Embraer pitches E2 jet to EX-YU airlines


Embraer has pitched its E195-E2 aircraft to Montenegro Airlines, Air Serbia and Croatia Airlines, with the jet, dubbed the “profit hunter”, visiting Podgorica, Belgrade and Zagreb last week. “We handed over our first production E195-E2 to leasing giant AerCap and launch operator Azul Airlines of Brazil earlier this month. We are proud to show off our new aircraft to operators across the region. We are already seeing many of these customers interested in the world-beating aircraft”, Martyn Holmes, the Vice President for Europe, Russia, Central Asia & Leasing for Embraer Commercial Aviation, said. “We are eager to present the E195-E2 to airlines”, he added.

Montenegro Airlines, which is the only national carrier in the former Yugoslavia to operate Embraer-manufactured aircraft, has expressed interest in the new jet. The Montenegrin carrier is currently in the process of finalising a commercial strategy which will define the company’s development over the next three to five years in terms of its destination network and fleet structure. It is believed the strategy will include replacing the airline’s remaining Fokker jets with two E195s. Furthermore, in three years’ time, the carrier would replace its first E195, delivered in 2008, with the new E195-E2. The E2 family of aircraft have the capacity to seat between eighty and 132 passengers, depending on the variant and cabin layout.


Air Serbia, which is studying the renewal of its ageing regional fleet, also plans to replace its narrow-body Airbus fleet in the coming years. According to previous statements made by the Serbian Finance Minister, Siniša Mali, who served as the President of the airline's Supervisory Board between 2013 and 2018, the national carrier will replace A319 and A320 jets within a three year period in the lead-up to 2025. The airline was to start taking delivery of ten A320neo jets late last year, however, part-owner Etihad Airways cancelled its order for the aircraft this January, which were destined for Air Serbia.

Fleet expansion has been set as one of the priorities for Croatia Airlines’ future strategic partner. The carrier’s sale process is due to begin by June 1, 2020 at the latest. The carrier has been wet-leasing two CRJ1000 aircraft from Spain's Air Nostrum over the summer season for three years running and will take delivery of two A320neos in 2022 and a further two in 2023. However, the airline previously said it was seeking to acquire airframes that would bridge the difference in the capacity of its Airbus jets, which have between 144 to 174 seats, and the Dash 8 Q400 with 76 seats. It noted that the introduction of a third type of aircraft would further optimise the entire fleet and allow even better adjustment to capacity on the Croatian market, which is highly seasonal.




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  1. Bravo Jugoslavija :-)

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  2. I think E195-E2 is too big for most ex-Yu airlines. It's basically the size of an Airbus A319. E175-E2 on the other hand would be perfect for example for Air Serbia and Croatia Airlines.

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    1. Air Serbia replacing Airbuses with these E195-E2 birds wouldn't be such a bad idea at all.

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    2. And why not replace Boeings with these?

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    3. Boeings will be replaced with Airbus models in order to be compatible with rest of fleet, same pilots, crew, maintenance, that makes sense.
      Hopefully, whole nonsense of keeping different brand for charter business will be over once Boeings go to retirement.

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    4. Ok that sounds plausable The different branding made sense when JU's mainline product was impressive and above average. Now, not any more.

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    5. I feel like Air Serbia would be better off replacing the A320 fleet with the A220

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    6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCF3_Z7XAHU
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSSotUV8YGg
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LcO_MHMltM

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  3. The most ideal aircraft - capacity wise = all of these airlines need is something like the Sukhoi 100.

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    1. Please, nothing like Sukhoi 100 :)

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    2. I meant just capacity wise. A 100 seater.

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    3. I know, just kidding :)
      Basically, 2 types of planes are needed for most ex-YU airlines:
      Sub 100 (80) for regional routes (ie. potential replacement for ATRs, Dash, Fokker...)
      100-120 seaters that will fit most of pan European routes

      I wouldn't expect for Embraer to enter either JU or OU, Adria is knocking on a heavens door, Montenegro is in deep trouble similar to Adria.

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    4. YM has the upper hand of being out of the EU. The government just keeps pumping money into it. They were in deep trouble back in 2008 as well but the government financed the purchase of Embraers (just remember YM had to return one EMB later because it was no longer able to pay for it).

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    5. 23 September 2019 at 09:30
      +1
      Same situation as JU.

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    6. Montenegro is in very bad shape, their total debt is larger then equity. Similar info started spreading recently for Adria.
      There are reports available of current near catastrophic financials of YM. Difference is that government of Montenegro can do whatever they want.

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  4. Why not to Adria? They need new aircrafts immediately?

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    1. And pay with what? Monopoly money?

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    2. Holger will find money! Thrust in Holger!

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    3. Adria is so broke they don't even have monopoly money.

