Skip to main content
  • Home

Search This Site

EX-YU Aviation News

EX-YU Aviation News

  • About
  • Vintage
  • Trip Reports
  • Newsletter
  • Support
  • Home
  • About
  • Vintage
  • Trip Reports
  • Newsletter
  • Support

EX-YU VINTAGE


Dubrovnik Airport, 1974

Labels

ACI Air Adria Airways Adria Airways Switzerland Adria Tehnika Air Croatia Air Montenegro Air Serbia Amelia International Archive files Banja Luka
Belgrade BH Airlines Bihać bosnia and herzegovina Bosnian Wand Airlines Brač Covid-19 croatia croatia airlines Dalmatian Dubrovnik ETF Airways European Coastal Airlines Feature Fleet Fly Air41 Airways FlyBosnia Focus Jat Airways Jat Tehnika jobs Kon Tiki Sky Kosovo Kraljevo Limitless Airways Livery Ljubljana Lošinj low cost airline macedonia Maribor Mat Airways MAT Macedonian Airlines montenegro montenegro airlines mostar MRO New route Newsflash Niš Ohrid Osijek Photo podgorica portorož Pragusa.One Priština Privatisation PROMO Pula Results 2008 Results 2009 Results 2010 Results 2011 Results 2012 Results 2013 Results 2014 Results 2015 Results 2016 Results 2017 Results 2018 Results 2019 Results 2020 Results 2021 Results 2022 Results 2023 Results 2024 Results 2025 Rijeka Ryanair safety sarajevo Sea Air serbia service Skopje Sky Srpska slovenia Smile Air Split Summer 2009 Summer 2010 Summer 2011 Summer 2012 Summer 2013 Summer 2014 Summer 2015 Summer 2016 Summer 2017 Summer 2018 Summer 2019 Summer 2020 Summer 2021 Summer 2022 Summer 2023 Summer 2024 Summer 2025 Summer 2026 tivat ToMontenegro Trade Air Trebinje Trip report Tuzla Užice VLM Airlines Winter 2008/09 Winter 2009/10 Winter 2010/11 Winter 2011/12 Winter 2012/13 Winter 2013/14 Winter 2014/15 Winter 2015/16 Winter 2016/17 Winter 2017/18 Winter 2018/19 Winter 2019/2020 Winter 2020/2021 Winter 2021/2022 Winter 2022/2023 Winter 2023/2024 Winter 2024/2025 Winter 2025/2026 Wizz Air Zadar zagreb
Show more Show less

Archive

  • June21
  • May83
  • April80
  • March80
  • February73
  • January84
  • December81
  • November83
  • October83
  • September79
  • August80
  • July83
  • June76
  • May84
  • April81
  • March77
  • February78
  • January81
  • December83
  • November83
  • October84
  • September84
  • August87
  • July84
  • June80
  • May84
  • April79
  • March84
  • February75
  • January81
  • December79
  • November79
  • October80
  • September81
  • August81
  • July79
  • June79
  • May80
  • April75
  • March84
  • February76
  • January79
  • December83
  • November78
  • October78
  • September79
  • August86
  • July98
  • June99
  • May93
  • April93
  • March92
  • February83
  • January93
  • December94
  • November77
  • October80
  • September79
  • August79
  • July86
  • June84
  • May86
  • April82
  • March95
  • February74
  • January79
  • December82
  • November77
  • October84
  • September80
  • August82
  • July84
  • June75
  • May79
  • April76
  • March75
  • February73
  • January80
  • December80
  • November79
  • October77
  • September73
  • August70
  • July80
  • June75
  • May76
  • April72
  • March75
  • February71
  • January78
  • December74
  • November72
  • October75
  • September69
  • August65
  • July73
  • June73
  • May74
  • April67
  • March72
  • February64
  • January72
  • December73
  • November70
  • October70
  • September70
  • August56
  • July68
  • June72
  • May73
  • April56
  • March31
  • February29
  • January34
  • December31
  • November30
  • October31
  • September31
  • August31
  • July31
  • June30
  • May31
  • April30
  • March31
  • February28
  • January31
  • December31
  • November30
  • October31
  • September30
  • August31
  • July31
  • June30
  • May31
  • April30
  • March31
  • February28
  • January31
  • December31
  • November30
  • October30
  • September30
  • August31
  • July31
  • June30
  • May31
  • April30
  • March31
  • February28
  • January31
  • December32
  • November30
  • October31
  • September30
  • August31
  • July31
  • June30
  • May31
  • April30
  • March31
  • February29
  • January31
  • December31
  • November30
  • October31
  • September30
  • August31
  • July31
  • June30
  • May31
  • April30
  • March31
  • February28
  • January31
  • December32
  • November31
  • October31
  • September30
  • August31
  • July31
  • June30
  • May32
  • April31
  • March31
  • February28
  • January31
  • December31
  • November30
  • October31
  • September31
  • August31
  • July31
  • June30
  • May31
  • April30
  • March32
  • February29
  • January31
  • December30
  • November30
  • October31
  • September30
  • August30
  • July31
  • June31
Show more Show less


