Air Serbia launching new route this summer


Air Serbia has responded to Wizz Air’s recently announced Belgrade expansion plans by scheduling a new service between the Serbian capital and Oslo’s main airport of Gardermoen. Flights will commence on July 16 and run twice per week, each Thursday and Sunday. Air Serbia faces direct competition on the route, with Norwegian Air Shuttle to resume the service on July 4 following a four-month hiatus, albeit only once per week. Wizz Air itself has announced a new two weekly service between Belgrade and Sandefjrod near Oslo starting mid-July. Air Serbia's predecessor, Jat Airways, last operated flights to the Norwegian capital from Belgrade in 2008. Last year, the Serbian carrier shortlisted Oslo as one of its potential new routes for 2020, however, it did not make the final cut. Subsequently, all planned new routes for this year were cancelled due to the coronavirus Covid-19 pandemic.

Additionally. Air Serbia will increase the number of frequencies to Italy and Germany, compared to earlier plans. The Serbian flag carrier will now operate seven weekly flights from Belgrade to both Milan and Dusseldorf. Coupled with the recent announcement that it will increase its weekly frequencies to Berlin and Frankfurt, Air Serbia will represent the main link between the region and Germany during high season with 31 direct flights per week from Belgrade.

Commenting on the latest additions, Air Serbia's CEO, Duncan Naysmith, said, “We are delighted to add another primary European airport into our network and providing seamless connectivity to Belgrade and via Belgrade to the wider South Eastern European region. We continue to evolve in these difficult times to market demand and the needs of our passengers. As a regional leader, it is our obligation to drive the recovery of air transport, after all the challenges it has faced”. The company added, "Air Serbia will ensure even better connectivity between our region and Scandinavia, with convenient connections from Oslo via Belgrade to Sarajevo, Tivat, Podgorica, Skopje, Bucharest, Sofia, Thessaloniki and other destinations in the Serbian airline’s network".

Further flight details for the new Belgrade - Oslo service can be found here

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  1. Anonymous15:55

    Good for P2P and Connecting potential but 3 players now is quite a lot, probably a way to tell DY not to come/stay...

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    1. Anonymous20:39

      I think the only airline that count on connecting traffic is Air Serbia. And they seem to be counting on it.

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    2. Anonymous07:30

      Good for them, no?

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  2. Anonymous15:58

    Well that was a quick reaction to Wizz. Especially in terms of Milan too.

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    1. Anonymous16:09

      We were warned yesterday :D

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  3. Anonymous16:02

    The most ironic part is that in the year of corona Belgrade gets 11 new routes (and 2 more which might launch BUD-BEG and STR-BEG)

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    1. Anonymous16:09

      Crazy

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    2. Anonymous20:38

      Well that's excellent news when you look at it.

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    3. Ini to bud makes more sense then beg....

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    4. Anonymous07:31

      INI was already tried and it failed real bad. Such a shame, shame it is.

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  4. Anonymous16:02

    Congrats on the proactive approach.

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  5. Anonymous16:03

    Prices?

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    1. Anonymous16:08

      They still haven't loaded the prices in the system.

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    2. Anonymous17:12

      They are in now, return flight starting from €180. Flights on Thursday and Sunday.

      Thu
      06.55-08.55
      09.40-12.26

      Sun
      17.05-19.55
      20.40-23.25

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    3. Anonymous00:34

      Return flights are less than 100EUR on airserbia.com

      Sounds good to me!

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  6. Anonymous16:03

    Oslo and Barcelona are just waiting for the next one to fall - 3 carriers is a lot.
    I think DY will be out of OSL and VY out of BCN.

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    1. Anonymous16:04

      Agree

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    2. Anonymous16:15

      Great news from customers nonetheless.

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  7. Anonymous16:08

    wow

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  8. Anonymous16:10

    That pic in the article is actually from OSL! When were they there with their own plane??

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    1. Anonymous16:20

      Qualifier for Euro or world cup a few years ago. Brought the Serbian team to Oslo

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  9. Anonymous16:11

    Showdown between W6, DY and JU. I think DY will loose out considering their current state.

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    1. Anonymous16:13

      Well one should keep in mind that Wizz flies to Sandefjord which is 2 hours, yes two hours by car from gardermoen Airport.

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    2. Anonymous18:20

      Is two hours to Gardermoen. People need to go from the airport to the city not another airport.

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    3. Remind me on wizz paris airport. Too far. And conection to cdg!!!

