that JU attacked VY in BCN and managed to take a large piece of their cake. easyJet attacked them on TXL and they defended their market really well especially since easyJet is reducing TXL BEG this winter. I think JU is doing quite well.

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    2. EasyJet won't be reducing TXL BEG in winter, their Wednesday flight is being replaced by a Thursday flight

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    3. Anonymous11:32

      easyJet revised their timetable, it will be 3 weekly from 11.11 to 24.02. Outside those periods it's 4 weekly.

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    4. Anonymous15:17

      I think EasyJet has better LF on their flight that AS. Most of mine friends came to Berlin via EasyJet this year and the plane was always full. Also none of the flights came on time. Also EasyJet goes to TXL terminal C where you have to wait in a long queue for police control if you're not EU.

      On the other side I used AirSerbia 3 times this year on this route. It was cheaper than EasyJet, the departure time is more convenient for someone who works here (Friday evening flight, early return, not sure on Monday or Tuesday) and the most important flies to Terminal A where each gate has their own passport control.

      Anyway it's good to have choice and prices are quite reasonable.

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  19. Anonymous09:56

    Whatever you may think of them (since this airline seems to stir up so many emotions for some people on here - good and bad) they have come a looong way from the airline they replaced.

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    1. Anonymous10:12

      What I expect to see in the next few years

      - Replacement of ATRs
      - Retirement of B733
      - 2-3 new routes in Europe
      - Continue down the road of LCC/hybrid model

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    2. Anonymous10:17

      Agreed, but hopefully more than 2-3 new routes. There are still many untapped markets and room for frequency upgrades.

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    3. Nemjee10:18

      I think water plus chips/chocolate is a decent enough combination. It's not nothing but you still get something onboard. Also visually it's better than those horrible little fish. This year they already replaced YU-ANJ with YU-APK so hopefully this trend continues in the future.

      Btw the interior of YU-APK still has Cobalt's cabin, hopefully they reconfigure it this winter season.

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    4. Anonymous10:20

      Which new routes/frequency increases could they add?

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    5. Anonymous10:23

      Agree with you Nemjee,

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    6. Anonymous10:24

      @10.20
      Pristina, Munich, Tehran, to name a few. And yes I realise issue with PRN and that it won't start until some deal is made on a political level.

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    7. Anonymous10:36

      MUC too big competition with LH
      IKA too far and quite unstable with ongoing sanctions and issues

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    8. Anonymous10:43

      How is it that JU can survive in FRA and not in MUC?

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    9. Anonymous10:44

      No need JU to go in fight with LH for MUC

      There are so many other airports in Germany where only JU flies to (DUS, HAJ, FKB, NUE, HHN, STR, TXL) so there is no need to "cacka mecku" in MUC

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    10. Anonymous11:08

      Reintroduce BEG to BUD, WAW and seasonal VAR. Try NAP, HER and MRS seasonal too.

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    11. Anonymous11:33

      JU needs to look beyond ex-YU to grow, KRR, BCN, MAD, HEL are best proof of that. That's where the real money is.

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    12. Anonymous08:03

      HER is already there for charters

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    13. Anonymous09:02

      They should make it a scheduled destination on JU and offer transfers to it. HER is busier than SKG, we can make it work like it.

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  20. Anonymous10:01

    Good luck in winter. Looks like it will be a busy one.

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  21. Anonymous10:09

    It's good to see that they have sustained all the new routes and that we didn't see an Adria-like scenario.

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    1. Anonymous10:12

      +1

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    2. Nemjee10:20

      What's interesting is that KRR will have as many flights this winter as BEY. This only goes to show what potential such routes have for an airline like JU. It also helps that UIA, the queen of cheap fares, is blocked from such markets allowing JU to consolidate its position as a relevant player there.

      The Ukrainian-Russian cold war is also good for JU which has transfers from Kiev to Moscow.

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    3. Anonymous10:37

      Nemjee,
      Are there really passengers who fly KBP-BEG-SVO?
      I mean, we all know there are no direct air links between Russian and Ukrainan capital but for transfers there are some much more logical transfer solutions like

      KBP-WAW-SVO
      KBP-PRG-SVO
      KBP-RIX-SVO
      KBP-MSQ-SVO

      etc

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    4. Anonymous10:56

      How come PRG (or WAW) is more logical to you than BEG? Have you seen the map?

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    5. Anonymous11:24

      I am living on planet Earth and on my planet these are the distances:

      KBP - WAW - SVO = 1875 km

      KBP - BEG - SVO = 2732 km

      PRG is more logical choice for flights KBP-SVO due to the fact it has more-less same flying distance, as via BEG but from the other side OK flies 10 pw to Ukrainian capital and JU flies only 3 pw.

