Air Serbia to add two aircraft in 2020


Air Serbia plans to grow its fleet by another two aircraft in 2020, while its overall capacity will increase 12% during the first quarter of next year. Speaking at the CAPA World Aviation Outlook Summit, the airline’s General Manager for Commercial and Strategy, Jiri Marek, said the company was undergoing a journey from a “steady evolution to almost revolution”, adding it was one of the fastest growing carriers in South East Europe. Mr Marek did not specify the aircraft type Air Serbia will be adding next year. In 2019 it introduced a ninth Airbus A319 to its fleet and wet-leased a Bombardier CRJ900 over the summer months. The airline will require additional aircraft in the coming period with new routes planned for 2020 from three airports in the country.

Mr Marek emphasised that one of the airline’s main goals over the year was to increase its overall average cabin load factor. “In its move from state-owned to hybrid, Air Serbia has achieved a turnaround by October and recorded an 80% load factor. People thought it was a joke when we said we wanted to achieve that, but we spent the whole summer believing in it and executing”, Mr Marek said. He added, “The entire Air Serbia team is responsible for this exceptional result. With hard work, dedication, strategic planning and timely recognition of opportunities in the market, we are setting new records. The ending year was marked by growth that has never been stronger and we are planning to continue with this tempo in the future as well”.

Air Serbia also plans to grow its charter traffic in 2020 following a record year. In addition to the recently announced leisure flights to Morocco, which are due to commence in late March, Air Serbia will, for the first time, deploy its wide-body Airbus A330 aircraft on charter services, as indicated by tour operators. The airline will utilise the 254-seat jet on charters to Palermo in mid-February, as well as to Genova in mid-March. In 2018, Air Serbia ran 958 charter services and carried 223.000 passengers. In 2019, the number of charters have grown to over 1.000.




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  1. Anonymous09:01

    My guess is 1 A319 and 1 ATR72

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  2. Anonymous09:02

    Nice to see them FINALLY utisling YU-ARA in winter.

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  3. Anonymous09:02

    "In its move from state-owned to hybrid" => Really? What has the ownership to do with a business model?

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    1. Anonymous09:06

      hybrid = state subsidised :D as always dont take those izjave for too serious

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    2. Anonymous09:09

      Haha, management experience at its best :D

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    3. Anonymous09:26

      hybrid: half commercial company, half state service :)

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  4. Anonymous09:02

    What a contrast compared to the Kondic era. There is a great saying in Serbian: риба од главе смрди.

    Looking forward to seeing what else they increase.

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  5. Anonymous09:02

    So no Sukhois? :P

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    1. Anonymous09:03

      lets hope so

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    2. Anonymous09:08

      Sounds like ASL avoided that disaster!

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    3. Anonymous10:24

      I don't see Aeroflot having any 'disaster'.

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    4. Anonymous10:25

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M3RGk5KcNM

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    5. Anonymous12:25

      Anon 10:24
      I would definitely call having only Russian state owned airlines @willing@ to order your aircraft a commercial disaster.

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    6. Anonymous12:31

      Lol

      Dare to name an airliner without a single crash, at least due to human error?

      SSJ flies regularly to ZAG, LJU and OTP without any issue.

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    7. Anonymous14:25

      Lol

      Dare to name an airline that was not ordered by the Russian government to buy and operate the SSj happy with it?

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    8. Anonymous16:53

      You can find the list on the official website.

      Don't forget many are afraid of the sanctions due to US components.

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    9. Anonymous21:25

      Which non Russian airline operates the SSJ and is happy with it?

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  6. Anonymous09:03

    Well done JU!

    one means the will definitely add frequencies on routes started in 2019, and add more routes in 2020...

    No words on long haul expansion...

    Main focus, in mz opinion, should be flertrenewalf. Hopefully we get some news on that soon

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    1. Anonymous09:06

      True, I think as well that key is flertrenewalf

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    2. Anonymous10:40

      :D fleet renewal

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    3. Anonymous14:52

      I genuinely thought it was a word in german and tried to google the translation..

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    4. Anonymous13:34

      i think this word should be listed in the blog's hall of fame toghether with "bravo hrvatska/srbija/etc.", OU's "too soon" and the commenter "it's all fake news towards adria" :D

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    5. Anonymous16:42

      What about 'XYZ country keeps winning' I think that's a pretty famous comment these days :D

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  7. Anonymous09:04

    Big bird starting to fly to European destinations, finally!