Ryanair CEO: Ljubljana Airport “simply too expensive”

  • Get link
  • Facebook
  • X
  • Pinterest
  • Email
  • Whatsapp
  • Telegram
  • Reddit
  • Linkedin
  • Other Apps

Ryanair’s CEO Eddie Wilson has ruled out the introduction of flights to Ljubljana, claiming the airport there is too expensive for the budget carrier. Furthermore, Mr Wilson criticised the Slovenian government’s decision to sell Ljubljana’s airport operator to Germany’s Fraport in 2015. It comes after Ryanair unveiled plans to open a base in nearby Trieste this summer. The carrier will station a Boeing 737 MAX 8 jet in the Italian city, which is located 115 kilometres from Ljubljana Airport, and launch new two weekly services to Berlin, Brindisi, Krakow, Beauvais, and Seville from March 31, complementing twelve existing destinations. Slovenia is currently the only European Union member state to which Ryanair does not operate any flights.

Speaking to reporters in Trieste, Mr Wilson said, “Slovenia and Greece are the only two countries that sold their airport infrastructure to foreigners, which in my opinion is a short-sighted move. Since foreign investors are not interested in the development of the region, they are only interested in profit. Therefore, unfortunately, Ryanair does not invest in Ljubljana, because it is simply too expensive”. The Slovenian government granted Fraport the right to operate Ljubljana Airport’s infrastructure for a period of 99 years after the German company acquired the airport’s operator. Mr Wilson said Trieste was selected as a base after the municipal government abolished local airport taxes.

Ryanair has shown interest in Ljubljana on numerous occasions. It last held talks with the Slovenian government in January 2023. Ljubljana Airport has previously said it held talks with Ryanair noting, “We welcome all airlines that fit into our business model”. It also denied that it is an expensive airport. General Manager, Babett Stapel, noted late last year, “We would like to set the record straight - our charges aren't keeping airlines from taking flight. Market size is a key factor”. Ms Stapel pointed out that discounts are offered to new carries launching flights to Slovenia and that Fraport Slovenija's fees are competitive.


February 01, 2024
Feature Ljubljana low cost airline Ryanair slovenia
  • Get link
  • Facebook
  • X
  • Pinterest
  • Email
  • Whatsapp
  • Telegram
  • Reddit
  • Linkedin
  • Other Apps

Comments

  1. Anonymous09:01

    What a surprise

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous09:16

      Typical Ryanair...

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Anonymous12:09

      Ryanair will only grow! And so can your jealousy too! Slovenia doesn't bend down to Ryanair, but it does to Germans. How much money it gives to Lufthansa? 😅 It's funny. Who benefits from it? Not many.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    3. Anonymous12:46

      Знате, мало је непрофесионално је да Рајан причао о, у овом случају, Љубљани у Трсту. Испада да је кисело грожђе или врше притисак на Љубљану. А у Загребу, где је локални превозник пупчаном врпцом везан за ЛХ, онда је то у реду и нема проблема. Барем за Вас.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    4. Anonymous15:44

      In this case Ryan CEO has right. To sell airport to foreign company for 99 years is stupid

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    5. Anonymous18:54

      Аеродром у Љубљани није продат. Он је дат у концесију. Макар, како Ви кажете, на 99 година. Али је дат у концесију. Да ли је он, мислим на директора Рајана, порески обвезник републике Словеније, па сад нешто приговара?

