Speaking to Italy’s “Corriere della Sera” daily, Mr O’Leary noted, “They [Wizz Air] jeopardised their own future. During Covid they sold their aircraft and leased them back at high rates. In recent years, they expanded their fleet by buying jets from their main shareholder. Then they turned to a bank to refinance them with these costly sale-and-leaseback deals. Over the past five years, Wizz has booked profits from these transactions in their accounts, like some sort of Ponzi scheme. The more you grow, the more profit you make. But now growth has stopped, and they can’t do that anymore”. He added, “They’re all over the place. Five years ago, they wanted to expand in Italy, then Vienna. And they vanished. Then they were supposed to become the number one airline in the Middle East. And they shut down their Abu Dhabi base because… there’s sand in the bloody desert. Quite the surprise for everyone. Now they want to go to Kazakhstan, grow again in Poland. But it’s too late to grow in Poland, because we’re already investing there. Overall, it looks like they won’t even make a single euro of profit. While we’ve got European airports lining up asking us to grow with them. And you know why? Because they quietly tell us, yes, Wizz flies from here, but they fear they’ll be gone next year”.
Ryanair surpassed Wizz Air to become the largest carrier in the former Yugoslav region during the summer of 2024 and has maintained that position since. The airline holds a dominant presence in Croatia and overtook its low cost rival in Bosnia and Herzegovina the same year. Conversely, Wizz Air remains the leading budget airline in Macedonia, Montenegro and Serbia. Earlier this year, the Macedonian government ended months of negotiations with Ryanair, citing the carrier’s “impossible” demands. Meanwhile, Ryanair has ruled out launching services to Ljubljana and Belgrade, arguing that both airports are too costly to operate from.
That's nasty from O'Leary :D
ReplyDeleteHe's got his own shareholders to assure so take advantage of you competition struggling
DeleteBut at the end of the day Ryanair did not use the opportunity of Wizz Air struggling in ex-Yu at all. Maybe they used it elsewhere but here not really. So much so that Wizz will be the biggest again this winter.
DeleteThis region is tough for them because airports are not going to drop their fees for them.
DeleteBut it's obviously not a priority for them either.
DeleteNo, the region is tough for them because it's the poorest part of Europe. Macedonia, Kosovo, Bosnia eastern Croatia, all of Serbia except Belgrade, all of Montenegro outside Kotor, and much of rural Slovenia.
DeleteWhich means there is a LOT of gastarbeiter travelers. The bread and butter for LCCs.
DeleteThat's why they grew so massively in TIA.
No, TIA had massive gasto market even decades ago. Raise of living standard and tourism are the reasons for booming.
DeleteNorwegian needed years to fail, it all depends on cost structure of the airline. W6 has lower CASK then U2 so they will survive. What is opening right now is, potential EASY WIZZ consolidation. We will see what is going on, but WIZZ EASY and Norwegian would be interesting to see.
DeleteI wonder what those airports in ex-Yu depending on Wizz would do if hypothetically collapsed.
ReplyDeleteBEG would better make a deal with Ryanair now that is in a better negotiating position with W6 still around!
DeleteNothing, they will turn to FR. Anyway SKP had talks with them but at the end the minister lied about the immposible requests from the ceo of FR. If w6 is gone then SKP would do anything to attract FR, maybe it will be even better and bigger base and opportiunities for cabin crew.
DeleteThey will turn to FR and FR will ask for whatever it wants knowing SKP has absolutely no choice.
DeleteDon't worry, market finds it's way. Anything and anyone is replaceable. And just because one person who is known for his ridiculous statements said something, it doesn't mean it will actually happen...
DeleteIf and it's a big if, SKP is doomed if Wizz fall.
ReplyDeleteI agree. This year was an opportunity to diversify and bring FR.
DeleteSo true!
DeleteIf Wizz fall Ryanair will come even with their impossible request so nothing to worry about :D
DeleteI think Skopje will be seriously affected, with so many Wizz flights.