      I hope it is clear now.

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    6. Anonymous11:29

      800km is roughly 1h flying time. That is insignificant if the connection times are good. Most of people fly even via FRA/MUC. How come that doesn't stun your poor logic?

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    7. Anonymous11:36

      PRG is a disastrous for KBP-MOW. €381 is the cheapest with a 17 hour connections. All others are over €450.

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    8. Anonymous11:38

      @Nemjee 10:20
      Hmm, story with UIA "queen of cheap fares" in not that simple. For some period I was in situation to often check their prices:
      -they are quite cheap if you buy let say 4 week in advance
      -in some point prices are going up, very fast
      -fares to "sunny" destination (GR, CY, ES) can be very, very expensive

      Also, their baggage policy is quite strict. There are also some alternatives for that market (ie. SkyUp) but generally speaking, market is big and underserved so this is very good move by JU.

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    9. Anonymous12:08

      @anon 11:29

      First of all you should mind your own words no matter how desperate you might be.

      The way via BEG is 850 km longer than connection via WAW. It is whole BEG-ATH flight.

      Connnection possibilities can't be better for passengers via BEG as JU offers only 3 pw.
      LO offers 14 WAW-KBP rotations per week.

      And you mentioned FRA and MUC.
      They have each around 20 weekly connections - much more than BEG

      So, to conclude this topic:

      Sometimes it is better to use longer flights if there are more connections (not case with JU).
      If there is same number of connections you use those mostly those that are shorter (not case with JU).

      And Air Serbia does not belong to each of these categories for KBP-SVO flights

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    10. Nemjee12:21

      Jesus Christ, they have some passengers per flight, it's not like they are filling an A330 with transfers from KBP going to SVO. Some people on here really need to take a breath and calm down. The market from Kiev to Moscow is massive so there is room for everyone.

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    11. Anonymous12:31

      Beside LOT, Air Baltic and Lufthansa I highly doubt any other airline has anything more than peantus on this route

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    12. Nemjee12:33

      You honestly think Lufthansa carries more passengers from Kiev to Moscow than Belavia? I have a hard time believing that.

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    13. Anonymous12:42

      His point was to say JU does not and cannot carry passengers between Kiev and Moscow. Obviously, he is damn wrong. JU does carry transfers. The other point where JU has an edge is KRR, that you all forget.

      Besides, the main players between Kiev and Moscow are Belavia and Air Moldova.

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    14. Anonymous12:42

      You are right, I forgot to add Belavia to the list

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    15. Anonymous12:48

      ...and BT*

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    16. Nemjee12:50

      Love them or hate them but now that EY is out of the picture newly launched destinations seem to be performing well. This is probably because JU is in charge of the schedule and pricing so they are no longer ripping off O&D passengers. Remember the promo for BUD for €168? That was EY.

      BUD, KBP, WAW, VAR... were all destinations that were discontinued under EY management. Air Serbia is growing and expanding and that's the right way forward for them. They need the volume. As for KRR, July to August average LF grew by some 8%.

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    17. Anonymous12:52

      Obviously? What a strong argument.

      Please try to book KBP-SVO flight on JU internet page, for example in October, and return here to let us know if you managed to do it.

      Air Moldova with 7 pw? Obviously main player :-)



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    18. Anonymous12:55

      PS (Anon 12:08):
      Connections have nothing to do with frequencies but with departure banks and how waves are arranged.

      If say Kiev and Moscow are in the same departure bank from PRG it means on most days where they don't fly double daily connections will be close to 24h.

      Given it's three weekly their connections are pretty much the same as JU.

      I hope i helped make this more clear for you.

      If you need more help let me know.

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    19. Anonymous13:04

      JU works with travel agencies that's how they sell KBP MOW.

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    20. Anonymous13:07

      JU has code on SU flights from BEG, don't forget that. They also sell flights on thse from KBP.

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    21. Anonymous13:13

      Anon 12:55

      Please do not forget that Czech Airlines has code-share with UIA (that JU does not have) and that fact provides them much more connecting possibilities than flying only on their metal during their waves.

      So comparision between OK and JU on this route is actually not possible.

      I hope I managed to complement your already huge aviation knowledge.

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    22. Anonymous13:13

      @Anon 12:08

      You obviously forget Ukraine is not just one city. Air Moldova became a significant player once Aeroflot moved from Odessa. They often fly A321 to Moscow.

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    23. Anonymous13:21

      Why are you ignoring the JU-SU codeshare?

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    24. Anonymous13:21

      Anon @ 13:13

      I reacted on this statement
      "Besides, the main players between Kiev and Moscow are Belavia and Air Moldova."