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    4. Anonymous07:53

      It's not just Paris, it's their usual way of doing business. Flying into DTM in stead of DUS, FMM in stead of MUC and so on. Once you factor in the trip to your final destination it comes out to be the same price as the legacy airlines.

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  10. Anonymous16:16

    This is Geneva all over again when we had Etihad Regional, Swiss and easyjet flying the route. At the end only one prevailed. Same story will be here too.

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    1. Anonymous16:52

      Absolutely correct. Besides what was JU doing all the time? W6 are an opportunist airline and will immediately attack when they find a way to do it. I give this route an expiration date of 1 year max.

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    2. Anonymous17:06

      Not opportunist but predator! )) I would still prefer JU to prevail and keep the route!

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    3. Anonymous17:14

      JU has a better schedule, that's for sure guys. Also they will offer connections to SOF, SKG, TIA, OTP, SJJ, BNX and LJU plus the Croatian coast minus PUY (if those come back).

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    4. Anonymous18:28

      Case of the route from GVA to BEG was totally different then it is BCN-BEG. Etihad Regional was sold to Adria and then it went to bankruptcy. Swiss was changing its strategy so they cut most of the routes from GVA to larger cities and replaced them with leisure destinations like Pula, Corfu, Malaga, Antalya and so on. And so the last airline, EasyJet, became the only carrier to operate this route,

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    5. Swiss imposed 30chf tax on all flights

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  11. Anonymous16:20

    Nice!

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  12. Anonymous17:17

    WOW BRAVO!!! Finally Wizz is being slapped right across the face.

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    1. Anonymous17:34

      Wizz is launching 10 new routes and adding 1.3 million seats and you think two weekly flights to Oslo are a "slap across the face"... ok.

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    2. Anonymous17:37

      Are they adding 1.3 million seats or will they have 1.3 million seats after the expansion? Go on, tell us everything. Do it.

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    3. hahahaahhaah Wizz adds 1.3 million seats. Maybe on some planet Monkey😂

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    4. Anonymous18:38

      HAHAHAHHAAH that made my day, that's as if they are adding another 3 or 4 A321s

      HAHAHAHAHHA

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    5. Anonymous20:41

      They will have a total of over 1.3 million seats with just three planes which is really not something you should make fun of. I certainly think that claiming that Air Serbia has somehow slapped Wizz Air "right across the face" with two weekly flights to Oslo is quite stupid.

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    6. Anonymous07:32

      He said they will add another 1.3 not that they will have 1.3. please be more careful when reading comments.

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  13. Anonymous17:38

    Now all we need is for second A330 to arrive and to launch more flights to JFK and to launch China.

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    1. Anonymous18:08

      First try to replace old ATRs and 737 Classics with new aircrafts and than we can talk about new long haul flights.

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    2. I agree ✔️✔️✔️

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    3. Seems like new corona hoax will ground all planes again

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  14. I saw on the map, Oslo and Sandefjord are as far away as Belgrade and Morava airport. Okay, maybe that suits someone ...

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    1. Anonymous18:17

      Belgrade to Morava Airport is about 170 km, Oslo to Torp Sandefjord is about 120 km and Oslo to Gardermoen Airport is about 50 km. Its not like that you have airports which are really near to Oslo.

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  15. Anonymous18:13

    If the new service incentive at BEG is similar to many other airports, Wizz will get most discounts in the first year, less in second and discounts end after third. Air Serbia should monitor Wizz performance on new Wizz routes, let them bleed during slow 2020 and winter of 2021, and then in summer of 2021 Air Serbia should attack them by launching more destinations that compete with W6 best performers out of BEG. By that time Wizz should find better use for one of A321 elsewhere and will redeploy one frame out of Belgrade.

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    1. Anonymous18:35

      I hope W6 will bring more routes to BEG.
      I will enjoy watching airlines fighting for me as their customer.

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    2. Anonymous18:40

      Anon 18.35 well you are a valuable customer so I am sure they love fighting for you, you are wroth it. You are a great human being.

      What's good here is that there will be a fight and JU isn't backing down. Wizz thrives in markets where there is a weak local airline. Now let's see them and how they perform. Their schedule to that Norwegian village isn't the best.

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    3. Anonymous18:56

      "I will enjoy watching airlines fighting for me as their customer."