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  8. Anonymous09:04

    So they still be flying the 35 year old 737s...
    They should focus on replacing them with leased A320 series.

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    1. Anonymous09:10

      +1
      I have been saying that with the big influx of NEOs in service many CEOs are hitting the leasing market at very reduced rates.
      JU should definitely take advantage of that.

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    2. Anonymous09:10

      Yes, those 737 are so cheap that every flight makes money for them if only half full.

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    3. Petar09:13

      Anon at 09:10
      Arizona desert is full of them.
      JU should really go for more 737 classics and so the world aviation industry what a successful business model that is!
      SMFH

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    4. Anonymous09:22

      Petre, not really because JU doesn't own any 733s in the Arizona desert, it does own the ones in Belgrade though.

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    5. Petar09:31

      The ones in Arizona desert are so cheap that it could probably get 10 of them for the lease rate of a single 10 year old A320!
      JU should really go for it.

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    6. Anonymous09:40

      Not funny Petar

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    7. Anonymous09:44

      I agree! It's about time Air Serbia took those flying g death traps out of the skies and retire them to the desert before there is a serious accident. There is no way those aircraft are still safe to fly at 35 years old, there must be a lot of metal fatigue and corrosion on them.

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    8. Petar09:45

      It is not funny, it is true that JU could get 733s for 10-15.000 dollars a month!
      They should really thing about replacing all A320s.
      Think how much that would enhance the profitability!

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    9. Anonymous09:48

      You mean to think and not to thing?

      Usually it is the mistake Purger always makes

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    10. Petar10:03

      Yes Anon 09:48
      Every poster who you disagree with is Purger!
      You should really look into that before it gets any worse.

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    11. Anonymous10:47

      You simply didn't get it.

      I was not anon who started this topic with you. I just noticed that your sarcasm does not belong to this topic as it can't contribute to this topic on any positive way.

      I do not think that operating old B737s' or ATR72-200 is the correct way, but obviously people from Air Serbia made their calculation that shows it is still more profitable to fly with them in Europe (as long as they are safe) than to lease 10-15 years old buses.

      Being more profitable means less contributions from Government and I suppose it is what we all want here. Working on that way we might come to the situation that Government financial help is no needed anymore. The results achieved up to now show that Air Serbia's management is on the good way to achieve it.

      Once you decide to establish your company you are more than free to follow your business logic and to lease planes from desert.

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    12. Anonymous10:47

      JU is slowly retiring those 733s, this year it was YU-ANJ and I am sure another will be retired next year as more A319s arrive. They have served JU (in all of its forms) for many years, personally I will see it as the end of an era. Also many 733s have to fly in winter so that captains and crew have enough hours to keep their licence. It's not all about fleet shortage.

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    13. Anonymous10:50

      Can't the pilots fly the planes from the desert? :-))

      LOOL

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    14. Anonymous11:09

      You can laugh and mock the Boeings all you want but their contribution to JU has been beyond any words. They were there to maintain operations and to keep the system from falling apart.
      Also, JU needs to have a slow transition from 733s to A319s and to make sure the switch does not represent a financial shock. Baby steps, baby steps.

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    15. Anonymous12:36

      Huge savings.

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    16. Anonymous14:12

      @Petar "The ones in Arizona desert are so cheap that it could probably get 10 of them for the lease rate of a single 10 year old A320!"

      Petar, if those 737s have any resources left, are you going to pay for D checks, cabin upgrade, paint job, transport from Arizona to BEG and whatever needs to be done from your own pocket? No? Then better keep quiet, othewise people might thinK you have no clue.

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    17. Anonymous14:27

      +100

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  9. Anonymous09:04

    So if they again wet lease CRJ900 and with these 2 extra planes their fleet should be 24.

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    1. Anonymous09:08

      So twice the number of OU´s fleet. Still only a few passengers more than OU.

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    2. Anonymous09:09

      A few? It will have 700,000 more passengers than OU this year.

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    3. Anonymous09:11

      But I imagine in 2020 number of passengers will be drastically higher for Air Serbia if the trend continues.