      It was mentioned Kiew and not Ukraine, so I provided my reply accordingly.

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    25. Anonymous13:22

      Actually you are the one who started comparing JU and OK on this route so are you going against your whole point?

      First you started with detour, now with frequencies but while oblivious to the obvious: PRICE.

      JU DOES have pax from Kiev to Moscow, among other destinations. Be it for price, connections or time.

      Talking about price, currently AF is offering cheapest flights from Moscow to Kiev.

      Are you gonna say they don't have pax to Kiev as well cause Paris is too far??!

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    26. Anonymous13:25

      I see that BT offers the best prices and connections.

      Regarding to your other questions please read once again carefully my comments. Thank you.

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    27. Anonymous13:38

      Then next time keep it to yourself.

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    28. Anonymous13:41

      To keep what?

      Calm down, smell the roses

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    29. Anonymous14:20

      Hilarious how people on here always find excuses why JU cant do something yet at the end of the day they keep on growing more and more. #zavist

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    30. Anonymous17:50

      For Kiev to Moscow, one can realistically, ie without much backtracking, use only Belavia (5 daily from Kiev to Minsk, counting in both KBP and IEV) or LOT (4 daily from Kiev to Warsaw, counting in both KBP and IEV).

      Otherwise it is only on dirty cheap price and pls remember that UIA had some 100 mln euro loss last year because of the dirty cheap prices it offered. This business is not only about the number of pax, but also about fares. If somebody is happy to take the passenger for much less for a 1000 km longer ride, it can hardly be profitable.

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    31. Anonymous07:54

      Finally reasonable comment.

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    32. Anonymous10:03

      @17:50

      That's the problem of Air France.

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  22. Anonymous10:33

    Who would have thought that always problematic Serbian national carrier (no matter how called) would be starting so successful development?

    It looks like they finally found appropriate business model and that after Turkish and Aegean become the most important players in whole Balkan region. And all of it in situation where Serbia is not EU member, where Serbia does not have for example the population of Romania or the sea coast like in Croatia.

    Congratulations Air Serbia!

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    1. So now for you turkey and Greece are Balkans!!?? Okay.... But please most of you make up your mind about this matter, thank you!

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    2. Anonymous11:26

      I have no doubts about it

      https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Karte_Suedosteuropa_03_01.png

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    3. Anonymous12:22

      No one ever claimed Greece was not in the Balkans.

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  23. Anonymous10:47

    Is there a possibility that some of the routes working well from INI may be introduced from Belgrade? Salzburg for example?

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    1. Anonymous12:29

      Had they had a smaller jet, they could`ve started a number of Germany/Austria destinations from Belgrade years ago, competing with the LH group effectively. That includes Salzburg, but also Innsbruck, Nuremberg, Munich, Hannover, one more airport in Rhein/Ruhr possibly, maybe even Linz, Karlsruhe, as well as increasing frequencies to Hamburg, Stuttgart etc.

      In that case, no other airline could compete with them on Germany/Austria to Serbia market.

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  24. Aэrologic10:52

    It is pivotal for Air Serbia to develop markets far away from Ex-Yu and where there is no LCC presence. KRR is the prime example of that.

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  25. Anonymous11:47

    Now we wait to see Kraljevo added to the network next year :D

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  26. Anonymous14:29

    Congratulations to Air Serbia, they are trying and aggressively growing, and some of their endeavors are bearing fruit.... However, I am concerned if they will be able to maintain all these routes in the medium term (that is into 2021), if there is a slight economic downturn (which we all know is on the horizon), Air Serbia can have a rude awakening when tourist stop flying and the routes dry up overnight....maybe its time to consolidate?

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    1. Anonymous15:30

      If tourists stop flying it will be tourist countries like Turkey, Croatia and Greece that will be most affected.

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    2. Anonymous15:32

      Air Serbia already went through a consolidation process and these increases came as a result of that process. JU is becoming a strong regional brand meaning people are getting used to flying with them. Also, destinations such as OTP, SKG and TIA are increased by one weekly frequency so it's nothing too revolutionary.

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    3. Anonymous15:32

      JP is on its knees so JU will have more passengers in TIA and SOF once they go bankrupt.

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    4. Anonymous15:46

      Anon 15:30, don't be funny, are you trying to tell us that the only Med countries will suffer in a downturn?! and that all these new JU flights are successful because of a large up tick in Business persons travelling to Serbia..LOL Tourists and Diaspora fill those JU flights, and If there's an economic downturn they will dry us and leave a large void to fill making JU very vulnerable...

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    5. Anonymous15:49

      Are you implying only JU will be affected? Luckily JU operates the Atr to TIA meaning it will be much less exposed than Adria, Turkish Airlines or Austrian Airlines who all send jet aircraft so their costs and expenses are much higher.

