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Turkish overtakes Lufthansa as busiest carrier in Slovenia

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Turkish Airlines has continued to perform strongly on its flights between Istanbul and Ljubljana, positioning itself as the busiest carrier in Slovenia during the January - October period. According to the European Statistical Office Eurostat, the Turkish flag carrier welcomed 145.539 passengers between the two cities during the ten-month period. Turkish Airlines’ passenger numbers on its Ljubljana flights have increased 52.8% on last year and are up 9.2% on the pre-pandemic 2019. Istanbul was Ljubljana’s busiest individual destination during the January - October period, ahead of London (all airports combined). On its 1.030 flights between the two cities (includes operations in each direction), the carrier utilised the Airbus A321 aircraft on 33% of rotations, with the A320, A330 and Boeing 737-800 jets deployed on the remaining services.

Ljubljana passenger performance for select routes, JAN - OCT 2023


Lufthansa has placed as Ljubljana’s second busiest carrier, having taken top spot in 2022. The German airline, which maintains operations from both Frankfurt and Munich to the Slovenian capital, handled a combined total of 141.365 passengers during the January - October period. Passenger numbers on flights from the two German cities are still notably down on the same period in 2019 when Slovenia’s former national carrier Adria Airways was the sole operator on the two routes. Back then, it handled a combined total of 184.570 passengers over the six-month period. Between January and October of this year, Lufthansa used the CRJ900 jet on 94% of its Ljubljana flights.

Hurghada, which is served on a regular charter basis, saw the largest increase in passenger numbers compared to four years ago, while among scheduled routes, the biggest growth was recorded by LOT Polish Airlines, which improved its result by almost 40%. Among carriers that operated to Ljubljana in 2019, Air Serbia improved its result this year. Although easyJet improved its figures on the London Gatwick route, it no longer maintains operations from London Stansted or Berlin to the Slovenian capital as it did four years ago.



December 30, 2023
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  1. Anonymous09:04

    That A321NEO is a thing of beauty

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  2. Anonymous09:05

    Not surprised. They are a good airline

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  3. Anonymous09:05

    Can someone explain how come such growth for LOT?

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    1. Anonymous09:06

      No more Adria flying to Scandinavia and they are getting the transfer passengers.

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    2. Anonymous09:44

      Strong transfer market to Eastern Europe, Scandinavia and even North America

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    3. Anonymous10:45

      LOT have a very good service and mostly prices and quite short transfer times to New York, Toronto and Chicago. Their Dreamliners were the best choice. Plus transfer via WAW is much hassle-free compared to bigger airports such as FRA or CDG.

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    4. Anonymous17:27

      I wonder how and if Air Baltic will affect them in LJU and SKP on their transfers to Scandinavia and eastern Europe.

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    5. Nemjee06:56

      I think most passengers flying with BT will be going to the Nordic region from LJU. Don't see many flying via RIX to eastern Europe.
      I still believe LO mostly carriers transfers to all of Europe as well as to North America.

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  4. Anonymous09:07

    Well deserved

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  5. Anonymous09:07

    Quite a good result by Air Serbia

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  6. Anonymous09:08

    Is it possible to calculate the load factor for the Nis flight?

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      Yes it is possible

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    2. EX-YU Aviation09:13

      The average cabin load factor for the January - October period was 84.5%

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    3. Anonymous09:14

      That is actually suprisingly good

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    4. Anonymous09:18

      they should add third rotation...

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    5. JSG09:29

      Is LJU - INI route a PSO one?

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    6. Nemjee09:31

      Yes, it's PSO and from what I know JU can't add more flights unless the agreement is modified. Though I am sure the government wouldn't be against adding more flights from INI.

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    7. Anonymous09:44

      Would be great to have Nis 4 times a week

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    8. Anonymous10:04

      i think nis is performing slightly worse than in 2022.