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    4. Anonymous09:13

      @ Anon 09.09. yes 700.000 more I meant. But they should at least have 1,5-1,8 million more considering there fleet.

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    5. Anonymous09:14

      Keep in mind that utilisation of 3 B737s is not standard. They are used mostly only during the summer.

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    6. Anonymous09:15

      @ 9.13
      You can carry 7 million passengers and have millions in losses. The point isn't how many passengers you carry but what's your load factor and yields. A load factor of 80% reported by JU is fantastic.

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    7. Anonymous09:25

      @ Anon 9.15

      But you do realize that ther is a connection between LF, Yield and PAX carried?

      So if JU has 10 A319 with a capacity of say 144, and they do 3 return flights a day, then you have 10 (A319) * 144*0,8 (capacity * LF) * 6 legs (say 3 rotations a day (which is really low)) *350 days

      ==> Makes 2,42 million pax.

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    8. You can conceivably have 100% load factor.
      And still lose millions of Euros if your ticket revenues are not enough to cover your costs.
      Is is no wonder that in a year where aircraft all over Europe were travelling with record load factors 20 airlines went bankrupt and closed down.

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    9. Anonymous09:44

      It is obvious that during winter season Air Serbia opened many new promotional fares and especially for transfer passengers as this is the slowest part of they year (except Christmas holidays).

      We had action called "Ponuda koja se vidi sa Meseca" and now we had "Praznicna ponuda". By working on that way Air Serbia surely increased LF but the yield is normally not so big as during the summer.

      All the companies are doing it during the winter months and it is the only way to fill up the planes. It is better to have 90% LF with bit reduced price tickets than to have 30-40% LF with normal price tickets.

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    10. Anonymous10:49

      All these promotions are great as there is nothing that costs more than an empty seat on a flight. No one makes money in November, February or the first half of December. In that period airlines try to minimize their losses by as much as possible. I am going to be really curious to see what their revenue will be like in 2019. I think last year it was €365 million.

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    11. Anonymous10:51

      Last year was 288 million in revenue
      https://www.exyuaviation.com/2019/08/air-serbia-posts-122-million-profit-for.html

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    12. Anonymous11:10

      Nice, thank you for the update. Let''s see how much it will be this year, hopefully they pass the 300 million mark. How much in revenue did other airlines in ex-YU have last year, JP included.

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    13. Anonymous12:38

      With Air Serbia having 2,48 million passengers and 288 million in revnues in 2018 (asuuming ALL company revenue was soley mad from ticket sales) They sold a one way fare for 116€.

      Since usually 70% of revenues come from ticket sales the average ticket price per leg was around 81€. Considering they fly long haul- it is not so good.

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    14. Anonymous12:43

      If only things were calculated like that.

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  10. Anonymous09:06

    If they really managed to get to 80% LF that's outstanding.

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  11. Anonymous09:07

    Nice! Looking forward to expansion in 2020.

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  12. Anonymous09:08

    Nice picture taken in Istanbul Grand Airport from yesterday <3 .

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    1. Anonymous09:15

      How was the load on this inaugural flight to IST?

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    2. Anonymous09:23

      BEG-IST 71/144
      IST-BEG 118/132

      two passengers in business on the way back.

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    3. Anonymous09:40

      Great for inaugural flight!

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    4. Anonymous10:49

      What's interesting is that there were more passengers on the return flight! I guess point of sale for JU is Turkey! Hopefully we get daily flights in summer.

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  13. Anonymous09:09

    Everything seems to be on the right track but they really need to replace the Boeings and older ATRs as soon as possible. These new aircraft won't be able to do that because I've got a feeling that they will be needed for expansion and frequency increases rather than anything else. It is good that they are finally using the A330 on charters during winter. It might also be worth considering putting it on a LHR rotation every now and again considering they were saying that they had capacity issues on the route.

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    1. Petar09:13

      +1000

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    2. Anonymous09:34

      I have heard that if A330 would fly to LHR it would be impossible to be handled by airport in a time A319/320 can be. And slots are given for narrow body planes.

      So, knowing the restrictions in LHR I believe Air Serbia's A330 can't be sent to LHR

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    3. Anonymous10:18

      It's obvious that they will keep on utilizing the ATRs until their resources completely expire.