      Then you are not a Wizz customer from Tuzla. Wizz has no competition in Tuzla. Wizz is a big monopolist there. There is almost no competition at SKP and Wizz was steadily rising their prices making it more difficult for customers. You are also not the customer in ZAG as ZAG has no Ryan, Easy and Wizz. Wizz doesn't fight for customers at LJU desperate for more choice after Adria's demise. Wizz is not fighting for customers at TZL, SKP, ZAG, LJU not even BEG. They just want to see Air Serbia shut down so they can jack up prices and enjoy monopoly.

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    4. Anonymous22:48

      Of course I am great human being who enjoys low fares.

      The same way airline enjoys to rip you off if you need to fly with them in a near future.

      I have nothing to do with ZAG, SKP, TZL etc. And they are really far from my interest.

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    5. Anonymous22:59

      Your ignorance doesn't make any difference. Everything Anon 18:56 said about Wizz is true.

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    6. Anonymous23:13

      Good for them

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    7. Anonymous07:33

      They are also very expensive from BEG on some routes like BVA. ouch

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  16. Anonymous18:47

    While all of you are talking about the ongoing war between JU and W6 you are forgetting that JU has already claimed victory over YM. I don't see them surviving long with corona and not having flights to BEG. Have you see how dominant JU will be on BEG-MNE this July? I don't see YM making it until summer 2021.

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  17. Anonymous20:11

    Opet brza reakcija AS na novonastalu situaciju,svaka čast. Nadam se da je sledeća nabavka novih aviona. U jednom intervjuu dr.Nestorović je rekao da je fasciniran kako su cene u nekim segmentima zbog korone pojeftinile,a kao primer naveo kako su ErSrbiji ponuđeni avioni po ceni i 50% nižoj od uobičajene. Pa kad uzmemo izjave predsednice vlade i predsednika da se razmišlja o nabavci novih aviona,sve je moguće. Možda A320 neo i nije tako daleko?

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    1. Anonymous20:30

      Pojeftinili su većinom avioni za lease zasigurno su i to mislili uzeti. Ako bi već uzimali nove avione iz tvornice, A220-300 bi bio daleko najbolja opcija jer ipak Air Serbia ima najviše zrakoplova tog kapaciteta što znači da im je to očito najpopularniji avion u floti. Sad je kriza novaca nema pa bi bilo bolje prekriti minuse od ove godine. Ako već budu uzimati nove avione trebalo bi zamijeniti stare ATRove sa novima i Boinge sa novijim A319 iz leasa.

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    2. Anonymous08:20

      Ove godine su planirali letove za Aman i Rostov i verovatno će ih pokrenuti sledećeg leta što govori da im je strategija da se i dalje šire na istok i od Beograda naprave veliki Hab. Za letove na bliski istok i sve letove od preko 2 sata A320 neo je idealan avion a takvih destinacija je sve više uključujući i Oslo.10 je za početak bilo preoptimistočno ali 4-5 bi bilo idealno.

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    3. Anonymous09:01

      Veliki hub nema ni Belavia ni Tarom koji imaju vise aviona u floti. Prvo neka probaju zamijeniti prastare ATRove i Boeinge, a nakin toga možemo pričati o još long haula i A320neo. Ozbiljniji hub mogu imati tek sa eventualno 50 aviona u floti, a tko zna kad će se to dogoditi.

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    4. Nemjee09:22

      Таром не само да нема хаб/чвориште већ нема ни перспективу или шансе да дугорочно преживи. Дакле ја њих и не би користио као неки озбиљан пример. Што се Белавије тиче, они су слични Ер Србији јер су обе фирме политички пројекти.
      Уз све то, на основу чега смо дошло до закључка да се статус озбиљног чворишта може добити тек када компанија достигне 50 ваздухоплова? Мени се то чини као крајње неозбиљна изјава. О којим се авионима ради, да ли је довољно имати 50 АТР-ова или мораш имати ипак нешто веће? Да ли постоји неки минимум када су у питању таласи полазака... итд итд
      На крају крајева, чвориште је термин за пословни модел и он није везан за величину флоте већ шта се са њом ради. У томе је суштина целе приче. Дакле фирма са 5 авиона може имати чвориште уколико организује своје летове тако да се нуде преседања. Е сада, када већ имамо чвориште онда можемо додати придеве попут: малог, великог, смешног, трагичног, импресивног, растућег... да би окарактерисали о каквом се тачно чворишту ради.

