Lufthansa has updated its operations for the remainder of the summer season after suspending flights from Munich to Ljubljana, Rijeka and Tivat until the end of May, and maintaining just nine flights to Belgrade throughout the month, following the sudden closure of its CityLine subsidiary. The airline will restore all four routes in June, although there will be some frequency and equipment changes.
Flights between Munich and Belgrade will resume on June 1, with the German carrier operating eighteen weekly rotations between the two cities, down from the twenty weekly services initially planned prior to the CityLine shutdown. There will be three daily flights on Mondays, Wednesdays, Thursdays and Sundays, and two daily flights on the remaining three days of the week. The carrier will utilise its Airbus A320-family fleet on the route, although the A319 will be predominantly used. Lufthansa will face competition from Air Serbia, which will operate daily flights between the two cities from May 22 with the 118-seat Embraer E195.
The airline will return Munich - Ljubljana on June 1 with eleven weekly flights, down from fourteen weekly. There will no longer be two daily flights on Mondays, Wednesdays and Saturdays. The carrier will also utilise wet-leased aircraft from Helvetic Airways. It will deploy the Swiss carrier’s 122-seat E195 jet on Mondays, Wednesdays, Thursdays (one of two flights), Saturdays and Sundays (one of two flights). The remaining operations will be maintained by Lufthansa’s A320-family fleet.
The carrier will also restore its seasonal operations to Tivat and Rijeka. Flights to the Montenegrin coast will resume on June 6, with six flights planned during June and July, increasing to nine in August before reducing to five in September, matching frequencies planned prior to the CityLine closure. All services will be operated by the A319. Similarly, flights to Rijeka will resume on June 7, with four to five flights per month throughout the summer, in line with frequencies planned under CityLine. The route will be operated by a mixture of A319s and Helvetic Airways E195s.
Not good for JU that is, hopefully they won't retreat from the route.
ReplyDeleteI am sure they will retreat as they did it in Frankfurt.
DeleteOh, wait...
JU should go double daily at least a few days of the week to MUC.
DeleteWhy exactly. To fly empty?
DeleteFRA is a much larger area. In addition to MUC, BEG has flights to NUE, FMM and SZG.
DeleteYou really think they didn't factor in that LH will resume fights? Some people here...
DeleteThey most likely did but maybe not so soon and definitely not with 18 weekly flights.
DeleteThis is Lufthansa fighting back.
The Munich region is home to 8 million people.
DeleteJU can definitely support higher capacity.
NUE is as far from MUC as it is from FRA.
DeleteYes but NUE covers northern Bavaria which also covers the region south of it towards MUC.
DeleteNorthern Bavaria is closer to FRA than to MUC.
DeleteSo you were screaming for years how JU should fly to MUC and now that Lufthansa will continue flying there you are saying how JU will fail. Some people here.
DeleteSorry but I wasn't the one screaming so I don't know what you are going on about.
DeleteNUE-MUC 157 km
NUE-FRA 230 km
So obviously that people who live in NUE will rather choose MUC over FRA.
Difference in driving time is only 30 min so it makes actually no difference at all, especially not in the decision which airport to choose.
DeleteWell there is no way to know that for sure especially since they will have to drive extra 73 km. With these petrol prices...
DeleteThere is surely a way to find it out.
DeleteGoogle is your friend.
You know, in Germany there is no speed limit on Autobahn. So it might be even less than 30 min...
Just do the math.
in many places there are speed limits mate
DeleteOk since you are bff with Google, check out the petrol prices in Germany and you might find out why someone might not want to drive an extra 73 km.
DeleteThese are exceptions mate.
DeleteI live in Germany 😊
Sure, no problem mate.
DeleteIn Germany these days hybrid cars are the most present with average fuel consumption of lets say 5l/100 km.
So you would need approx 3.5l to drive the distance of 75 km.