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    6. Anonymous18:57

      Nije dat u koncesiju. Procitajte clanak lepo je sve objasnjeno. Operater aerodroma je prodat (privatizovan) za sva vremena, a drzava je toj firmi odobrila da 99 godina upravlja aerodromskom infrastrukturom. Znaci nema nikakve reci o koncesiji.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    7. Anonymous20:53

      Да сте мало боље прочитали видели би ово: "Словеначка влада је Фрапорту дала право да управља инфраструктуром љубљанског аеродрома на период од 99 година након што је немачка компанија преузела оператера аеродрома." Нигде не пише да су Словенци продали аеродром у Љубљани. А то што су га дали у закуп на 99 година је ординарна глупост, а и не знамо услове закупа.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    8. Reply
  2. Anonymous09:01

    And market size in trieste is do much bigger ghan in ljubljana, right.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous09:40

      Yes it is actually. It is a rich city, it attracts traffic from all of Istria and western Slovenia, it has train connections to loads of Italian cities and villages in the region. Italy has huge business travel and tourism.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Anonymous09:42

      And the fees (according to Fraport website, at least) are, although not the lowest, still comparable to Zagreb

      What Ryanair really wants is to get a shitload of subsidies to fly to LJU

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    3. Anonymous10:08

      09:40: right. and 100km away there are 2 ryanair bases. And no, trieste is not richer than ljubljana region. sure italy has huge business and travel tourism but not trieste.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    4. Anonymous10:54

      Lol, Trieste is a rich city? Maybe 50 years ago...

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    5. Anonymous10:59

      Trieste is named in the top three cities for living in Italy. It is a student city and has one of the biggest seaports in Europe, its the main sorce for import for Austria. So i wouldnt say that Trieste doesnt has huge bussines and travel tourism.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    6. Anonymous11:28

      It has a far higher GDP per capita then Belgrade does.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    7. Anonymous11:29

      @10:59 I don't think you've been to Trieste very recently... If something student city it is not, most of young students choose to study somewhere else, even in Ljubljana... and Koper is and has been the most important port for Austria for decades now.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    8. Anonymous11:35

      Okay i was wrong for the import of Austria but there are many students in Trieste from all over the world and people from Asia who come to live there.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    9. Anonymous12:22

      To anonymous 11.29 Trieste university is way more multicultural and attracting more foreign students and people working in research institutions than Ljubljana. The trend that you are talking about was valid shortly before COVID time not now. Ljubljana is attracting exyugo students and bilateral collaborations that are very unsure (possible lack of funds). Trieste with all it's problems, it's still researchers city world known in certain fields. Many specialist for all around the world are arriving. Trieste is considered "secondary" in Italy it's not the capital. So It's doing well considered the geographical position.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    10. Anonymous13:33

      @12:22
      What??? Chill down.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    11. Anonymous13:50

      Love Trieste, I think is amazing and I cannot wait to go back. But like the rest of Italy, got devastated economically by the euro and the outflow of manifacturers to cheaper places in EU and China. So I am not necessarily sure the average person in the capital of Slovenia doesn't have more money than the average guy in Trieste. Even if you make more the taxes in Italy are absurdly high and so is the cost of live

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    12. Anonymous14:56

      @13.50 You are right. Electricity in Slovenia is way cheaper than in Italy, most taxes are lower. In Italy there is an expensive property tax to be paid every year. Nothing of this in Slovenia. If you have many properties the amount is huge. In Italy even if you have just one big house (as first home), is counted in m2, with a nice garden the amount to be paid yearly is big. Without a reasonable income put apart for it you can't keep properties. Many Sloveniansare living in big houses with small income.
      In Italy tax for luxury cars is huge: buying and yearly. Nothing similar in Slovenia. Companies are paying bigger tax to operate in Italy.
      Yes, currently life in Slovenia is way cheaper.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    13. Anonymous14:59

      To be fair pensions for regular jobs in Italy are still higher and safer, on a long time scale, than in Slovenia...