Delete"Then they were supposed to become the number one airline in the Middle East. And they shut down their Abu Dhabi base because… there’s sand in the bloody desert. Quite the surprise for everyone. "
ReplyDeleteGOLD hahaha
He is right though
DeleteClassic O’Leary. Brutal but entertaining.
Deletenot gonna happen
ReplyDeleteThe same guy has been predicting how Lufthansa, Brussels, and Norwegian were going to collapse any minute for the past 6 or 7 years
DeleteHe wasn't too far off with Norwegian. It barely survived.
DeleteAnd Lufthansa has big losses and minuses. So he was not far from the truth there as well
DeleteO’Leary doing what he does best. Stirring the pot. But he’s not entirely wrong.
ReplyDeleteReminds me of when O’Leary said Lufthansa would go bust.
DeleteMy favourite quote from him is that airline pilots are just fancy bus drivers
DeleteUsed to be fancy. Not even fancy any more. Sad but true
DeleteTypical O’Leary theatrics! He’s been predicting others’ bankruptcies for 20 years now. Meanwhile, Wizz keeps expanding and adding new bases.
ReplyDeleteIs this comment meant to be a joke?
DeleteIt is a joke but guy posting meant it for real
DeleteRegardless of what he says, competition between these two is great for passengers.
ReplyDeleteThey dropped the ball completely after covid. You can't just try everything everywhere and close it down if it's not working out. You can do it with routes (if you are clueless with route planning) but not with complete airlines and bases. There is no way they can put 500 aircraft anywhwre in Europe while not having the basic infrastructure for it (e.g. their maintenance which is still a haphazard bunch of companies competing with each other instead of serving Wizz wholeheartedly).
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DeleteDon’t really care what O’Leary thinks as long as flights stay cheap.
ReplyDeleteWell you should. If one goes bust the other can raise prices and help the poor return to buses for travel.
DeleteThey’re both expanding too fast. Once the next downturn hits, one of them will definitely scale back heavily.
ReplyDeleteRyanair does well in upturns and VERY well in downturns.
DeleteHe’s trolling as usual
ReplyDeleteExactly. Every time O’Leary talks headlines follow. He knows how to stay in the spotlight, especially when Wizz starts growing again.
DeleteO’Leary should worry about his own delays and poor service before criticising others.
ReplyDelete+ 1000
DeleteRyanair has better on time performance than Wizz and incomparably less cancelations. And their service is better than many other LCC including Wizz. So it's not + but - 1000
DeleteIt’s true Wizz has been all over the map lately. They need to focus.
ReplyDeleteSay what you want about Ryanair, but they’ve got discipline unlike Wizz.
ReplyDeleteI’d love to see Ryanair finally come to Belgrade. It would keep everyone on their toes... Air Serbia, Wizz, the airport.
ReplyDeleteYou have them in Nis
DeleteHow is that the same?
DeleteWhether Ryanair comes to BEG or not depends entirely on Ryanair.
DeleteIt's not. He just doesn't like affordable ticket prices. 🤷♂️
Delete@09:36
DeleteClearly it is not.
Oh, they will come to BEG and SKP surely, with their heads down. With closing so many bases and planes sitting on a tarmac, they will actually realise that this market is not bad at all, comparing with Germany, Austria, Italy, France tax prices
DeleteSure thing, let's clear the land lines and wait for O'Leary's desparate call
DeleteNot surprised by his comments. Every time Wizz expands somewhere Ryanair wanted, he suddenly “predicts” trouble. Pure PR tactics.
ReplyDeleteSale-and-leaseback profits are accounting magic. Just ask Croatia Airlines.
ReplyDeleteIt's not accounting magic, it's accounting.
DeleteRyanair already blackmails airports. Imagine what would happen if Wizz was not around.