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    4. Anonymous10:19

      The older ATRs really need to be taken out of service. ASAP. Everyone that has flown them recently knows what I'm talking about.

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    5. Anonymous10:22

      Air Serbia must replace 200 series and introduce rj planes, if they want to be more competitive on the market. CRJ would be a good option.

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  14. Anonymous09:10

    7.2 million at BEG next year.

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  15. Anonymous09:12

    1 x A319
    1 x A330

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    1. Anonymous09:14

      Highly unlikely they will get another A330.

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    2. Anonymous09:19

      Maybe the A330 they will be using on these charters is not YU-ARA :D

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    3. Anonymous09:24

      Obzirom na nove destinacije u pitanju ce biti 2*a319/320

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    4. Anonymous09:34

      I think the chances are greater for JU to return YU-ARA to EY after the lease ends than getting another A330.

      Just my2cents

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    5. Anonymous09:46

      Now after JFK came close to break even?

      I do no think so. JFK generates a lot of transfer traffic and it is important for regional JU network.

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    6. Anonymous09:53

      Anon at 09:46
      Is JFK close to brake even?
      Any info?

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    7. Anonymous16:27

      If Air Serbia is highly unlikely to get another A330, it means they don't want to grow long haul destinations. It could also mean Belgrade Airport is fully open for intercontinental business, willing to accept and offer incentives to other airlines looking at starting BEG services. Airlines from China and Canada are most likely to show up in Belgrade at one point.

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    8. Anonymous16:43

      Until Belgrade expands there is simply no room for JU to add another widebody aircraft.

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    9. Anonymous17:19

      Air Serbia to add two aircraft in 2020 says the headline. In most cases two A319-320 equals one A330 from capacity viewpoint. Other airlines like LOT are also adding BEG routes and capacity next year, so why this argument about no room just for widebodies? Makes no sense.

      Anyway, too late now to announce any 2020 long hauls, but just enough time for 2021 season. Vinci better expand those C gates by then.

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    10. Anonymous18:04

      Nije kasno. Mogu uvesti po 2X recimo Peking i Toronto u zimskom redu letenja za 2020-u i tako maksimalno iskoristiti ARU sledece zimske sezone a na leto 2021. dodati drugi A330?

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    11. Anonymous07:50

      It can't work because an A330 uses two airbridges in BEG so two would use up almost all of the C gates, something neither BEG nor JU can afford.

      LO isn't increasing BEG, it's 11 weekly like this year.

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    12. Anonymous15:00

      LO is introducing BUD

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    13. Anonymous06:57

      The way they keep on postponing it I wouldn't be surprised if they cut it in the end.

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  16. Anonymous09:19

    Looks like a busy summer coming up

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  17. Anonymous09:21

    Great news. Nice to see JU expanding and posting good results.

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  18. Anonymous09:31

    This are amazing news and just shows right direction of Air Serbia.

    According to some other aviation forums new destinations from next summer season will be Valencia, Rostov on Don, Oslo, Florence, Geneva.

    I can say nothing but great job JU!

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    1. Anonymous09:52

      Can you share the source? Sounds amazing, but in my opinion they should also opt to grab transfers from Yerevan and Tbilisi.

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    2. Anonymous10:46

      I have heard rumors of Florence as well. Actually it makes sense, as therr are no major companies in Eastern Europe except for OS, if you even consifrc them to be on the east.

      Also, two airlines fly to Tirana, I guess JU could grab some transfers from there as well

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    3. Anonymous11:12

      Florence can also be served by the Atr, the flight should be as long as Venice.

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  19. Anonymous09:47

    The CRJ is not the ideal choice but maybe because of its good price.
    My guess is that they are likely to increase current destinations with higher demand.
    LJU, SKG, SOF, MAD/BCN, TIA....

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  20. Anonymous10:08

    Nice. Do we know how many Boeings will be operational next summer?

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    1. Anonymous10:12

      3

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    2. Anonymous10:50

      Also they will be ready from the start of the charter season. Remember last year YU-AND was not flying until late June because of Jat Tehnika's incompetence and chronic delays.

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  21. Anonymous10:08

    Good work. Nice to see much positive developments after what seemed to be an endless downward spiral.