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    9. Anonymous10:09

      They operated A319 in 2020 on this route so this could be reason why…

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    10. Anonymous10:11

      ^ what does 2020 have to do with 2022. And flights in 2020 stopped in March.

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    11. Anonymous10:15

      Anon 10:11 I meant in 2022.

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    12. EX-YU Aviation10:15

      Passenger numbers on the Niš route are up 9.0% year-on-year and over 400% on 2019, however, it only commenced in August of that year.

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    13. Anonymous10:16

      @10.15 no, it was operated by ATR72 in 2022 and as we see, numbers have actually improved this year.

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    14. Anonymous10:39

      nice, so maybe when they get additional ATRs we will see nis increased?

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    15. Anonymous17:29

      Yhey planned to increase it on three weekly idk what happend. I want to see how SKP-LJU affects this route as those statistics above are until October and LJU started in late September.

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    16. Anonymous17:37

      LJU to Skopje in October was 3861 passengers.

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    17. NoraBassaYou07:48

      So the LF for LJU to Skopje in October was almost 80%.

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    18. Anonymous11:04

      @Nora you better calculate it one more time

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    19. NoraBassaYou09:17

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    20. NoraBassaYou09:20

      My calculation is based on the following data:
      SKP - LJU - SKP = 6 flights PW (Tue + Thu + Sat)
      4 weeks in October + 2 flights (Tue 31st Oct) = (4 x 6) + 2 = 26 flights in October. If I remember correctly, WIZZ mostly used the A320, there were also a few flights with the A321, so I used the assumption that 200 seats were available for each flight, i.e.: 26 x 200 = 5200 seats in October and from this it follows 3861/5200 = 0.7425. Anon 11:04, if you have more accurate data, or if you think my calculation is based on wrong assumptions, please correct me. I will be very happy with any of your comments or new information, because for us aviation enthusiasts (who are not directly professionally connected to the aviation industry), accurate data is difficult to access and sometimes we have to operate only with assumptions.

      PS: HNY2024

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    21. Anonymous11:52

      they had two weekly that month (wed , sun). I think they started in Nov with 3 weekly (or the last Oct week). So its either 18 or 20 flights that month

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  7. Nemjee09:09

    Very good result by JU. Let's see where BEG lands at the end of the year given the fact JU actually boosted LJU during that period. Overall BEG-LJU is a solid performer and hopefully JU boosts it to 21 weekly in summer.

    Is it me or is LJU-MUC missing from the table? With Adria long gone, Lufthansa Group is now forced to compete on a more equal footing with the rest. There is no more JP to shuttle people to their hubs at discounted fares.

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    1. Anonymous09:11

      Agree, very good result for JU.
      MUC is under Dubai.

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    2. Anonymous09:22

      i guess next year frankfurt and munich will be back on 2019 numbers since frankfurt is planned to be triple daily and munich double daily.

      the only really big drop will stay amsterdam (if we exclude non existing routes). -60% on 2019 ... i think KLM should start daily

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    3. Nemjee09:37

      Anon 09.11
      Thank you! I guess my morning coffee still hasn't kicked in.

      Anon 09.22
      Indeed. When it comes to LH Group in LJU the only potential threat is AF-KL. Until they become more aggressive Lufthansa will keep on profiting. I guess LO, JU and TK are what is keeping OS away from LJU. I don't think they are ready to fight them with their relatively high costs and a relatively large plane for such a small market (E95).

      I think LJU should work with Wizz Air to add more sunshine destinations in summer. They can always stimulate them to operate something like BEG-HER-LJU-HER-BEG or to introduce such W pattern flights from any other base out there.

      LJU will stagnate soon in terms of destinations so now it's up to the management to actually stimulate others to become creative. Ryanair is adding holidays destinations from ZAG and they need to think along similar lines.