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    6. Anonymous19:39

      @Anonymous2 September 2019 at 15:46

      Oh it's you again, asking to be publicly schooled. Okay, so coastal airports like SPU and DBV have a ratio of passengers during busiest vs slowest month of the year typically around 20:1. Air Serbia hub Belgrade has that ratio of less than 2,5:1. Now given this seasonality discrepancy, simple math question for you. Which airport (BEG or one of the coastal) is more likely to suffer "when tourist stop flying"?

      No need to answer, it's obvious. Take your hate for Air Serbia elsewhere.

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  27. Anonymous15:37

    Fantastic move by JU. Great to see them grow more and more in a sensible manner. BEG will surely reach six million in 2019.

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  28. Anonymous15:50

    Tirana has been the silent achiever for JU! Woohoo

    Anyone know TIA's numbers for July? How many passengers do they have until now?

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    1. Anonymous15:56

      January-July 1,796,867

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  29. Anonymous17:48

    Does anyone know if the codeshare agreement between JU and SU is still in place on flights between Belgrade and Moscow? Ju logo has been taken off from the SU inflight magazine where they list their codeshare partners.

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  30. Anonymous17:58

    What happened to YU-ARA the other day (Saturday I think) when JU500 was cancelled? This is second time this season that they had to cancel JFK.

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    1. Anonymous19:11

      It wasn't really cancelled (regardless of what airport site says), it was really just pushed from Sat to Sun. Air Serbia operates JFK service 6 days per week, x7 - except on Sunday. This time they pushed it from Sat to Sun, flew on Sun to JFK and back to BEG, and service now continues today (currently in flight) but with some delay as service is operated by one aircraft.

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  31. Anonymous18:11

    Congrats to JU and I hope my hometown ZAG goes back to 14 weekly soon!

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  32. Anonymous18:53

    What's incredible about the recent JU success is that they've done it without the EY management and even more impressively without being a part of any alliance. Instead, they're relying solely on carefully chosen route network as well as code-sharing with various other legacies on specific routes.

    Who would have thought that the new destinations from both BEG and INI would actually contribute towards increasing the overall LF in the first few months of operating. Super impressive.

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    1. Anonymous21:16

      Actually, your praise is somewhat misplaced. Same management is in place that was there when EY had the management contract. Only difference is that EY HQ is no longer making decisions and instead, local management team based in BEG calls the shots - and that has been the difference and would always have made the difference if the local team were allowed to do now, what they should always have been doing - not to mention with more involvement from the majority shareholder.

      Nonetheless, full kudos to them on what they are now achieving

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  33. Anonymous19:36

    How did Belgrade-Nice perform?

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    1. Anonymous22:17

      Excellent. It was few times upgraded to A320. Return early next year.

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    2. Anonymous08:08

      And what was the worst performing new route?
      RJK?
      What about Kiev?

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    3. Anonymous10:01

      Kiev is ok but not great. Most of the newly launched routes (both BEG and INI) performed really well except for INI-BUD.

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  34. Anonymous22:02

    Belgrade is doing well this year but must monitor the developments in TSR - an airport already showing serious muscles there.
    Connections to Spain, Israel and similar LH daily frequencies.
    Strongest part are flight prices to London - nearly 75% cheaper compared to BEG and not being capital. Lessons to be learned from the Romanian city.

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    1. Anonymous22:29

      Lessons to be learned from an airport that's barely serving 1.5 million? Are you sure? I know you are trolling but what can we do.

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    2. Anonymous22:35

      Similar frequency but not the same capacity. In TSR LH sends a mix of E95 and CRJ-900, that's no longer the case with BEG. ;)

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    3. Anonymous07:28

      In winter LH regularly sends CR9 to Beg.
      TSR is basically now considered as a competition and soon to be 2 million...

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    4. Anonymous07:58

      Maybe from MUC but from FRA LH does not fly anymore during winter with anything smaller than A319

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    5. Anonymous09:07

      Hahaha yes, of course TSR is a competitor with it's 1.5 million passengers. Get real please.

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  35. Anonymous02:57

    I would love to see a atleast a one weekly flight from Nis to Pafos.

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    1. Anonymous03:49

      Sounds like this would be a personal flight just for you. ;-)

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    2. Nemjee06:59

      Hahaha let's not get carried away and don't forget that JU had flights to PFO during the LCA runway reconstruction phase some years ago, bookings collapsed during the period.

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    3. Anonymous07:30

      FR flies 3 weekly from SOF to PFO.
      Doubt JU will launch INI-PFO but you never know.
      How about INI-TLV?

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