3.5l x 2.15 eur/l = 7.5 EUR
I am sure 7.5 EUR will decide if someone might choose MUC before FRA 🤣
I am glad you understood it for fuel costs. You are very welcome.
DeleteNew fare will be introduced in FRA and MUC.
So it makes no difference at all to attract MUC over FRA.
It’s not only the distance. Fra Has a chaotic construction and confusing a lot. While muc is simpler and easier.
DeleteWe knew they would be back to Belgrade. Welcome
ReplyDeleteHerzlich willNICHTkommen!
DeleteI for one am happy that they are back. MUC is a fabulous airport which offers fantastic connections.
DeleteI am very happy. Useful connection. Those who don't want them are free not to fly them and spend their hard won dinars elsewhere.
DeleteAtleast they are fixing all the mess they created. And interesting to see, LJU will actually get a boost in capacity, since before they were mainly flying with a 100 seat CRJ's, and now they are gonna be using much bigger planes with only three flights per week less.
ReplyDeleteLJU is on fire!
Delete90 seat CRJ-900 actually. So yes, nice bump in capacity.
DeleteOn this route it's more important to have more departures due to connections, not a bigger plane.
DeleteOh, then the increase is even bigger :)
DeleteNot to mention they've also upgraded Frankfurt to be 4x weekly on A321and A321neo
Delete@9:03 hahah
Delete@9.07 What is an easy way to access and see that data?
DeleteLH web page, foe example
DeleteNot sure how all this makes sense.
ReplyDeleteIf the demand was only for CRJ900, and they will be sending 20 year old A320/19s the cost per seat will be bigger, not to mention the wetlease of E195.
If the demand was there for A320 beforehand it's certainly gone because of their inconsistencies in the schedule in the past 2 months
Well these old A319s and A320s are actually owned by Lufthansa. The cost will be much lower. I don't think they owned the CRJs.
DeleteLH will get all this traffic back for sure.
DeleteTheir CEOs are well maintained AND have WiFi.
Yes. Wifi is very important for a 1h30 minute flight on which 98% of passengers don't even know the plane has wifi at time of booking
DeleteWhy don't you write an email to Lufthansa to inform them about it? They obviously lack the information you have.
DeleteNo, they are inundated with complaints and emails already as they cancelled hundreds of flights in the last two weeks.
Deleteyou are forgetting that many people dont buy ticket for Munich but they buy for somewhere else and they just use one of the LH hubs to get there. Many times even more than just one. I flew outbound via Frankfurt and Inbound via munich/zurich many times ...
DeleteCan't wait to fly with Lufthansa again now with their new basic economy fare where you can only have a small back pack and sit in filth now that they no longer clean planes all while wondering it the flight will operate due to possible strike.
ReplyDeleteGood, sarcastic summary of this once great airline. You could add an amazing 10 gr chocolate that you get... Somewhere I read that the onboard service costs them 0,33 euro per passenger...
DeleteYou should also mention that they have doubled their ticket cancellation fees in the last week. For some tickets it now costs 1000 EUR to cancel your ticket.
DeleteWhy would you cancel it, just don't show.
DeleteBecause you pay an even bigger penalty for not showing up.
DeleteIt's not sarcastic at all. It's actual truth
DeleteSo BEG-MUC will have up to 4 daily flights on some days. Quite impressive.
ReplyDeleteGreat to see Lufthansa back with 18 weekly flights. I love transfering in Munich, such an amazing airport.
This will just push BEG numbers.
DeleteSpiffing news guys!
ReplyDeleteLufthansa fanboys out in full display today. No matter what Sophr does to you, you would still fly this incompetent airline that shuts down subsidiaries over night, cancels flights, strikes every month and reduces service on a monthly basis
ReplyDeleteStockholm syndrome
DeleteI see Lufthansa haters have also arrived.
DeleteLufthansa overall is reliable, they offer a decent long-haul product and a fantastic network. There is a reason why they are popular. I guess you were hurt that JU lost its monopoly to MUC.