      Што се мене тиче, Ер Србија гради своје чвориште на београдском аеродрому. Оно је и даље скромно али из године у годину оно се све више консолидује и расте. Не можемо очекивати да ЈУ након свега кроз шта су прошли (и они и држава у којој се налазе) да преко ноћи постану нека врста Лота или Остријан Ерлајнза. Битно је да је тренд раста ту и да су нашли пословни модел који њима одговара. Фирма може имати 500 авиона па пропасти. Величина флоте није параметар успеха. Да није било короне, ове године ЈУ би сигурно превезао 3 милиона путника. Штета. Биће боље у 2021. години.

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    5. Anonymous09:35

      Bravo Nejmee,svaka ti je na mestu. Letovi za Kinu će sigurno pomoći izgradnji ozbiljnijeg čvorišta

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    6. Anonymous10:09

      Ne bih rekao da Tarom nije sličan Air Srbiji. Ako se nevaram dobili su određene subvencije od države i polako i Tarom postaje jedna verzija političkog projekta. Sada preuzimaju 9 novih ATRova od Nordic Capital Leasinga i zamijenjuju ih sa starim ATRovima 42 i 72. Imaju i naručenih 5 737 Maxova koji bi trebali doći 2023. godine, a naručili su ih 2018. Iste godine su i dobili najnovije 737-800 preko leasinga. Uspili su smanjiti gubitak za oko 12 miliona € u 2018. godini. Za ovu godinu su planirali long haul letove ali zbog pandemije su zaustavili planove. U planu je navodno bio A330-900, a negdje u 2018. Taromovi dužnosnici su otišli u Everett pogledati dva 787-8 u storeagu. Istina je da možete napraviti uspješni hub & spoke model i sa 5 i sa 500 aviona, ali je ipak broj aviona važan koliko će vaš model konkurentan na tržištu. Ako imate 50 aviona u floti u kombinaciji 5 widebody, 20 mid size (A320 & 737), 15 regional jet (E190 & CRJ) i 10 turbopropa, tada imate i konkurentniji model na tržištu pa imate više šanse da će netko iz Bukurešta ili Atene u New York putovati baš preko vašeg huba zbog vecih frekvencija. Tada postajte konkurentniji većim hub & spoke igračima pa im praktički uzimate putnike koje su oni prije prevozili. Air Srbija može funkcionirati sa manjim brojem aviona u floti npr. 20 ili 30 ali do ozbiljnijeg igrača među transfernim prijevoznicima se postaje ipak sa nekom većom flotom te većim frekvencijama.

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    7. Nemjee10:26

      Прва транша помоћи коју је Таром добио од државе ће се ексклузивно искористити за плаћање лизинга, дакле не за раст или консолидацију саобраћаја. Иначе, од те суме мораће да издвоје и део новца за своје МАХ за које се не зна тачно када ће полетети, посебно не сада када су изашла нова сазнања о непоузданости авиона. Што се дуголинијског саобраћаја тиче, то није први пут да га најављују. Успостављање тих летова је нешто слично причи о обнови флоте Јат Ервјеза. Стално се нешто дешава, о томе се прича али на крају ништа се не деси. Уз све то, не заборавиво да су АТР-42 били у власништву Тарома док ови нови који им пристижу то нису. Уз пензиносање Б733 флоте њихови трошкови ће се знатно увећати. Дакле морамо сачекати и видети шта ће бити са њима имајући у виду све ове нове околности.
      Исто тако, не смемо заборавити једну јако битну чињеницу. Аеродром у Букурешту није погодан за улогу чворишта. Премали је за број путника који прође кроз њега. Дакле, без знатног улагања у инфраструктуру Букурешт неће моћи да игра неку озбиљнију улогу.
      Као што сам већ горе написао, најбитније је да ЈУ расте и да из године у годину консолидује своје пословање. Стабилизовали су се на многим тржиштима што је јако битно јер без јаке основе нема даљег ширења. Што се флоте тиче, не заборавимо да су се ипак у потпуности модернизовали тако што су скоро избацили 733 из редовног саобраћаја. АТР-ови јесу стари али не сви већ 3/6. Авиолет јесте криминалан али и он полако одлази у повест српског ваздухопловства. Већ прошле године А319/320 су обављали многе чартер летове. Дакле процес је отпочео само он мало дуже траје него што бисмо ми то волели. За крај, ЈУ се одлично поставила у овом периоду након короне. Реагују на промене на тржишту и јуре нове могућности где год да их има. Морамо им дати одређен период да окончају започет процес.

