Brazilian aircraft manufacturer Embraer has pitched its Embraer E195-E2 aircraft to Air Serbia in Belgrade yesterday, operating a demonstration flight in the presence of the carrier’s management, representatives of the Serbian government, aviation stakeholders and the media. Officials from Embraer have expressed hope the Serbian airline would opt for new-generation jet as it prepares to add the first two E195-E1 aircraft into its fleet. “A demonstration flight is an excellent opportunity to showcase the operational efficiency, low maintenance costs, and adaptability of our E2 aircraft family, making it perfect for Serbia. Our aircraft is 10% lighter and consumes 12.5% less fuel than the competition. Passengers will also enjoy Embraer’s two-plus-two seating configuration, meaning no middle seats, larger overhead stowage bins, ambient lighting, and a quieter cabin. We are excited about the opportunities the E2 offers Air Serbia as it continues to grow and strengthen its position in the region”, Fernando Mainardi, Vice President of Sales for Europe at Embraer Commercial Aviation, said.
Embraer emphasised the range of E2 aircraft, noting it would be able to cover all of Europe, the entire Middle East and a large part of Africa from Belgrade. The aircraft manufacturer also noted the large volume of traffic operated by Embraer jets in the region, encompassing some 140 routes by twenty carriers. Furthermore, pilots currently flying the E195-E1 will not face significant challenges transitioning to the E195-E2. Despite the two being two different generations of aircraft, only about two additional days of training are necessary for the crew to switch to the newer aircraft type. As a result, airlines will not incur high costs, and the introduction of the new aircraft type will not have a significant impact on operations.
Air Serbia noted it is “continuously exploring the possibility of further developing its fleet and introducing additional aircraft into service”. The carrier’s General Manager for Commercial and Strategy, Boško Rupić, said, “Air Serbia’s network is constantly growing, and with it, our fleet. In the coming period, we will introduce two Embraer E195 aircraft into service. These aircraft, with 118 seats, are perfectly suited to our plans for further network expansion. We plan to gradually expand our Embraer fleet by adding a number of these aircraft. Before deciding on the E195, we closely collaborated with the Embraer team to find the aircraft type that best suits our needs. Today, in Belgrade, we had the chance to get acquainted with the latest E195-E2 and received comprehensive information about this aircraft from the company's representatives. We are honoured that Embraer gave us this opportunity, especially at our home airport”.
In a recent interview with EX-YU Aviation News, Air Serbia’s CEO, Jiri Marek, said the airline could potentially operate up to fifteen E195s. “Our market study shows that we can accommodate around fifteen of them, however, it will be a gradual introduction. This is an aircraft type which will now be targeted to grow the fleet. The Airbus A320 and the Embraer will now be the aircraft that will be in focus for us”, Mr Marek noted.
Air Serbia already made it clear many times that it isn't interested in brand new Aircraft. It prefers older Aircraft that has been proven not to have new design faults.
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DeleteNot just that but they are also cheaper to lease and operate. Unfortunately a lot of newly designed aircraft had serious flaws which impacted their reliablity.
DeleteAnyway, JU has more pressing issues to deal with rather than the introduction of brand new aircraft into their fleet. A330 cabin refurbishment, loyalty program, corporate program, reduced seasonality, employee morale and satisfaction, talent retention ... are all things they should be rather focusing on.
Not all brand new airplanes have some faults, you do realize that?
DeleteWho knows. Do you remember how Embraer sad they offered OU a deal that was too good to refuse? I think they really want a new European customer and are prepared to offer a lot. So maybe they just change Air Serbia's mind.
DeleteThe encouraging thing is that there was someone from the government there :D
DeleteAnon 09.23
DeleteMy thoughts exactly! :D
That could be one of the deciding factor. Though from what I heard the ministry of finances isn't too keen on spending on JU. They insist they pay their own bills which includes the lease of planes.
Kind of ironic that they willing to spend billions on military planes and various other dinasour companies but are not interested in helping JU.
DeleteTruth be told the government did help JU back in 2013 when they spent millions and millions of Euros. They saved Jat Airways from certain bankruptcy and then financed their rebranding. Now it's time for JU to repay this investment.
DeleteIssue here is what JU is doing and if they could have done a better job. This is what we should be discussing. Personally I understand why the government is adopting that stance. After all they already invested enough.
Beggars can't choosers.
DeleteHaven't seen that they have begged anyone for anything. Last year they repaid the government 22.4 million EUR.
DeleteThe actual English phrase is "beggars can't be choosers". If you can't string a simple phrase together, I doubt you have much competency to say who is a beggar and who is not, except for your own personal frustrations. And I think they will just get worse as JU continues to grow.
DeleteEmbraer e195e2 is perfect fit for JU but there is a lot of but... PW issue not Embraer fault, but in 5 to 10 years e2 is definitely going to be part of a JU fleet.
DeleteCan anyone explain where Serbia found and did it really need 3 billion Euros for Rafale (?!) aircraft but can't find any money to purchase A320/A321/A330 for JU?
