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Slovenia in talks with Austrian Airlines over Ljubljana flights

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The Slovenian government has said it is in talks with Austrian Airlines over the introduction of flights between Vienna and Ljubljana. The service was last operated by the now defunct Slovenian flag carrier Adria Airways in 2019. “We are in constant contact with Austrian Airlines. We are working hard and hope that these flights return to our network as soon as possible. At the moment, the carrier's fleet is still an obstacle, as it does not have a suitable smaller aircraft available that would make it profitable to fly to Ljubljana. Furthermore, there is an additional financial burden due to environmental taxes on the Austrian market for all flights operating on routes shorter than 350 kilometres", the Slovenian Ministry for Infrastructure said. The two capitals have an air distance of 264 kilometres.

Austrian Airlines has deemed that the smallest aircraft type in its fleet, the 120-seat Embraer E195 jet, is too large for the route. This summer, the carrier is wet-leasing 72-seat ATR72-600 turboprops from Braathens, which it is deploying on several regional routes, including Belgrade and Zagreb. The wet-lease contract is set to last until the end of the summer season, in late October, but may be extended into the winter, in which case services to Ljubljana could become viable.

The Lufthansa Group was quick to respond to the collapse of Adria Airways in 2019 by covering key routes served by the former Slovenian flag carrier and ensuring the continued flow of transfer passengers through its hubs. Lufthansa commenced operations from Munich and Frankfurt, Brussels Airlines from the Belgian capital, and Swiss from Zurich. However, Austrian Airlines has notably skipped the opportunity to introduce services between Vienna and Ljubljana, despite passenger figures indicating there is solid demand. Services to the Austrian capital were one of Adria’s better performing routes, with double daily flights maintained over the summer months and an average of around 60.000 passengers per year.

Ljubljana - Vienna route passenger performance


Adria Airways relied on transfer passengers between the two, both those headed or originating from regional markets such as Kosovo, Albania, Montenegro and Bosnia and Herzegovina, as well as those originating or heading to Ljubljana from other destinations in Europe and North America. However, a sizable number of travellers were still point-to-point. Notably an additional 10.925 people flew indirectly between the two capital cities in 2019, although this was mostly generated in the third and fourth quarters when Adria was cancelling a number of flights before ultimately declaring bankruptcy. Austrian Airlines had previously operated its own flights to Ljubljana, discontinuing its daily service at the end of the 2005 summer season. Adria Airways then increased its operations to the Austrian capital, maintaining four daily rotations until the 2009 global financial crisis. In its final summer season of 2019, Adria Airways served Vienna twice a day.



April 27, 2024
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  1. Anonymous09:04

    Indeed, Vienna remained the only JP destination not to be resumed. I mean a strong destination, not like ARN. Or SJJ, TIA (which operated only for transfers).

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    1. Anonymous17:38

      SJJ was massive with super high yields in times when Bosnia was poorer, 10% of Slovenia are Bosnians so most of them use ZAG to come home

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    2. Anonymous10:58

      @anon 9:04, what do you mean by strong destination? If you're discounting TIA and SJJ as for transfers only, then VIE is certainly the same especially as the article specifically says that the route benefited from regional connections.

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  2. Anonymous09:04

    It's a bad idea, speeding up the railway reconstruction would be better

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    1. Anonymous09:12

      LOL, no!

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    2. Anonymous09:18

      09:04 - agreed!

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    3. Anonymous00:06

      Well, railway money is being spent on train stations, not railway networks, so we can agree that connectivity via air is still better than waiting for the railway networks to get reconstructed finally. Patience.

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  3. Anonymous09:06

    I wonder what was Adria's share of transfers on this route

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    1. Anonymous09:10

      +100000
      Also does anyone know what the total number of transfer passengers was at LJU in 2018 or 2019?

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    2. Anonymous11:08

      Total cca 200k

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    3. Anonymous12:29

      Thanks

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  4. Anonymous09:07

    It can work with ATR

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  5. Anonymous09:07

    Interesting that it always says "Slovenia in talks..." instead of "Fraport in talks..." So what is Fraport or CEO doing? Taking pictures when new airline comes? Question for all fanboys and cheerleaders.

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    1. notLufthansa09:13

      Let's understand your question as being sarcastic and for that you get a big thumb up :)

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    2. Anonymous09:13

      For example the airport terminal is probably the best and cleanest in ex-yu, maybe not as IST but certainly cleaner than IST or ATH or OTP....

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    3. Anonymous09:49

      It’s easy to keep it clean with so few passengers

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    4. Anonymous11:10

      Fraport doesnt care about new routes/carriers as long as LH doesnt tell otherwise

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    5. Anonymous11:29

      @09:13 Are you for real or you were joking?