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    8. Anonymous15:41

      Složio bi se oko većine činjenica što ste rekli o Air Srbiji, polako se 737 izbacuje iz operacija, a ATRova starijih je malo pa se mogu na laki način zamijeniti. Samo bih rekao da bi Air Srbija malo trebala više brinuti o profitu, a ne samo o proširenju. No oko onoga što ste rekli za rumunjskog zrakoplovstvo se ne bi složio. Kroz Otopeni svake godine prođe oko 15 milijuna putnika što je više nego kroz Beograd i prikladan je za ulogu čvorišta. Proširenje terminala se dogodilo 2011. godine kada se nadogradili novi dio sa 15 gateova od toga ih 9 ima aviomostove. Uz to novi dio ima prikladanu infrastrukturu za transfere i dolaske, dva poslovna salona (Tarom i Mastercard), nekoliko većih duty free prostora te mnoge restorane. Takoder su godinu poslije otvorili novi dio za odlaske s više check in countera i za sada ih imaju 104 na cijelom aerodromu. Sada ima sveukupni kapacitet od 15 milijuna. Otopeni također ima dvije piste u funkciji, a Beograd će dobiti tek još jednu umetnutu za povremeno korištenje. Prošle godine je rumunjska vlada raspisala natječaj za novi terminal na Otopeniju u vrijednosti od 700 milijuna eura koji će imati kapacitet od 20 milijuna putnika što znači da će sveukupni kapacitet biti oko 35 milijuna putnika. Meni se ovo čini prikladno za čvorište. Vezano uz Tarom, tu se nebi složio da ne rade puno oko povećanja putnika. Uspoređujući 2017. i 2018. godinu, Tarom je povećao LF sa 71.6 na 74%, broj putnika za 410 000, broj flote za 2 737-800, a broj zaposlenih smanjio za 3. Uzimaju zrakoplove na leasing kao svaka kompanija u 21. stoljeću, nisu ludi da ih kupuju izravno iz tvornice. Osim nekih većih igrača i neuspješnih aviokompanija neznam tko to još radi. Oko long haula muljaju godinama, ali se ipak neki napredak vidi, npr. razgovarali se sa proizvođačima, leasing kućama i drugim aviokompanijama ( sa Xiamenom žele pokrenuri long haul prema Kini pa da imaju code share na liniji). Sve u svemu, mislim da će biti nešto od Taroma...

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    9. Nemjee16:41

      Не знам, ја сам неколико пута летео преко Отопенија и немам неко мишљење о том аеродрому. Сама зграда терминала није довољно широка те када крене укрцавање ред се формира и преко централног дела тако да се човек мора борити да прође. Уз све то, знате ли како изгледа искуство преседања? Изађете из авиона, попнете се горе, чекате у реду на пасошкој контроли да вам лупе печат а онда се тим истим степеницама вратите доле где пролазите КД контролу након које сте у главном делу терминала. Врло неефикасан систем. Истина, има две писте али оне су релативно близу тако да је простор између њих доста ограничен. Живо ме занима где ће саградити то проширење јер велики део простора између писти се састоји од стајанки. Што се Тарома тиче, верујем да они данас немају велики број трансфера. Недавно су покренули летове ка Одеси, Бакуу, Тбилисију... а колико се сећам већина тих линија је накнадно укинута. Таром је у истој/сличној ситуацији као ЈУ 2013. године. Ако желе да преживе њима је потребан неко са стране да их ресетује и да их стави на прави колосек. До тада... не верујем да ће се нешто посебно променити.

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    10. Anonymous20:18

      Otopeni možda po "specifikaciji" ima ozbiljan kapacitet ali je aerodrom katastrofa po "doživljaju". Ceo kao neki hodnik, gužva, vrućina, security katastrofa, organizacija loša, biznis lože na suncu bez posebne klime, ponuda loša. Poptuno neprilagođen nečemu što bi bio savremen aerodrom.
      Pozitivno je bilo što su počeli da grade metro do aerodroma zbog Euro2020 ali ne znam kakava je situacija sa time sad zbog korone, nisam bio negde od februara.

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    11. Anonymous21:13

      Nemjee
      Nastavak će se graditi na drugoj strani aerodroma (istoku) između dvije piste. Udaljenost izmedu dvije piste je 1300 metara što je slično/isto kako kod Barajasa ili Heathrowa, sasvim dovoljno za novi terminal. Za Tarom bi rekao da su ipak u boljoj situaciji nego JU 2013. godine jer ipak ima nekog napretka u rastu flote i putnika te smanjenja gubitaka.