DeleteAnd how do you think the EU would react if the government just decided to buy planes for Air Serbia? I'm sure many here would be screaming about state aid.
DeleteAnon 12:06
DeleteSerbia "found" money in its budget, where else? Debt is at 50% of GDP, so there`s plenty of money to spend.
So it's ok to spend them on unnecessary fighter jets that'll be sitting, instead of planes that will be making money...
DeleteYes, based on EU state aid laws.
DeleteWhat military jet Rafale has to do with Air Serbia. Air Serbia is profit making entity with goal of flying passengers from point A to B. There is no need for any government investment into Air Serbia since airline is a profitable entity.
DeleteBased on EU state aid laws... It's perfectly fine if billions go to their national or private company, but a problem if you invest even millions in your own.
DeleteLong story short.
True
DeleteWhatever the EU rules are, they do not apply on non-EU states.
DeleteThey most certainly do apply to candidate countries especially Serbia which gets millions of Euros in funding from EU each month as a result of being a candidate country and beneficiary of IPA funds.
DeleteIt would be great if it were to happen in the near future! 😀
ReplyDeleteAir Serbia will be leasing these planes so they are absolutely interested in Embraer. The leasing companies will be purchasing them new. And it is one of the most comfortable and cost effective planes flying.
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DeleteAn other PW aircraft which should be avoided at the moment
ReplyDeleteAre there any E2s grounded?
DeleteNone due to engine issues
Deletehttps://aviation.direct/en/embraer-e195-e2-engine-problems-plague-klm-cityhopper
DeleteIn Helvetic 5 out of 12 E2 are grounded
DeleteSo is this similar issue as with A220 and A320neos?
DeleteYes, on all 3 the same PW problems
DeleteCabins look great in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteThe business class concept is interesting.
DeleteThe positive thing about the E2 is that their delivery rate is high so you when you order it you don't have to wait years until you get it. I just saw that LOT took delivery of the E2.
ReplyDeleteFrom last month "Brazilian aircraft manufacturer Embraer is on track for a record summer. The planemaker has steadily increased its aircraft deliveries and secured a number of new orders in recent months. The number of E2 operators will have almost doubled over the past two years."
DeleteIn case they offer a very favourable leasing agreement I could see AirSerbia opt for some new planes here. Embraer is also way cheaper than the A220 but efficient.
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DeleteI assume in the next 10 years JU will start to switch to A320 neo and E2, most probably the A332 will get some new successor as well.
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DeleteLooking at that map, the range looks excellent. They would be able to easily deploy it on routes like Cairo and Tel Aviv and perhaps Beirut in the future and it could be more profitable then sending A319/A320s
ReplyDeleteKEF would be great!
DeleteWhat was the seat capacity/configuration of the presented aircraft?
ReplyDeleteI don't know the configuration but Embraer configured this demo aircraft with economy seats pitched at 35, 34, 33, 32, 31, 30, 29.5, and 29 inches in order to show customers the comfort levels they may offer.
DeleteThe E195 can carry up to 146 passengers, but I'd expect around 120-130 in a normal single-class configuration
DeleteThe demo plane has 138 seats I believe. The info anon at 9.40 posted explains the misaligned seats and windows as seen in the photo of the article.
DeleteUnrelated to the subject, but when flying on the current AirSerbia Embraer, it bothered me that the seats on that plane were missalligned with the windows, wondered why there are even passenger windows with setup like that. Appears the same on this plane in the pictures. Also bothered me that the plane had some seats in the middle of the plane that dont recline (are in front of the emergency exit), but when you are selecting seats of even paying extra to pick seats, nothing tells you which seats on the plane do not recline.
DeleteIt is a no brainer. The emergency exit rows must stay unobstructed of any fixed or movable items, and that means that seats located in front of emergency row all have reclining capability removed. Likewise, the table affixed to a seat in front of emergency raw has secure latch moving only half the range of those located in seats in other rows. In addition, all items such as clothes, bags or large electronic items must be stowed in the overhead bins and never under the seat in front.
DeleteWhat a livery!
ReplyDeleteBeautiful
DeleteEmbraers are great planes and it is a nice feeling flying on them. They are also very comfortable for passengers.
ReplyDeleteWould love to see it in Air Serbia's livery.
ReplyDeleteYou have the E1s in Air Serbia livery :)
DeleteAnd here is the E2 :D
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If you ask me, perfect aircraft for JU.
ReplyDeleteI just hope this effort won't be for nothing.
DeleteGreat news but I think Air Serbia will just keep leasing old generation planes.
ReplyDeleteMost likely scenario
DeleteIt really depends on business model, but they have shown this to be part of their strategy with some growing pains, but new planes have different pros/cons.
DeleteWhat is the list price for the E2s?
ReplyDeleteEmbraer E175-E2: US$56,4 million
DeleteEmbraer E190-E2: US$64,6 million
Embraer E195-E2: US$72,8 million
Source: https://www.aeroflap.com.br/en/find-out-how-much-an-embraer-plane-and-jet-costs/
The jungle jet
ReplyDeleteGood news for the Serbian aviation industry.