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    1. Anonymous10:11

      I think it also has to do with the fact that JU consolidated over last 2 yrs and had to cut costs.

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    2. Anonymous10:15

      somewhat but primarily that Etihad is no longer the main company steering the ship.

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  22. Anonymous10:08

    Interestingly their expansion began when Etihad stopped playing a major role in the airline after 5 years and key departments were moved back to Belgrade.

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    1. Anonymous11:07

      It sounds to me that Etihad team realized that they're losing too much money (especially following the launch of personal project, which they were against but...) and wanted to cut costs in an attempt to stabilize the financials. That was the shrinking period of JU. Once the decision making mechanism switched to the government, a classical pattern started to appear, increase the expenses and try to grow whatever the cost is. Cash flow is not an issue nowadays, as the government can find ways to pump money into the company. But it has to be kept in mind that this model is not sustainable on mid-long term.

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    2. Anonymous14:40

      Not sustainable to grow?

      Actually they should be using Goverment's funds as long as they can to establish good network and to position themselves on the market. Once Serbia enters EU to be strong and able to fight with competition without Goverment's help.

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  23. Anonymous10:09

    Those A320neos would come handy right about now.

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    1. Anonymous10:11

      +1

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    2. Anonymous23:33

      10 A320neos would be overkill...
      That was good decision...

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  24. Anonymous10:11

    With one plane, they can complete four daily rotations. Two would do a lot, both for solidifying existing frequencies and for enabling growth. However, the 737 issue is pending. They need to be retired before the summer season. If a fleet is stretched over summer, and a plane goes tech, it shakes the entire wave system (they have no spare aircraft at hand)

    Regards,
    Eight

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    1. Anonymous10:17

      Sooner or later they will have to start leasing some planes to replace ATRs and B737s. They can't fly forever.

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    2. Anonymous10:52

      If any 733 is retired it will be after the 2020 summer season. There is no reason for them to do it before especially since there are no major checks pending.

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  25. Anonymous10:15

    Good work Air Serbia.

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  26. Anonymous10:26

    It's just nice to see Air Serbia waking up after a few years.

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  27. Anonymous10:26

    Time to discover another gem city in Russia and to repeat the success of KRR. Plenty of candidates exist! Also IKA should strongly be considered with good transfer time to Western Europe and the US.

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    1. Anonymous10:37

      I think an additional Russian destination will be added. IKA no chance. Especially with the current situation in Iran.

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    2. Anonymous10:52

      Maybe another Middle Eastern destination? KWI could work?

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  28. Anonymous10:29

    Can JU replace their 737 and ATR fleet with the current profits they are generating?

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    1. Anonymous10:37

      Step by step

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    2. Anonymous10:53

      My guess is no but the more volume they build the easier it will become to do it.

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  29. Anonymous11:08

    Still nothing about online-sale Kraljevo-Vienna? wtf

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    1. Anonymous11:14

      You can go to airserbia.com and book the flights.

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    2. Anonymous11:16

      You can't book them but they have added Kraljevo in the drop down menu which means they just have to enter the prices. I assume online sales will begin later today or tomorrow.

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    3. Anonymous14:58

      For flights in March it is possible to make online booking

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  30. Anonymous11:13

    There is something else that is working in JU's favor. The Serbian market seems to be performing much better than previous years and you can see that by the success of other foreign airlines. Look at Lufthansa, they are sending the A321 on an almost daily basis. OS is upgrading many E95 flights to A319/320 and so on. If foreigners are doing well then JU is probably seeing an increase in local bookings as well.

    If IST proves to be a success and JU goes daily, I wonder if TK will have a case to add more flights.

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    1. Anonymous14:25

      And it happens in the one of the slowest winter months.

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    2. AtlasGlobal and Turkish sent 3 A321 daily basis from IST to BEG until November. Turkish still sends 2 A321s.

      If AirSerbia maintains a codeshare with TK, they can even serve twice daily to IST. Like Aegean airlines achieved, they fly 3 times a day with A320s now in winter - I guess it could be 4 daily in summer when the airport capacity rises up in IST this summer. (Remember Turkish daily flies to ATH 2 times with 777-300er and 2 times with A321 in between March and October. Aegean still wins in IST under this conditions.