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    4. Adria wont need planes in a short period

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  5. Air Serbia is only considering Embraers as a possible replacement for Stars. But the oil crisis that just begun is not favorable for regional jets as opposed to turboprops.

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    1. You mean ATRs?

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    2. Does anyone remember when Air Serbia was being launched how they said that an international tender would be made for the purchase of new aircraft and that all plane makers were welcome. Whatever happened to that?

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    3. Reality hit them? They realized that the way forward is by leasing second hand planes which are much cheaper than brand new ones. It's much wiser to add A319s and Atrs rather than to introduce a brand new model/plane into the fleet. JU seems to be the only ex-YU carrier that is working on building volume which is something none of these airlines can survive without.

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    4. There's no reason to swap ATRs for any other plane except for the new generation ATR72-600.

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    5. There are many reasons to swap ATRs for something else, but it would be very difficult financial wise.

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    6. People tend to forget that JU actually owns 3 ATRs meaning it has no additional costs for leasing which is a major advantage. That is why retiring them and leasing or buying new ones isn't so economical.

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    7. Those ATRs are old so they also need more money for maintenance.

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  6. The E2 looks nice but introducing it to any of these airline's fleet (except Montenegro) would be expensive. It would require training pilots, cabin crew, getting maintenance certificates etc.

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    1. Embraer is becoming Boeing at the end of this year :) they will probably also rebrand the plane names.

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    2. Agree. This makes no sense from a fleet efficiency standpoint. No stand-alone airline should have 3 different types of aircraft.

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    3. Air Serbia already has 3 types - ATR, Airbus and Boeing.

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    4. @9.06 Air Serbia replaced entire fleet of Boeings with Airbuses within 2-3 months. Why wouldn't this be possible?

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  7. All of these airlines are struggling financially yet Embraer things they can buy new aircraft.

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    1. Exactly. When you are cash-strapped like ex-Yu airlines, it is very difficult to think about sinking money into new planes.

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    2. OU is getting new planes - A320neos.

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    3. I agree, they can barley afford a used leased aircraft... let alone a new one. Unless governments of these countries step in an finance these new ac, nothing will happen otherwise.

      I wish I was wrong...

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  8. How come they skipped Adria Airways? They might need it for their upcoming winter season expansion. XD

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  9. Would be nice but ex-Yu airlines buying brand new planes, not chance.

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    1. What are you talking about? Croatia Airlines is getting new A320neos in 2022.

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    2. And if OU could, they would get out of that deal in a heartbeat.

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    3. That is in 3 years. Let's wait and see what happens by then. I'm not so sure OU will even be around.

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    4. They don't have to buy new planes. As you read in the article, AerCap has bought E-jets. AerCap is one of the biggest aircraft leasing companies in the world.

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  10. Plane looks great.

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  11. The only airline I see getting the E2 is Montenegro Airlines. As a present from the Montenegrin government.

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  12. Embraer should have down research to know what kind of airlines they are dealing with.

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  13. 2 years ago YM said they are considering B737 MAXs. I really wouldn't read too much into their fleet renewal strategy.

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  14. They may be looking at Air Serbia as a customer but I don't think Air Serbia is looking to buy them.

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    1. Well some plane manufacturers will offer very good deals so you never know.

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    2. Seems like the ATRs and Boeings will stay forever.

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    3. I hope the ATRs do stay, they are a fantastic aircraft for regional flights. They just need to find some younger ones to replace the ancient ones.

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    4. Absolutely !
      ATRs are profitable even with low loadfactors .
      Replacing them with other more fancy models would be JUs financial ruin .

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  15. It´s strange that neither JU nor OU are interested in Embraers. Its a very reliable and efficient aircraft and already used by so many European airlines.

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    1. Former OU CEO Kucko was quite interested in the E2s

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  16. I would love to see Embraer E jets in the Air Serbia fleet but I seriously doubt that the fleet ATR, E195, A319, A320 and A330 would make Financial Department happy.

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  17. Embraers are a much better and more decent option. Canadian Bombardier aircraft, just like C-series (now A220), tend to be lower class and made from cheaper material hence their lower price.

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    1. Remarkably ignorant comment.

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    2. Wow. I hope you were being ironic.
      The C-Series/A220 is a totally different generation of plane, compared to any previous Embraer or Airbus or Boeing or CRJ. It's 21st century manufacturing that you can see, feel, hear and experience every minute of the flight. It is truly extremely modern. I doubt you set a foot in that bird.
      Having said that I never flew on an E2 (same as you) so we can't compare the two.

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  18. I know a lot of people fly Montenegro Airlines rather than Air Serbia between Serbia-Montenegro just because they use Embraers.

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    1. Are those people you know refusing to fly when they see Montenegro old planes like F100 or leased B737?