      Anon 20:18
      Metro do aerodroma je plan za neku dalju budućnost, trenutačno rade željeznicu do aerodroma (produžetak od 2 kilometra, povezivat će aerodrom i Garu de Nord), a stanica će biti otvorena u kolovozu (augustu) ove godine.

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  18. Anonymous20:39

    Which of the three airlines is offering the best prices to OSL now?

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    1. Anonymous20:51

      I chose dates in mid July for all three:

      Air Serbia (lowest fare no checked in baggage) - EUR 100
      Wizz Air (lowest fare no checked in baggage) - EUR 124
      Norwegian (lowest fare no checked in baggage) EUR 230 *

      * I could only find the return flight from Oslo available in early August and they had just one seat left at the lowest fare level. The flight from Belgrade is very cheap. It seems that In July/August they are almost sold out on all flights from Oslo. On some days there is only 1 seat left in the most expensive fare category.

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    2. Anonymous21:34

      I'm not surprised about Norwegian. I think they normally have 3 flights per week. So they rebooked everyone on that one weekly flight.

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    3. Bus from sandefjord to oslo 1 way cost aprox 25€

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  19. Anonymous20:43

    I really don't see how this is going to be profitable for them. I realize they introduced this as a reaction to Wizz but is it really wise to loose so much money over one route?

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    1. Anonymous20:51

      With fares of just 100 euros they are not making any money for sure.

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    2. Anonymous21:01

      To su početne cene,kako se let bude popunjavao i cena će rasti

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    3. Anonymous07:17

      @20:51

      Why are you not worried about Wizz Air loosing money?

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    4. Anonymous08:00

      My friend, Belgrade-Oslo won't be profitable for anyone. I have a feeling DY will be the first to pack up and leave meaning JU will be left as the sole carrier on BEG-OSL, OSL being the premium and much desired airport serving the Norwegian capital city.
      That will leave passengers to chose between a premium airport or a glorified shack of an airport overlooking the fjords hundreds of kms from the city. I think the choice is pretty obvious, no?
      On top of all that, Wizz Air will have to rely on passengers from the wider region to drive to the Serbian capital in order to fly from its booming and rapidly growing regional hub. JU on the other hand offer connections from its regional network which has more potential.

      Long-term, I think Wizz Air won't do well while Air Serbia will. Hopefully by next summer we will see a third or a fourth weekly frequency on JU. I guess Wizz will eventually admit defeat and replace this destination with something else that suits them just fine like Kaunas, Palanga, Vaxjo, Dresden or some other German village no one has heard of.

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    5. Anonymous09:12

      @7.17 because it's one of the most profitable airlines in Europe. So they obviously know how to make money, unlike some.

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    6. Anonymous09:12

      Of course, Wizz will fail because of mighty Air Serbia. Air Serbia with 21 aircrafts in the fleet can beat the second largest LCC in Europe, but still they are not able to change 30 year lod ATRs and 737. If they are flying to Sandefjord thst doesnt mean that they will fail. They are flying to Beauvais and Memingen and still are not beated by Air France and Lufthansa.

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    7. Anonymous14:15

      My friend, of course Wizz Air is profitable today when for ten years Indigo Partners were pumping, not millions, but billions into them. When was the first time Wizz Air reported their financial results? It was not in 2004 when they were formed but much later. So please, don't forget where Wizz Air came from. As for this Norwegian village, don't forget that Wizz already failed there while DY survived. It won't be different this time around either. cmok

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    8. JATBEGMEL14:19

      Plural for aircraft is aircraft, not aircrafts.

      W6 has pulled out of routes ex BEG from competition with Jat, let alone Air Serbia. That doesnt mean W6 is the weaker carrier, they just need to find what works for them.

      Since you are talking on the older aircraft in the fleet, you 'forgot' to notice that many charters last season was on the Airbus fleet, JU will be replacing a few aircraft, while one A320 (YU-APG) was removed last week. There is less reliance on the B733 while it looks as they will replace them with more A319's. YU-APL is in TLS painted and waiting delivery, along with YU-APM. The B733's havnt flown for a while now.

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    9. Anonymous14:22

      Also let's not forget that Norway was not very successful for them in general, I think they suspended almost all Luton-Norway flights.