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    14. Anonymous15:15

      Love Trieste, the city of my youth! Still, it is worth noting the fact that it's population is among the eldest in Italy. As if the rest of Italy can't still absorb Trieste's Austro-Hungarian heritage.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    15. Anonymous20:02

      TRS had 700.000 passengers in 2022....

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    16. Anonymous20:53

      TRS had 930.000 passengers in 2023 ...

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    17. Anonymous04:07

      Wow 930.000 pax that is huuuge for very developed city

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    18. Reply
  3. Anonymous09:02

    Well isn't the Slovenian government covering 50% of Fraport's fees with their subsidy program? (which is crazy within itself since the private owner looses absolutely nothing and gets the added bonus of a new carrier).

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous09:03

      Makes you wonder what was the point of giving the airport to private operator?

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Anonymous09:05

      Well they built a brand new terminal

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    3. Anonymous09:09

      Again, typical Balkan negativity. Just one thing as the guy above me said: they built a new terminal, an example of a clean and tidy airport. I don't think there is an airport with a more orderly building than LJU in the region, BEG is big but still too slow to be as ordered as LJU.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    4. Anonymous10:24

      0903, and Tesla is operated by whom exactly??

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    5. Anonymous10:37

      ^ I don't understand your comment. There is a difference between giving the airport for concession and outright selling the airport operator. If you read the article, you would understand what sort of arrangement they have in LJU and it is very rare in Europe.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    6. Anonymous13:42

      Calling BS here. But it's Ryanair, hard to expect something else. I think they are flying to Burgas and Varna, both managed by Fraport. So where is the difference? Another good reason to never fly with this karikatura of an airline

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    7. Reply
  4. Anonymous09:02

    They just cover Slovenia via Trieste. Goodbye if it's dear to you.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous09:18

      +1 most of peoples in South Slovenia uses TRS, i also i am from Koper.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Anonymous12:26

      It's used as first choice by over 30% of the Slovenian market. Considered mobility of Slovenians, car driving is not a problem, with new flightsthe interest can be higher.
      Trieste can be a secondary hub for travellers to Venice in case long distance tourism will boom again.
      Trieste airport is so underrated.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    3. Anonymous22:38

      Anon 09.18, Do you also use Pula and Rijeka?

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    4. Reply
  5. Anonymous09:02

    Berlin good for slovenian passengers also spanish destinations.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous09:07

      Berlin is useless.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Anonymous09:09

      Why?

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    3. Anonymous09:13

      2 times per week only. Sunday and Tuesday

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    4. Anonymous09:18

      Berlin should be brought back urgently from LJU.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    5. Anonymous09:43

      Berlin is one of the top unserved destinations lol

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    6. Reply
  6. Anonymous09:03

    Why are they lying all the time? Ljubljana's taxes are a bit lower than Zagreb's. We can all check ourselves online, all prices are published. So I don't know why they keep promoting that point.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous09:04

      Zagreb organized a special incentive program just for Ryanair so the actual fees in Zagreb are not applicable to them.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Anonymous09:05

      It's just that TRS gives more incentives, it's cheaper.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    3. Anonymous09:08

      And Fraport offers 50% discoint on all new routes as well. And these fees can be again halfed by applying for the government's subsidies.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    4. Anonymous09:38

      Ljubljana's airport service charges are not published online (except for business and private flights).