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    2. Or Carpatair F100 which was also used this year.

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    3. No, they mainly dislike flying with turboprops, especially those that commute often between the two countries and there are many people who do. It's not about fleet age.

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    4. I love these comments - yeah, everyone is scared of turboprops.

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    5. It's not just about being scared. It's about them being noisy and uncomfortable.

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    6. If we look at Amadeus and flights for November, for BEG-TGD we see the following:

      YM x9 weekly flights.
      JU x17 weekly flights.

      JU will have 7 on the A319 and 10 on the ATR.

      So much for people preferring YM.

      lol

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    7. For a 50 minute flight, they are perfectly fine. Stop spreading pollution.

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    8. Because peace, quiet and comfort are critical on a 45-minute flight. Please.

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    9. JU will destroy YM this winter just based on frequencies. YM will lose a lot of market over this, they will have a morning departure from TGD.

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    10. Bad news for YM

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    11. Nice to see JU become more aggressive.

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    12. Even for 50min flights current ATRs fleet is not really stellar experience, if you look from customer perspective. Yes, they are "good enough", they will transport you from A to B, but calling them "perfectly fine" is just not ok.
      And, lets not forget, they are not flying only 50min flight, they are flying routes up to 130min.

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    13. Yes routes up to 130 min where there is no competition like Prague. Some routes like Tirana are maturing nicely so they can actually sustain A319, same applies for DBV and SPU.

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    14. One reason or another, its a fact that they use ATRs for different routes, and it is a fact that passengers are not actually delighted with this flying experience, for various reasons.

      Additionally, it is a big capacity jump from 70 (ATR) to 144 (A319)

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    15. It's not a big jump if they can fill those seats. ;) Which is the case with most destinations that were increased in recent times.

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  19. Let's see if Embraer is successful.

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    1. I hope this effort won't be for nothing. :)

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  20. Aircraft looks pretty modern and funky.

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  21. Has the E2 proved reliable? A220 is having problems.

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    1. Widerøe had a dispatch reliability of 98.5% after its first year of operation.

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    2. That's not bad at all.

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    3. Embraer wants to guarantee a 99% schedule reliability in the first year of service.

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  22. Introducing a new aircraft type is quite expensive. Apart from the actual cost, crew also have to be trained.

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  23. The E2s would be a super cool option for all three airlines.

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  24. This plane would be perfect for Air Serbia but like others say, I don't think Air Serbia has the money for it.

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    1. Uz dobre uslove za kupovinu mogla bi lagano to da otplati.
      I lizing sadasnjih aviona kosta kompaniju mnogo

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    2. Али ЈУ нема потреба за овим у овом тренутку, ова флота коју сада имају их одлично служи. По мени много је већи приоритет заменити 733 са 319.

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  25. Can Embraer guarantee this "profit hunter" will finally bring profit to Montenegro Airlines? If not, what's the point of YM getting this plane?

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  26. Out of Yugoslavia, the E2 could be interesting for Air Moldova and Bulgaria Air. Both companies have bern operating this jet for years. It has shown to be reliable, safe and extremely efficient.
    Within Yugoslavia, it's only YM that is really compatible.

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    1. Air Moldova's parent company (Blue Air) isn't doing so well these days.

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  27. Anyone know the economics of the E2 and how it stack up against other rivals? Thanks in advance.

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    1. Nobody knows that at the moment because its a new plane. It should be comparable with A220 or "just around corner" Mitsubishi...

      But big issue for Embraer is that they are currently not fitting in a "scope clause" limitations in USA for regional planes. There were rumors that this limitation are going to be relaxed but now it looks different. If that stays as it is, it will limit sales in USA which will then impact rest of world too.

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  28. Are there any pictures of inside the E2 jet?

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    1. There's a gallery here https://www.flickr.com/photos/pt737swa/40457348435/in/photostream/

      This is on Wodroe.

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    2. TGD presentation- cabin:
      https://publisher-publish.s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/pb-vijesti/swp/9sju0v/media/20190917090952_53c25be9-d05d-4d38-b66b-9d7eb5701e41.jpeg

      https://www.vijesti.me/media/20190917090940_1833dc19e52968c720e0318d8db319b87f8bf866efd23b5ddd55bd80b61a9421.jpeg

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    3. Thank you! Looks good.

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  29. Valid to all Micky Mouse airlines would be a suicide to phase in any new aircraft type... ... too risky & expensive.

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  30. This plane would be great for FlyBosnia actually, the only airline in the region that probably has the funds to even pay for it. Pity they didn' visit Sarajevo.

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  31. Hunting what???

    There is no profit in all those companies...

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    1. After the subsidies all three gst this year, all three will have a profit at the end of the year.

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