ReplyDeleteIf ryanair continues this trend leaving major european hubs they will not have bright future ;) they are trolling now the world because Wizz wil dominate next year
DeleteIf ryanair continue this trend of leaveing airports across Europe they will bankrupt in future not Wizz air , yes Wizz left Abu dhabi but thats not even close to a sign that they will bankrupt , opposite they recieving brand new planes , reopening bases , increasing capacities... if PLAY bakrupted doesnt mean other airline will be the same, Wizz is way more succesfull then PLAY or ahy other low cost , so this means if my goat dies then my neighbour goat will die right ? :D
ReplyDeleteW6 will be in dominant position then ryanair and he knows this and this is just jelaous news , if some countries for talks like this you can go in jail , to clarify something like this you need to have evidence which we all know there is no any sign that W6 will bankrupt and also comparing it with PLAY situation , I never liked ryanair and will never just because of this bullshit news they are providing
ReplyDeleteNow ryanair will be named as Nostradamus airline predicting future
Ouch!
ReplyDeleteO’Leary is a clown. He’s looking in neighbors garden instead of worrying about closing own routes and bases in Austria, Danmark, Spain, France, Germany…
ReplyDeleteWhere will his planes fly after abandoning main markets?? To the moon?
After raising taxes and other expenses around Europe, It’s getting clearer and clearer that classic LCC have no future in this form. They will have to change, but all of them are already late. Instead of trying to adopt, they are abandoning airports. Also, passengers will also have to change their minds and habits. Cheap flying time is over
Agreed with everything (especially the part that he's a clown), but don't think cheap flying is over
DeleteBtw, he reminds me of Musk a bit, he really has nothing else to offer in terms of product, but wants to stay in the spotlight, in this case, by just talking BS
Guys, what are you talking about? Ryanair has a bigger scheduled capacity this winter than the last one. They didn't abandon the markets, they cut some % of flights here and there and added at other bases... I think this is the media effect where we are reading about Ryan's cuts due to taxes all while their overall capacity goes up year after year. Cmon...
DeleteNo, they are just panically adding frequencies and routes where they are still present, just to keep planes busy. But that can not replace missing bases. Actually contrary, that will bring more troubles
DeleteOK, we'll see soon, the winter is coming...
DeleteThey are not much more reliable than Wizz. They picked up and left from Tuzla within months.
ReplyDeleteThey have also abandoned Montenegro market. Just one route in winter.
DeleteWizz has nine lives. They’ve been “in trouble” since 2010 according to O’Leary, and yet here we are. Still flying pink planes.
ReplyDeleteFrom the financial perspective WizzAir is doing fine. Their revenue and profit increased in last few quarters while lowering debt and increasing load factor from 90 to 92%, fuel costs are going down and planes are very new. So I highly doubt Wizz will collapse just because of closing one or two bases.
ReplyDeleteCroatia Airlines also has new planes :P
DeleteBut croatia airlines ticket prices and wizz are not even close to compare :)) plus ryanair is leading croatian air travel
DeleteI hope EU orders airliners to pay tax for aviation fuel, this will bring down Ryanair.
ReplyDeleteIt would bring down all airlines.
DeleteThis statement reminds me of the type of comments you wpuld read here 😂
ReplyDeleteThen they were supposed to become the number one airline in the Middle East. And they shut down their Abu Dhabi base because… there’s sand in the bloody desert.
True :D
DeleteO'Leary is a nasty. The sooner FR goes bankrupt the better!
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DeleteO’Leary, ma pustite ga, nek prica gluposti.
ReplyDeleteHe speaks, he cut 1milliom seats in Spain, one of most desirable destinations in Europe and wizz starts to use this as opportunity to launch more flights to Spain market.
ReplyDeleteDo you realise that 1 million seats in Spain is almost nothing for Ryanair in Spain?
DeleteGood luck keeping your already ancient fleet updated O'Leary. How you going to do that with the number Boeing can produce?
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