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    5. Anonymous09:39

      Anonymous 9:05, no. The italian region abolished the tourist tax.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    6. Reply
  7. Anonymous09:05

    My guess is Ryanair acts like a bully with LJU since they know that traffic is below average they ask to pay absolutely nothing, expecting the airport will cave in.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous09:41

      It will happen eventually, and Ryanair knows it. It is waiting to be paid to fly there.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Anonymous09:51

      Yeah seems normal Ryanair negotiating tactic. They do it with Germany as well on a bigger scale and I am sure many other airports.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    3. frishki12:25

      How are they acting like a bully? They are just saying they aren't planning to open a base in Ljubljana for the reasons mentioned. Did they come to LJU and throw stones at them because of their high fees?

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    4. Anonymous15:31

      Ryanair is not bullying, they are outright lying. Saying that one of the cheapest countries in the EU is too expensive is just pure ignorance.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    5. frishki16:31

      There is a difference between being a cheaper country and an airport, because these two things don't have to be in coralation. That should be a common sense.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    6. Anonymous16:47

      And in this case they are in correlation. LJU has the cheapest taxes in the region. What they should have said is "We will only fly to LJU if someone pays us to fly to LJU".

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    7. frishki16:49

      Can you post the link to those taxes and fees?

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    8. Anonymous22:55

      In that case I hope Fraport caves in. I really want to have more options to fly from Ljubljana other than freaking Skopje and Belgrade.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    9. Anonymous14:00

      Kdo pa te sili, da letiš v SKP ali BG. Muči te le tvoja nacionalistična žilica.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    10. Reply
  8. Anonymous09:05

    So much bs from Ryanair again. Eddie and his boss are like small children when they don´t get what they want (= getting paid to fly somewhere). They can always use Maribor if LJU is too expensive :D

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous09:07

      +1

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Anonymous09:07

      I can only imagine what kind of terms they got in Zagreb.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    3. notLufthansa09:18

      Ryanair is like an ugly sexist bully who says girl is ugly when she refuses to copulate wit him. There is a very good docu on Arte channel explaining the mechanics of their operations in particular how they got arround explicitely forbiden state aid for airliners (they have separate company for promoting tourism, to which local communities pay for “marketing services”).And it is hillarious to hear from Locus Ryanair pointing fingers to profit makers….

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    4. Anonymous10:01

      That's not state aid.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    5. Reply
  9. Anonymous09:09

    How come FR has no problem flying out of dozens other airports operated by Fraport in Europe?
    For example from 14 Fraport operated airports in Greece and without receiving any subsidies or preferential treatment.
    Despite moaning about it but still choosing to fly there.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous09:25

      +100

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Anonymous09:43

      Because Greek destinations have a brand value and demand, which can be converted into profit despite the (relatively) high airport fees. Slovenia does not have that.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    3. Anonymous10:07

      No way.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    4. Anonymous16:46

      Big doubt that any individual Greek island other than the big ones like Rhodes, Crete, Corfu get more tourists than Ljubljana in the summer

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    5. Reply
  10. Anonymous09:09

    "Since foreign investors are not interested in the development of the region, they are only interested in profit." OMG, what a cynical statment !!!! And Ryanair is the most charitable organisation, protecting local airports against aviation predators."

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous09:46

      They absolutely are. We can see how well they did with airports like Reus (which they abandoned practically overnight) and Hahn (which hasn't seen profit since Ryanair came)

      They always bitch about this and that when in reality they're simply not a healthy long term prospect for most airports

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Anonymous10:03

      Hahn wouldn't exist with Ryanair. Reus shot themselves in the foot. Hundreds of other European airports love Ryanair.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    3. Anonymous10:30

      Of course they love FR as they do not make any profits at all.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    4. Anonymous11:27

      Really? HUNDREDS of European airports make no profit at all?

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    5. Anonymous12:07

      If an airport is run by the smart people, they know how to live from extras and not just the pure tax. It's easy to run the building if you have thousands people visiting daily. You charge.them parking, fast check in, fast security lane, lounge, food, drinks, duty free. Once you change the model to being thankful to Ryanair traffic and making food strategy on how to make money.

      I believe that era when airports lived from airport tax is over.