ReplyDeleteDon't get me wrong, it's nice that they came to do a demo flight but how does that change anything in the Serbian aviation industry?
Delete"Aviation industry" here including entire aviation sector.
DeleteMaybe because JU's growth has put Serbia on the aviation map?
DeleteWhat was the reason of showing directors of CAD and SMATSA on the presentation?
ReplyDeleteEspecially CAD which is failing to register the E95 and is causing all the delays.
DeleteDelay is related to European bureaucracy, not Serbian one.
DeleteNope it's because of our CAD
DeleteNope
DeleteI can't make up my mind who of you two provided more arguments...
Deletehahaha
DeleteAre they on European tour ?? I think before BEG they were in ATH and I don't understand why since either Aegean or Sky express have no interest ( until now ???) for this type of aircraft .
ReplyDeleteIt seems it just did a demo in Greece and then in Belgrade.
DeleteMaybe Aegean is considering them for Olympic Air?
DeleteMaybe Sky Express too.
DeleteMaybe for Marathon :D
DeleteThe E2 are state-of-art aircraft. It's unbeatable in comfort for passengers, quiet, relaxing. I hope to see them in Air Serbia very soon.
ReplyDeleteA220 might beg to differ.
DeleteA220 was not more comfortable than E95 IMO
DeleteNobody wants E2, everybody wants A220. Tell me why?
DeleteA220 (as C Series) was launched and had first order on 10 March 2009, 15 years ago. It has 912 orders.
DeleteE2 was launched 17 July 2013, 11 years ago. It has 354 orders. Since launch, A220 has on average, about double the orders per year E2 has.
Now you can say that twice as many want A220 over E2, but to say nobody wants E2 means you must get your medication doubled. Feeling better now?
Seems like ADD (Addis Ababa) is within range...and codeshare with Ethiopian Airlines and become TK's competitor. Boom. Never happens
ReplyDeleteI think we will see Ethiopian in Belgrade with their 737s sooner than Air Serbia with their E195s.
DeleteБe sick to see Ethiopian at BEG.
DeleteIt might happen
DeleteWhen?
Delete''Profit Hunter''
ReplyDeleteI have flown on the E2. It's a nice plane. I like the big windows. Storage to me seems standard even though they are saying how the bins are larger. The most noticeable feature is how quiet the plane is.
ReplyDeleteWhich airline did you fly with?
DeleteAir Serbia should most definitely order a few E2s, I think this is their chance to try out mee technology aircraft and sew how it fits their needs.
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't come cheap though.
DeleteDo you think it is possible for Air Serbia to order a large number of E195-E2 aircraft and replace the old A319s with them, and lease out the surplus aircraft like AirBaltic does? Of course, I believe that Air Serbia also needs smaller aircraft like the ATR 72-600, but also larger ones like the A320Neo, A321Neo, and A330-900Neo. Maybe Air Serbia could try to establish a regional airline in Ljubljana, Sarajevo, Banja Luka, and/or Skopje. We are facing an interesting period in which I expect regional growth and development of air traffic, but I am not sure if the region has the capacity to achieve this or if Western European LCCs will completely take over most of the business.
ReplyDeleteI don't think that is possible because Air Serbia does not have enough crew to suit its own needs, let alone wet lease aircraft to other airlines. This would especially be complicated with the Embraers since there are not too many pilots and first officers certified on Embraers in Serbia as it is not an aircraft that has ever been used in commercial operations in the country before. I do see Air Serbia gradually replacing its entire A319 fleet with Embraers, which is why they say they will have up to 15 of them.
DeleteI really root for them to close the deal with JU. While im not quite a fan of regional jets, its still way better than this strategy of basing the entire fleet on "young" aircraft which is euphemism for second hand metal. If everyone is buying new craft you cant be a smartass as the only lesee of 7+ years old stuff from the day one. If everyobne is profitable with new planes, you be the one.
ReplyDeleteHow can OU afford to 'buy' new aircraft but JU cannot?
DeleteIt is not about affording. It's about digging a grave for yourself.
DeleteYeah but OU will end up with brand new birds.
DeleteIt has them on lease for 10 years and it is questionable if they will be around in 10 years time considering they are a loss making airline with no plans to turn that around. In fact only after leasing the plane did they realise it is too big for many of their routes.
DeleteThey used some kind of buy back/lease back routine. Not sure how sound the financial structure is long term.
DeleteThey didn't do that either. They are just leasing the plane at huge rates (since it's new).
DeleteHow does EU regulations allow for direct government involvement in the lease arrangement of new airplanes?
DeleteOU be like ... I know a guy ... (In Bruxelles)
DeleteZna li neko koja je razlika u ceni zakupa novog E2 i E1 starog 15 godina?
ReplyDeleteKako nebi znao.
DeleteRazlika oko dva soma.
Još nešto?
Ha ha.
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