      AirSerbia should take Aegean as an example in order to be able to serve 3 daily to IST like Aegean or just daily, however they want. A codeshare with TK is a must, IST is a TK fortress with %81 passenger share.

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  31. Anonymous11:34

    With all the already announced flights and these two planes BEG might have an extra 50 weekly frequencies next summer.

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  32. After only few years of operations, we see Air Serbia with vision and plan, working hard to achieve the goals set, adding destinations, enlarging fleet, raising LF, making (again) BEG proper hub, and even improving financial performance. On the other hand we have Croatia Airlines existing 30 years already with no vision and no idea what to do, stagnating, shrinking, losing chances to make ZAG sort of any hub and struggling financially. And the only one thing I want to say today comparing the two is : Shame on you Croatia Airlines and Bravo Air Serbia! Congratulations from Croatia!

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    1. Anonymous12:05

      Do you think there is a chance for OU to do something? JU seems to be on the right path but before 2013 they were in a horrible state, almost going bankrupt. In a way it's never too late especially since JU shows that we can succeed without foreign partners.

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    2. Anonymous14:24

      Sometimes it is too late.

      OU operates in the same region as JU and it is obvious that JU already took over the huge part of the market, mostly for transfer passengers.

      It is always difficult to position on the market already penetrated by the competition. And especially if you have so much financial problems as OU have

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    3. And sometimes is too early :)

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    4. Anonymous17:28

      Hahahahaha so true

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    5. Anonymous17:58

      Thank you pozdrav iz Rijeke. Kudos!

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    6. Anonymous18:01

      Plus it is not only JU but all the low-costs penetrating the Croatian market, LH in LJU etc.

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  33. Anonymous12:06

    If JU gets one Atr then we can be sure their regional network will look even better than this summer

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  34. Anonymous12:06

    How will BEG cope with this growth? Will there be room during the morning wave of departures? Will they add more gates?

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    1. You have C10 to C7 positions where you go by bus, B1 to B4 also by bus and C6-C1&A1-A10. There are plenty of options. Also, keep in mind that the expansion will be over in the next 2-3 years so I do not worry about BEG.
      I am speaking as an employee of BEG.

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    2. Anonymous06:56

      Then you should know that C-7/C-10 as well as the B positions need bus gates which BEG doesn't have enough of. At the moment there is A4a and A4b and C7. Hardly enough for all those remote stands. When JFK goes you can use the other gate but that's not every day. So all in all BEG will struggle.

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  35. Anonymous12:47

    Which agency is offering Genoa charter. I could not find it anywhere. Thanks

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    1. Anonymous12:50

      It will be Filip travel. It was discussed in the Morocco comments

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    2. Anonymous13:12

      Yes, but on their site for March is only listed Barcelona and Rome. I am asking because I am interested for this trip. Thanks

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    3. Anonymous20:55

      It will be Viva Travel and Filip Travel. Since it is hard to sell only one destination and the period is not holiday in Serbia. They will offer different tours. 1. Genova and 5 Terre with Portofino 2. Sanremo with visits to Monaco, Nice and Cannes 3. Toscany with hotel or in Pisa or Montecatini Terme and trips to Siena and San Gimignano. Today Viva published charter to Bari in february so probably next couple pf days thay will put also this on sale.

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    4. Anonymous21:41

      Viva Travel and Filip. They will offer couple of tours on the same flight. Overnight in Genova with visits to Cinque Terre and Portofino, Sanremo with visits to Monaco and Nice and Toscany tour. They will put it on sale in next few weeks since one of them put today on sale charter to Bari in february which is one month before.

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    5. Anonymous11:16

      Which agency is going to offer Palermo charter?

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    6. Anonymous11:19

      Kon Tiki.

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    7. Anonymous11:22

      Thank you...

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  36. Anonymous14:45

    The best way to have better LF is to use 100 seater instead A319 or 320. It means SSJ100 can come :-)

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    1. I would be happy with an E-95 also.

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  37. Anonymous16:05

    Actually it is two A319 from Adria, 2010 year. Also there is rumor that they will return YU-APG and lease two ATR72-600.

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    1. Anonymous16:47

      yep.Turkish buy them for JU

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  38. Anonymous16:20

    Will the refurbish APK to JU standard with recaro seats and Wifi antenna? How about the Airbus entering the fleet?