      You can be Bergamo or Ljubljana... Now the smart ppl whose job is only commenting here will say thanks god Ljubljana is not Bergamo, but those who really travel wish it to become one. Doesn't matter how and in what price.

      Young people in Slovenia have opportunities to travel abroad by plane equal to those around Mostar airport. And this is shameful.

      Giving them some benefits, brings benefits to local population. Maybe not in the bubble where you live, but compare travel tradings o youth from Slovenia and from other EU states.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    6. Anonymous12:08

      Good strategy* (not food)

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    7. Anonymous13:44

      Anon 12:07 You’re joking about Mostar right? For people in Slovenia it’s Ljubljana, Zagreb, Triest, Venice, Graz, Rijeka, Pula, Klagenfurt. These are just in a 2h radius. Many more a bit further.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    8. Anonymous16:48

      Anon 10:03

      Oh please, the only thing FR did for Hahn was deceive travellers into flying at an airport more than 100km away from its advertised city

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    9. Reply
  11. Anonymous09:12

    I don't agree with most of what Wilson said but I completely agree with him that selling your airport operator is a very short sighted move. There is a reason countries give airports up for concession and do not outright sell their operators.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
      Reply
  12. Anonymous09:13

    Fraport's taxes are not a problem. They fly to far more expensive airports. They just think they can bully LJU into paying them for flights because they think they are desperate. But Fraport isn't budging.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous09:14

      True

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Anonymous09:15

      That's why he says that Fraport only thinks about profits. I mean hello, what else are they supposed to think about.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    3. Anonymous11:24

      Bravo + 1

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    4. Anonymous16:50

      Also Fraport is entirely happy with keeping LJU a feeder port for Munich and Frankfurt while they wait

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    5. Reply
  13. Anonymous09:16

    How much are the fees at LJU? Wizz and easyjet don't seem to have a problem with it.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous09:17

      Keep in mind that Wizz and easyjet have significantly reduced ops from LJU. Even the subsidized SKP-LJU route does not make up for all the other suspended and downgraded routes.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Anonymous09:48

      Yep, easyjet used to fly to Milan, Berlin and STN as well, while Wizz used to fly to Charleroi.

      Most LCCs need some sort of incentitive to fly to capital cities

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    3. Reply
  14. Anonymous09:18

    Ljubljana is right not to accept Ryanair's ridiculous business terms.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous09:37

      While all the other states where they fly are stupid.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Reply
  15. Anonymous09:19

    "Since foreign investors are not interested in the development of the region, they are only interested in profit"
    And Ryanair is doing its business out of the goodness of their heart

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
      Reply
  16. Anonymous09:23

    "We welcome all airlines that fit into our business model."

    What is their business model?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous09:24

      High fees :D

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Anonymous16:50

      Fly to Lufthansa hubs and make profit off transfers

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    3. Reply
  17. Anonymous09:24

    Fraport management does not want to convert LJU into a LCC. I respect that.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous11:26

      +1

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Reply
  18. Anonymous09:24

    Well TRS is used exclusively by Slovenians so why not count that FR flies to Slovenia although via Italy and the airport that are used by both countries, there are also passengers from Austria (I have noticed the registration of the cars, those from Slovenia are the most )

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
      Reply
  19. Anonymous09:30

    FR would destroy lju. They would demand a lot of money and if they wouldn't give it to them they would pack up and leave. Well known scenario.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous09:31

      Like in Klagenfurt

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Anonymous09:49

      Reus, Weeze, Hahn, etc.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    3. Anonymous11:26

      These airports would not exist without Ryanair.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    4. Reply
  20. Anonymous09:55

    The sooner corrupt bullying Ryanair go bankrupt, the better for European Aviation.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous10:52

      Not happening anytime soon, as they're probably one of the financially healthiest airline in Europe, if not the world.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Anonymous11:26

      Not probably. Their profitability is off the scale in Europe and outdone only by the US airlines.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    3. Reply
  21. Anonymous09:59

    What airport did Greece sell? ATH?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous11:41