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    4. Anonymous17:06

      Anon 9:22, it's been one year that LH has announced there will be 3 daily FRA and 2 daily MUC.
      The second daily MUC flight never happened, and the third FRA flight is barely operating...
      It is such a shame that LH is doing nothing with LJU potential, and that we almost always see their CRJ-900-

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    5. Anonymous17:59

      What are u talking about. There will be 3 daily frankfurt and double daily munich. Munich is a319, frankfurt is mix in summer

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    6. Anonymous18:42

      Anon 17:06 is correct. Big announcements came after previous summer season as well. Third FRA flight (which actually operated on some days in peak season, but not daily as announced). Second morning flight to MUC was announced but never operated. Than morning 6am flight to MUC was put in the system for S24, but later changed to midday flight. So much of scepticism about LH announcements is fully justified.

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    7. Anonymous18:43

      Sorry, those announcements were published BEFORE S23.

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  8. Anonymous09:10

    This is why I'm surprised that Turkish is not increasing frequencies to LJU next year.

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      Maybe they will its still time…

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    2. Anonymous09:14

      It would be nice to have a midday flight to Istanbul

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  9. Anonymous09:12

    So next year we are getting additional daily flight to each Frankfurt and Munich, increased Transavia flights to Paris, Air Baltic to Riga, Corendon to Heraklion and Antalya, Iberia to Madrid, Norwegian to Copenhagen. Anything else?

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    1. Anonymous09:27

      Swiss from 9 weekly to 14, Aegean year round.

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    2. Anonymous09:28

      Isn’t Aegean coming back sooner? Also transavia to paris and British to london are coming back sooner and with more frequency.

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    3. Anonymous09:35

      British Flying to London year around in 2023

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    4. Anonymous09:35

      BA can't come sooner as they are year round.

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    5. Anonymous09:42

      It's not a lot but Ams route is going from 737 to a321 so about 50 pax more per rotation

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    6. Anonymous10:30

      I think this summer Montenegro can fly both Podgorica and Tivat 6 time per week.

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    7. Anonymous10:34

      Air Montenegro will fly both TGD and TIV in summer instead of switching from TGD to TIV.

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    8. Anonymous16:08

      Aegean is returning in April already and they will keep operations in W24/25, which will be the first time.

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    9. Anonymous18:17

      So including all additions and upgrades on routes, I think Lju could easily reach 1.5 mil next year. And my guess is that there will still be one or two new routes added until the start of summer season

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    10. Anonymous21:50

      Yes, 1.5 mio should be achievable. Maybe 1.6.

      I still wait for wizzair and airfrance to add some frequency for summer.

      For new routes i guess we could see berlin back?

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    11. Anonymous23:17

      But who would operate Berlin?

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    12. Anonymous23:21

      Easyjet, eurowings

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    13. Nemjee06:59

      I am sure JU will keep these midday flights as well in summer. Maybe they bring back the Embraer on BEG-LJU like they planned this winter before they started cutting left and right.

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  10. Anonymous09:14

    Amsterdam being behind Dubai just shows how underdeveloped the Amsterdam route is. I remember adria flying it 2x daily amd Transavia 4x weekly

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    1. Anonymous09:15

      Facts

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    2. Anonymous09:15

      Adria was daily.

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    3. Anonymous09:23

      I'm pretty sure they had morning departure (around 7-8) and one around 15/00. I could be wrong

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    4. Anonymous09:28

      Yes they were double daily. Flew them quite often.

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    5. Anonymous09:33

      Summer 2019: 6 weekly
      Summer 2018 6 weekly
      Summer 2017: 6 weekly
      Summer 2016: 4 weekly
      Summer 2015: 3 weekly

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    6. Anonymous09:41

      Well maybe we are all delusional here but i would bet my life on them flying the route 2x daily on some days xD

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    7. Anonymous10:07

      https://www.blog.uporabnastran.si/2019/03/19/adria-airways-s-poletnim-voznim-redom-2019-z-vec-leti-iz-ljubljane-v-munchen-skopje-in-zurich-ne-bo-pa-letela-v-moskvo-varsavo-bukaresto/

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  11. Anonymous09:23

    For those wondering about ATH with Aegean:
    2023: 10 614
    Compared to 2016: 5646

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      source?