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    6. Anonymous00:08

      Fraport is busy having pizza parties where employees are underpaid and overworked.

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    7. Anonymous14:00

      Slovenia is very clean and organized country in general. Ljubljana is one of the cleanest cities I have ever seen. Garbage disposal and recycling bins are on every corner and people really care about nature.

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  6. Anonymous09:12

    Bravo Fraport!

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    1. Anonymous09:25

      Meh

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  7. Anonymous09:17

    I saw that White is already flying from LJU. Let's wait for the OS.

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    1. Anonymous09:31

      With livery of the slovenian tour operator?

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    2. Anonymous09:31

      In fr24 no livery

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    3. Anonymous09:46

      White and Kompas had a huge mess at the first flights.

      White didn't even know they'll operate the flights, and the plane never came to Ljubljana to operate the first rotation in the morning.

      Then White came to Ljubljana but seemingly tried to get more money of Kompas as they scheduled 2 departures - one to Kompas destination and one back to home base.


      People were waiting for 20h for their flights etc

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    4. Anonymous09:47

      Now the plane is in Belgrade.... Maybe for livery?

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    5. Anonymous09:55

      I remember seeing CH Aviation article and White denied any connection to Kompas. Seems like a mess

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  8. Anonymous10:02

    If austrian regrets getting rid of turboprops, with the level of connecting pax they have... Imagine Croatia without ANY lh flights

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  9. Anonymous10:12

    This would be great!

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  10. Anonymous11:00

    Slovenian government is actually getting bussy in recent times with those talks. Mindblowing that they actually have some interest

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    1. Anonymous11:13

      Unfortunately only the ministry of infrastructure cares about the air-connectivity. Fraport and its CEO are too busy with spreading misleading and fake figures.

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  11. Anonymous11:16

    Still one of the better Lufthansa group airlines. Certainly better than mutti.

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  12. Anonymous12:15

    Imagine 2025:
    - austrian to vienna
    - wizz returning London and Brussels
    - cyprus opening a base with 5 destinations

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    1. Anonymous12:29

      Maybe prior 2025😁

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    2. Anonymous12:30

      I don’t think Charleroi will return but Luton is quite possible when they sort an issue with the engines. Also I really hope that the government gives the subsidies to Cyprus airways and they operate a few destinations

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    3. Anonymous13:36

      + qatar starting doha 3pw :)

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    4. Anonymous23:41

      Why would CRL not return?

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  13. Anonymous15:29

    Can't they just use the Embraer 3x per week? I'm sure they could fill it up.

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  14. Anonymous15:29

    Crazy there are STILL no flights between Ljubljana and Vienna.

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    1. Anonymous15:38

      At least they are working on it and it looks like there might be some results from it sooner or later.

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    2. Anonymous17:32

      Transfer passengers are rerouted to other SA hubs, P2P is not important because Vienna is close to Ljubljana by car. Nothing dramatic about this flights.

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  15. Anonymous16:21

    From 60,000+ passengers per year to 0

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  16. Anonymous17:31

    As OS has a flight between GRZ and VIE, they can easily use E195 and fly the route LJU-GRZ-VIE. There is no doubt that all flights will have perfect pax load.

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    1. Anonymous17:53

      True. If they can fly E195 double daily from Vienna to Graz, Klagenfurt and Zagreb they should be able to fly once per day to Ljubljana.

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    2. Anonymous17:59

      there were 84.840 pax flying between vienna and graz in 2023

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    3. Anonymous01:16

      If Adria flew twice a day with CRJs then there should be at least several weekly flights between LJU and VIE.

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  17. Anonymous20:39

    I know armchair CEOs take up residence here, but how on earth would a LJU-GRZ-VIE make money?

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    1. Anonymous10:21

      Not a single person suggested that

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  18. Anonymous01:16

    Their Dash 8s would have been perfect for this route.

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  19. Anonymous01:17

    Austrian has a good Eastern European network and could bring benefits for LJU passengers in comparison to other Lufthansa group airlines.

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    1. Anonymous01:51

      And just 30 minute minimum connecting time in Vienna

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    2. Anonymous01:52

      * 25 minute minimum connecting time.

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  20. Anonymous01:52

    The environmental tax is more of an issue than the aircraft.

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  21. Anonymous08:56

    The BRA wetlease lasts until the end of March 2025, not late October 2024. In general this article is a mess, as OS has no plans at all returning to LJU.

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    1. Anonymous09:17

      Sure you know lol.

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    2. Anonymous22:58

      The ATR are a bit under-used in the current schedule, very often parking in VIE for 2 hours between the flights. With a better scheduling OS could easily free them up for at least one more flight per day.

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