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    10. JATBEGMEL15:08

      It doesnt mean they will not succeed.

      JU pulled out of both IST and KBP and yet theyre back, and growing.

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  20. Anonymous21:32

    JU in its Oslo ads is emphasising the distance of Gardermoen from Oslo. Obviously trying tl make a point against Wizz that flies to Sandefjord.

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  21. Anonymous22:26

    Guys, look at Wizzair’s performance on Skavsta, they have reduced to two weekly. On top of that Norwegian was competing directly with JU to ARN. Norwegian reduced to one weekly and then pulled out. Seems JU can fight against both Wizz and Norwegian on Scandinavian routes! Go Air Serbia!

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    1. Anonymous22:37

      Norwegian didn't pull out, they are simply operating 1% of their network.

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    2. Anonymous08:03

      My friend, Norwegian did not pull out of ARN-BEG, they have merely suspended it due to the ongoing (made up) pandemic. It will be back this summer with one weekly frequency on Fridays.

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  22. Anonymous23:50

    Less than 100€ RT trip JU is not bad at all. The only slight downside is perhaps the schedule with the early morning departure:



    JU
    Рейс JU-450
    Airbus A319
    Эконом-класс
    06:05
    16 июля 2020, Четверг
    БелградBEG
    2 ч 50 мин
    08:55
    16 июля 2020, Четверг
    ОслоOSL
    Средняя задержка: неизвестна
    Подробнее о рейсе
    Только ручная кладь
    Багаж: не включен
    Air Serbia

    JU
    Рейс JU-451
    Airbus A319
    Эконом-класс
    09:40
    23 июля 2020, Четверг
    ОслоOSL
    2 ч 45 мин
    12:25
    23 июля 2020, Четверг
    БелградBEG
    Средняя задержка: неизвестна
    Подробнее о рейсе
    Только ручная кладь
    Багаж: не включен

    Итого: 96,95€

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    1. Anonymous09:15

      You think that they can make profit from round trips less than 100€?

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    2. JATBEGMEL13:56

      144 seats will not be sold at that price.

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    3. Anonymous14:54

      Na sajtu AS lepo piše da je po toj ceni samo 5 mesta,ali neki žele da vide iskrivljeno.

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  23. JATBEGMEL23:53

    I wouldnt be surprised to see HEL being relaunched.

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    1. Anonymous08:05

      HEL wasn't indefinitely suspended, it is planned for next summer so don't be surprised when it's brought back. Wizz Air seems to have woken up the sleeping two headed eagle who is hungry after a long period of hibernation. I have a feeling a certain pink muffin is on the menu.

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    2. Anonymous08:59

      Hahaha, perfect one!

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    3. Anonymous09:17

      I fear the two headed eagle will choke on the pink muffin. Considering what the pink muffin has achieved compared to the two headed eagle which has closed 10 routes this summer vs the pink muffin that is launching 140.

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    4. Anonymous14:16

      And how many routes has the pink muffin cut in the process? BEG is their only eastern European base to grow, all others are shrinking. So it seems that the pink muffin isn't as strong as some want to think they are. One is reality and another are your deepest desires.

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    5. Anonymous14:25

      They suspend routes where their avarage LF is not over 90% and where they don't make a profit. Air Serbia would kill for the loads Wizz Air had on some of the routes they suspended.

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    6. Anonymous14:33

      Why would they kill for something that was deemed unprofitable? They can get those loads if they start selling one way tickets for 1.700 RSD tax included.

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    7. Anonymous14:35

      They would kill for it because they have poorer loads and profits.

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    8. Anonymous14:38

      I am sure Wizz Air would equally so kill to have LH's or AF's prestige and reputation but I guess we can't have it all. Am I right or am I right?

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    9. Anonymous14:39

      Dzaba ti prestige whem they both need billions in bailouts. So I guess you are wrong. They couldn't care less.

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    10. Anonymous15:16

      And what are we going to do about the aid Wizz Air UK received from the British government? Oopsie

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    11. Anonymous15:46

      Oopsie that's a loan that has to be paid back.

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    12. Anonymous16:28

      Doesn't matter, most other airlines received aid as well in the form of a loan. If Wizz was so strong and successful then they wouldn't need that charity like LH, JU, AF and others.

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    13. Anonymous16:45

      LH and AF both received close to 9 billion. Wizz Air got 300 million. So yes, there's a difference.