      14 airports (but not ATH), you can find the list on Fraport's Wikipedia article.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Anonymous13:50

      The new ATH airport which opened in 2001 was private from the beginning.
      Also the new airport that will replace HER in central Crete and is currently under construction is private too.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    3. Anonymous11:12

      Those 14 airports were not sold - they are under concession. LJU was sold.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    4. Reply
  22. Anonymous10:19

    For Ryaanair to launch flights from Ljubljana they would have to get support not just from the airport but also from city authorities (tourism board) and even government.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous11:25

      No they would not. Why are you spreading this nonsense.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Anonymous16:56

      Because it already happend years ago when they flew to Maribor and is still happening now in over 25% of their destinations. They feel that when the market is small they are doing it a favour and they should be paid for it.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    3. Reply
  23. Anonymous10:27

    That’s because LJU is a boutique airport. Legacy carriers only

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous10:38

      It also has boutique passenger numbers too.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Anonymous12:28

      Interest to fly to Ljubljana is over estimated. Nearby airports are providing the needed destinations.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    3. Reply
  24. Anonymous10:52

    Ljubljana should have reacted immediately after Adria went bust. Instead of focusing so much on Lufthansa and its satellites it should have focused on getting an LCC. Ryanair could have opened a base in Ljubljana rather than Zagreb.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous10:56

      You would think that when Adria went bankrupt, the airport would try anything and everything to get an airline to base planes. Instead, I think Ljubljana Airport was one of the few every to actively discourage anyone from opening a base.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Anonymous11:22

      Who did they discourage?

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    3. Anonymous11:24

      Do you not remember a small thing called COVID?

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    4. Anonymous11:42

      COVID happened about 6 months after Adria went bankrupt, and if Fraport had serious plans, Ryanair would have announced a schedule for SUTT 2020.

      You snooze, you loose.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    5. Reply
  25. Anonymous11:06

    Ryanair would be an absolute hit and give a lot of airlines in LJU a run for their money. Unfortunately just a dream.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous11:22

      +1

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Reply
  26. Anonymous11:15

    Ryanair is present at so many Fraport airports. Why should LJU be any different?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous11:21

      Well they say why

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Anonymous11:23

      I'm not buying that argument, precisely because they fly to so many Fraport airports.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    3. Reply
  27. Anonymous11:32

    Years go by and always the same news about Ljubljana, it's annoying.

    They first dismantle Adria, then decide not to set up a new one. Now they refuse to subsidize LCC like others, yet wonder why LJU isnt treated equally as some tourist hotspot island.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous11:44

      Despite Slovenia having the worst numbers in aviation from the ex-yu republics, it is still 2nd most visited country by foreigners just behind the Croatia and far ahead of any others... I don't think they need to worry about hotspot for turists

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Anonymous11:47

      Might be wrong but i think Ljubljana is yearly-vise most visited capital city in the EXYU region

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    3. Anonymous15:16

      Ljubljana 2023
      1.1 million tourist visitors
      2.3 million overnight stays

      Zagreb 2023
      1.3 million tourist visitors
      2.5 million overnight stays

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    4. Anonymous16:26

      to have 1.1 MIO visitors and population of only 270.000 is amazing.

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    5. Anonymous16:53

      Numbers are very close for the two cities, considering LJU has like 3 times less traffic than ZAG

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    6. Anonymous22:04

      Belgrade 2022 (can't find final data for 2023)

      1.18 million tourist visitors
      3.18 million overnight stays

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    7. Anonymous01:25

      Just behind Croatia? Croatia has 18 million foreign tourists a year, Slovenia 5 million, Serbia 4 million. How is Slovenia just behind Croatia and far ahead other republics?

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    8. Anonymous07:39

      2023 foreign turist
      Serbia: 2.134.305 (SeeNews, Jan 31 2024)
      Slovenia: 4.456.800 (STA, Jan 2024)

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    9. Anonymous07:50

      Croatia 18 million. So how is Slovenia just behind Croatia and way ahead other ex-yu republics?