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  39. Anonymous16:53

    Make Bucharest double daily please, same with Prague.

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  40. Anonymous16:55

    With all this and much more I'm sure BEG will overtake SOF next year. We might even see Wizz launch AUH BEG on the A321neo.

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    1. Anonymous18:19

      W6 has no right to launch AUH-BEG.

      Once, just once please learn how it works with permissions to fly in Europe

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    2. Anonymous18:51

      W6 is likely to launch SOF-ORY and LED next year. Nov +7%. Take it easy.

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    3. Anonymous23:28

      Wizzair just launched new subsidiary Wizzair Abu Dhabi and it will have the right to fly AUH-BEG. So, once just once read the news

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    4. Anonymous07:52

      Anon 18.51 take it easy? BEG will have close to 50 extra frequencies next year and you think W6 ORY-SOF is enough hahahah

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    5. Anonymous07:59

      Extra 50? Oh. Still seeing a hefty 800 thousand difference in traffic. Maybe FR can help with a 189 seater aircraft. What do you think?

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    6. Anonymous09:16

      Right now we have the following increases:

      7x BUD
      5x ZRH
      3x STR
      1x BCN

      That's 16 extra weekly frequencies before adding the JU ones from the extra two planes so the number should be close to 50 next summer. Belgrade will pass 7 million for sure. I doubt Sofia will have 7.8 million next year, it will be lucky to have 7.5.

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    7. Anonymous10:02

      Sofia will finish 7,1 in 2019 - Almost million ahead.
      With all BEG additions there is still a difference. Sorry, bro.

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    8. Anonymous10:05

      Honey I am talking about 2020, not 2019. This year BEG reduced the difference by some 500.000

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    9. Sofia will have 7.1M,okey,good for them. But, do keep in mind that BEG will get more destinations, more weekly flights and JU is buying 2 jets. When you do the math, BEG will close 2020 with 7.1M at minimum. Not bad for an airport that isn't on the same level as SOF by pax. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if BEG overtakes SOF in 2021.

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    10. Anonymous06:54

      Don't forget that BEG will have massive growth in H1 2020 because of all the extra flights added by JU in summer 2019. Then when summer 2020 comes and a new round of expansion will happen. So this year BEG will have 6.1 or 6.2 million and then next year it is definitely passing 7 million. SOF on the other hand will most likely not pass 7.5 next year. So BEG is definitely catching up.

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  41. Anonymous17:29

    Several reputable sources are saying JU Wii launch KIV, LWO, AMM, GVA... next summer.

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  42. Anonymous17:29

    Still unofficial but people talk about new Air Serbia routes as GVA, KIV and LWO - Geneva, Chisinau (Moldova) and Lviv (Ukraine). First one looks like Airbus, the other two ATR.

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    1. Anonymous17:46

      There may be more Odessa than Lviv.

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    2. Anonymous17:50

      Add Valencia, Rostov on Don, Oslo and Florence to that list and you get 7 new routes ehich I have been hearing about

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    3. Anonymous18:12

      Krakow I reckon is another. Can be reached by ATR and would be the first Polish destination.

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    4. Anonymous19:39

      Would there be much interest in Serbia to go to Krakow for leisure?

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    5. Anonymous21:41

      I also think KRK makes a lot of sense. Lots of O/D passengers (agencies all over Serbia market Krakow as a city break destination- currently with a bus trip) and more than 50k Polish tourists visit Serbia annually- Krakow/Katowice region would use these flights for sure. And that’s without mentioning the transfers to the region.

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  43. Anonymous17:56

    Naj realnije bi bilo da u flotu udju 2 aviona sa oko 100 mesta. Oko tipa aviona ne bih da nagadjam,nadam se da ljudi iz AS naj bolje znaju sta im je ciniti.Ono sto je ocigedno je da bi ta dva aviona mogla da lete u sva 4 talasa i tako bi bili maksimalno iskorisceni.Uzeti na lizing avione koji su non stop u vazduhu bio bi fantastican posao.

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  44. Anonymous18:09

    It is easy to estimate what planes will be joining the flett.