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    14. Anonymous16:49

      Airlines got aid depending on how useful and important they are. If wizz went bankrupt would anyone really try to save them?

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    15. Anonymous16:51

      Be thankful they are around otherwise our airport would have 20 routes less, Air Serbia wouldn't bother with many routes they have and prices on most routes would be 300 euro return. Your blind obsession with Air Serbia prevents you to see that competition is good, useful and beneficial.

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    16. Anonymous17:57

      "prevents you to see that competition is good, useful and beneficial. "

      Once Wizz allows airports to invite competition at Tuzla and other airports where they have monopoly and exclusive contract. Or stop applying for subsidies at airports like SKP where they have near monopoly. Wizz also needs help seeing "that competition is good, useful and beneficial."

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    17. Anonymous20:52

      Interesting that next week JU will have 10 weekly to Zurich and then 13 the week after and then 14 the week after that. Nice to see them build up this destination.

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    18. Anonymous07:19

      Nice... and Wizz Air still doesn't fly to Zurich, says a lot about them. The number one route from Beligrad.

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  24. JATBEGMEL13:51

    @ 08,05

    I meant I wouldnt be surprised to see it brought back earlier, not next year when Wizz has had time to settle into the market.

    @ 09,17

    I could be missing something but JU has closed 8 routes not 10:

    GVA, AMM, LWW, KIV, HEL, ROV, FLR, CAI.

    BEY was temporarily suspended before Corona, and HAM was cancelled completely before Corona.

    By the end of the month JU should be back to almost their full network, and by mid July many of their frequencies to these destinations reinstated. OSL was just launched and they increased frequencies for FRA (+4) and TXL (+3).

    You need to take into consideration that JU and W6 have different business models. W6 has been moving aircraft around Europe and launching large amount of new routes because it needed to. This is something not seen in other carriers with a similar model to JU (ie A3, AF, LH, OS, LO).

    A321 will be a large aircraft for them to fill, good luck to them filling it, but I guess they need to send them somewhere.

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    1. Anonymous14:24

      Air Serbia has also suspended Rijeka.

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    2. Anonymous14:25

      Yes, in January 2020 if I am not wrong.

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    3. Anonymous14:27

      Yes you are wrong. The route was suspended last month. It was supposed to operate this summer.

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    4. Anonymous14:34

      Do you have a source that it is not coming back this summer?

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    5. Anonymous14:41

      Yes the source is AIR SERBIA. But I guess you are going to deny their press statement because it contradicts with your parallel universe.

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    6. JATBEGMEL15:05

      @14,39

      RJK is no longer available for reservations.

      In Croatia, the destinations are:

      - DBV (03.07)
      - PUY (10.07)
      - SPU (28.06)
      - ZAD (11.07)
      - ZAG (01.07)

      I guess we will have to wait and see what will be, like all other airlines flights are still be updated.

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    7. Anonymous15:17

      so no official statement about the termination of RJK for this summer?

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    8. Anonymous15:45

      Yes there is. It was also reported here. Dated 8th of May. Sorry to burst your bubble

      https://www.airserbia.com/en/information/flights/travel-information-coronavirus/news?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=597c99e8e8792202b7dec7e54e624d94869c3992-1592660610-0-AY5AfxvQf5ofc-J-W9-n3Urev0-m0gg8BaWcv5nT8tqW08_8tJ_IMklfVRPqeB4HUlJmtDDdrDUcYOpX6PjCYA9bWPlWwG7nzLnqYkBW8wB85hcNFkmwvmAz2jk9ZVkTfhEXTcmUDmAv-NzwLzLtTJ0KlXlI_TlboVVmqFWRpFuWfVITGKRzwydX0FK3wtO-hABbrXBWfcgoWO5c48kLX0iMQ6t-VXMPKC-_O6UiIbJIMG8kshX5Q-cu4yISPpclOgDG_tIzmEQ0Q7YZTW5MN4h_rZaDnSP6iwmFOICK8mVcSNivWW16VafFs4KNFzGa0Vc7P_Lp5rgFMzjmCidrIm_BJuwCAU_njjDjf5pRjzFk

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    9. Anonymous18:04

      In a season of expected record low tourist numbers on Croatian coast, Air Serbia keeping service alive to five out of six coastal airports is a huge benefit for Croatia. Many other operators cancelled or postponed far more than just one sixt of services to coastal destinations in Croatia. If anything, Croatia should welcome Air Serbia's commitment to their coast.

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