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    10. Reply
  28. Anonymous12:14

    Friuli Venezia Giulia FVG (Trieste airport) is a region with a special statute. So they can and made a rule to cancel the 6.5 euro airport tax. They additionally cancelled the 2.5 euro tax..
    The rules how the FVG can manage taxes is different, in same aspects, then regions without a special statute (others with such statute are Sicilia, Sardegna, Trentino Alto Adige and Valle d'Aosta). So each departure pax cost from Trieste is 9.0 euro lower. Region Veneto (Treviso, Venezia), not a region with a special statute, can only cancel the 2.5 euro tax. Local politicians are asking for it. Treviso LC base sees a competition from Trieste. There is enough space for both of them.
    Regions with special statute can make school vacations dates more freely than others etc.
    By the way friday and sunday flights with Ryanair will start in June on the Trieste - Budapest route.
    Trieste airport is telling Ryanair and another airlines arrivals will bring locally additional 600 jobs.
    We will see. The airport has the potential(around, railroad connections etc ), location ..

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
      Reply
  29. Anonymous12:42

    During low season and not peak time, LCA at Trieste airport can count on Slovenians to fill seats on otherwise quite empty flights. A huge amount of Slovenians can take, at least short, vacations whenever they want. The only issue is money: if air tickets are cheap they will go, destination is not that fundamental.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
      Reply
  30. Anonymous13:48

    They are toying with Lju. They know the situation in Lju and that the people are desperate to fly with them for lower prices across Europe. They are just waiting that Slo gov gives them their millions and they will start flying.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
      Reply
  31. Anonymous13:48

    Maribor?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anonymous16:56

      They don't care about flying to Slovenia in general, they just wanna see big subsidies thrown in their face by the government

      Delete
      Replies
        Reply
    2. Reply
  32. Anonymous18:37

    It’s depressing here in Lju and even if some will still defend that, I must say that 2x weekly Cph and 12 summer Crj rotations to Madrid are not exciting. No airline has a plane based here, we don’t have a national airline and the Lcc’s keep cutting rotations ( we have lost Charleroi, Berlin, Stansted and Luton is being stopped for a month or two). Even the subsidies don’t attract anything serious and we keep on getting some news about a new airline who plans to fly Maribor- Hong Kong route and have an A330 base in MBX. Even those rumours about Cyprus airways and AirBaltic stationing a plane or two in Lju apparently vanished. It’s pretty sad

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
      Reply
  33. notLufthansa12:20

    Counter popular belief, that Ryanair gets direct money from the region - they are too clever to do that. Ryanair has a separate business which is dealing only with marketing, but not directly Ryanair, but the region or the airport with which they have a "contract" or better said - which sells their asses to Ryanair. Because for the benefit of bringing loads of passengers, they give Ryanair everything - they give them much lower fees (or don't charge at all), they pay hundreds of thousands for marketing of their airport/region, they give them all they ask for. Then Ryanair floods the airport and makes them totaly or in large part dependent of them. Plus, they force their staff to concentrate mostly on selling items on board and much less on providing safety. See ARTE documentary if you have the stomach.... https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/114522-004-A/ryanair-pirate-of-the-skies/

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
      Reply
  34. Anonymous15:42

    More happy news! Wizz removed LTN-LJU for this summer. Bravo Fraport!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
      Reply
Add comment
Load more...

Post a Comment

EX-YU Aviation News does not tolerate insults, excessive swearing, racist, homophobic or any other chauvinist remarks or provocative posts with the intention of creating further arguments. A full list of comment guidelines can be found here. Thank you for your cooperation.

VINTAGE EX-YU


Dubrovnik Airport, 1974

POPULAR THIS WEEK

Image

Air Serbia outlines Europe, Middle East and long-haul plans

Image

Emirates: No plans for Zagreb or Belgrade service

Image

PHOTOS: Belgrade Airport construction update

Image

Ljubljana Airport gains momentum as more new routes expected

Image

Two North African carriers considering scheduled Belgrade flights

Powered by Blogger
© EX-YU Aviation News 2008 - 2025