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    2. Anonymous13:57

      Thats some pretty good numbers considering ATH-LJU was seasonal only for the summer season. Wondering how the route is gonna perform now that it starts earlier in April and upgrades to year-round.

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    3. Anonymous14:01

      According to SiStat

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  12. Anonymous10:07

    Just imagine how Slovenia Air will wipe out all those airlines when they start their A330 opertions to Hong Kong and Mars

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      Hahahahahaha

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  13. Anonymous10:23

    dont forget in 2019 we had (and we dont have in 2023):
    - london stansted with 120.288 pax
    - moscow with 75.941 pax
    - tirana with 52.390 pax
    - vienna with 45.209 pax
    - berlin with 38.631 pax
    - pristina with 37.807 pax (kinda back?)
    - CPH with 25.967 pax (coming back in 2024)
    - sarajevo with 21.975 pax

    total - 420 pax

    All london airports (gatwick, stansted, luton) in 2019 had 226.953 pax.


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      its crazy to me ryanair doesnt fly Ljubljana - Stansted. Easyjet served in 2019 as many pax as ryanair will serve this year to zagreb.

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    2. Anonymous10:59

      10:36, you are absolutely right. STN has become as important as LGW. Even legacy carriers fly there. LJU needs at least 2 daily STN flights (typical in most EU capitals) early morning flight departure from STN and late evening departure from LJU.

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    3. Anonymous11:57

      LGW is rather full and congested in the Summer. Stansted is now starting to become attractive to many Airlines. Although nowhere near central London , Stansted has excellent connections by both train and Bus and is way better then Luton.

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    4. Anonymous12:17

      Indeed. Stansted has improved significantly. Gatwick is also a great airport, but with so many leisure flights in summer like you say, it becomes very busy. Still stuns me how they manage such a huge traffic with 1 sole runway in LGW.
      Stansted indeed has excellent connections and even used by Emirates, Lufthansa and very soon Royal Jordanian but it is quite highly dominated by Ryanair. Their network there is beyond impressive connecting almost every European village even. This is why Maribor should return to their network and Beograd be included.

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  14. Anonymous10:23

    Admin do you have numbers for Podgorica/Tivat?

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      this year 20.933 pax lj-montenegro, in 2019 50.061 pax

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  15. Anonymous12:10

    Technically speaking, London is the second busiest route in LJU. 65+36+35= 135 thousand passengers in the 3 busiest airports and this is with the significant Wizz decrease to Luton. Having such a variety shows that traffic is probably p2p in LJU while TK is more transfer than p2p. Only shows that there is room for much more London flights It still remains a very important European capital with the largest number of airports in the continent. If placed in one, it even surpasses Istanbul having 2 airports.

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      british daily and ryanair daily would be a nice start. wizz will not fly to luton in feb and march.

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    2. Anonymous13:10

      No wonder. I flew with them last week on this route and LF was around 70%.

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    3. Anonymous16:26

      I prefer to drive to trieste and fly to stansted than flying from Ljubljana to luton

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    4. Anonymous21:42

      Same here. I believe FR still operates KLU-STN as well, as an alternative. Though BA to LHR is still my top choice!

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    5. Anonymous21:51

      Yeah … i see them flying double daily in summer 25.

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  16. Anonymous12:44

    Are the Luxembourg numbers available anywhere?

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      September: 481
      October: 854
      Total: 1.335

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  17. Anonymous20:13

    Well the LH group is still mich larger at LJU

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  18. Anonymous20:44

    AY big fail in numbers from 2019. Bad LF or TK dominate from asia turist market?

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  19. Anonymous11:46

    Hopefully route Ljubljana - Athens can come in top 10 and keeps it steady.

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      It is ahead of Niš. It had 10 614 pasengers.

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      no chance of top 10 with 2 weekly. how do you imagine that?

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