    If you don't count B733 in the fleet, JU currently has 2.360 seat capacity. I calculated 7 ATRs, I think thats how much they have them at the moment. (ATR-66; A319-144; A320-174; A330-254)

    If you increase capacity by 12%, you will have capacity of around 2644 seats, or 284 more which is just about two new A319s.

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    1. Anonymous18:30

      Capacity means numer of seats offered for sale. It depends on the number of flights and number of seats on every flight.

      He said that capacity in 1Q 2020 will by 12% higher than in 1Q2019, so that JU will offer 12% more seats for sale comparing these quarters.

      It doesn't mean that the new planes will be in 1Q 2020.

      The first sentence in a bit confusing way combines two different things.

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    2. aleksanadr18:55

      When they talk about capacity I think they are talking about available air seat miles not the number of seats in the fleet.

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    3. Anonymous19:37

      In the recent past I think they have been talking about number of seats offered for sale and not ASM/ASK.

      Otherwise they would just simply say ASM/ASK. The other thing is increase in ASM/ASK is here much smaller in % than increase in capacity, so it looks nicer to talk about capacity.

      What I am most curious would be increase in revenue. Obviousely the last pax pay the least, so usually big increase in LF brings big fall in average fare. This will tell to what exxtent the subsidies build the value of the company and how much they are just passed by the company onto pax, including transfer pax.

      Observer.

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    4. Anonymous21:18

      Obviousely the last pax pay the least? not true

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    5. Anonymous21:43

      one more thing: "increase in ASM/ASK is here much smaller in % than increase in capacity". True if new capacity is used for just one daily rotation BEG-SJJ, but that's not going to happen. Without knowing what equipment will be added and how will it be deployed/utilized you can't estimate ASK. If Air Serbia gets new equipment to work hard with ASK above their current numbers, opposite will be true.

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    6. Anonymous21:55

      I need to explain myself, because you are right. I meant not the last pax in terms of chronology of sales, but that the number of pax willing to pay a given fare increases as the fare goes down. So the lower the fare the bigger is the pax base that you can poach. If you want to sell more tickets, apart from other things that may make a difference, you need to apply fares that will suit a larger pax base.

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    7. Anonymous22:43

      Increase in ASM/ASK will be lower, because the new planes will not be flying long-haul. BEG-JFK makes a substantial part of ASM/ASK of JU. BEG-JFK is 3920 nm/7260 km. BEG-SJJ is 104nm/193m. So while A330 may have just little less than twice as many seats as A19, it take 38 flights one way BEG-SJJ to equal one one-way flight BEG-JFK in terms of nm/km.

      Observer.

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    8. Anonymous23:25

      BEG-JFK makes a substantial part of ASM/ASK of JU

      LOL during winter 2pw JFK is just a drop in ASK bucket. It's a single A330 vs. all other planes combined, not just one ATR doing shortest rotation in the network. Do-over.

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  45. Sooooooo sceptical about all of this, but let's hope

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    1. Anonymous18:59

      Hehe, why am I not surprised?

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  46. Anonymous21:32

    Cheap: 2x A319. Best,cost effective a/c: 2x E90/95(regional routes up to 3 hrs,and free/release A-bus fleet to more premium markets introducing more & more premium economy , for example)JU needs premium economy.

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  47. Anonymous09:17

    This is really bad news for Wizz Air, they are sitting idle while JU grows in size and relevance. Soon enough their 2 plane base will be extremely pathetic compared to the competition.

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    1. Anonymous09:28

      Is Wizz Air increasing BEG-DTM? I see they have 5 weekly in summer, wasn't it 4 this year?

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    2. Bad news for WZZ, maybe. Hear me out here. I don't want to feel bad about someone who doesn't try their best for their pax. They use gates from A7 to A9 cause they don't want to pay for better ones and also they sont want to expand. It's their decision and they can live with it or not. BEG is in a strategic location with wonderful potential locations for a LCC its just a matter does it pay off or not but the only way to know for sure is to try.

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    3. Anonymous06:52

      So true, Wizz has been too passive in BEG for too long now. It's not only JU that is expanding, it's almost all airlines. Market is growing, they are sleeping.

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  48. Anonymous12:08

    Wow this is impressive. Belgrade is starting to look like a real hub, I like that!

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  49. Anonymous22:11

    Air Serbia restarting BEG-BUD again.

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