Um, Lufthansa had a monopoly for 18 years. lol
Delete@9.14 I think you will find the most vocal ones are actually JU haters, no so much Lufthansa fanbots. 9.15 is a good example. He is triggered by what you wrote and managed to throw in JU which you didn't mention.
I think that LH is the one who lost monopoly on MUC-BEG route.
DeleteThey lost it but JU gained it and they will lose it again.
DeleteThe fact you think JU thought Lufthansa would not resume flights. Especially since, unlike Ljubljana and Rijeka and Tivat they didn't actually suspend Belgrade. They still had flights
DeleteNo one said JU thought LH would not resume flights.
DeleteExactly.
Delete9:15 "Lufthansa overall is reliable". LOL!
DeleteEven CEO of LH could not say this. LH is everything but reliable.
Air Serbia will have comparing to LH on MUC-BEG or FRA-BEG huge advantage of hand luggage. Many might choose JU only because of it.
ReplyDeleteNot to mention that with previous LH cancellations and strikes JU turns out to be much more reliable company.
I guess we can expect them to boost VIE, ZRH, FRA etc. since they have that advantage now?
DeleteJU has already increased VIE this summer to 3 daily meaning they have 4 extra weekly flights compared to last summer.
DeleteTouché
Delete🤣
That was before the new fare was introduced. I guess they will increase it again since they will get a lot of extra passengers from OS.
DeleteQuite possible.
DeleteJust let's not forget that one of the reasons why passengers will avoid LH is their unreliability (strikes, cancellations).
OS and LX however were much more reliable so therefore you can't put in the same box ZRH and VIE together with MUC and FRA although they all belong to LHG.
Well he claimed passengers will switch to JU now so he included all LH Group airlines since this is their new policy. We can expect JU to add flights and capacity to VIE now.
DeleteNo, try to read carefully.
DeleteI mentioned also LH strikes and cancellations and it seems you intentionally skipped that part.
Pathetic.
Some people on here. Air Serbia will definitely not upgrade frequencies on routes just because they offer a free piece of hand luggage.
DeleteYeah, it is delusional.
DeleteLove Lufthansa! Thank you for not forgetting about us in BEG :)
ReplyDeleteOMG. You forgot to say Danke Deutschland and to offer JU to serve as their feeder. Lufthansa is cancer which kills everything that come in touch with
DeleteYour comments are increasingly loopy. Calm down sir
DeleteMaybe you should explain your statements, not just offend, simultaneously addressing with "sir", which is pure contradiction.Many many companies ruined or placed under control by LHG prove my words. Can you give explanation what's "loopy" about me and my text, where did you find me upset or irritated and why should I "calm down"? Because you disagree with my opinion? And because of it you are supposed to insult me?
DeleteI have reason to isult you. Your obsession with shame just makes you look strange. But all the best.
Delete* no reason.
DeleteIn recent years, I’ve preferred flying with Air Serbia. I frequently travel on the Belgrade–Vienna route, and overall my experience has been very positive.
ReplyDeleteAustrian Airlines, as part of the Lufthansa Group, certainly plays an important role when it comes to transfer flights. However, prices with Lufthansa are usually significantly higher. On top of that, upcoming fare changes will remove the inclusion of free carry-on baggage. In my view, this makes the Lufthansa Group less distinguishable from low-cost carriers such as Ryanair.
I hope Air Serbia does not follow the same path regarding carry-on baggage. In fact, I believe Air Serbia still has strong potential to position itself well in markets like Munich. Competition with Lufthansa won’t be easy, but I’m confident they can still achieve solid results.
Best of luck to Air Serbia!
Agree.
DeletePrices are higher because if you fly P2P you're a seat blocker for potential transfers.
DeleteAir Serbia is also offering transfers from VIE via BEG, and prices are no higher.
DeleteYet despite all that you wrote Lufthansa Group remains one of the most successful airlines in Europe.
DeleteI don’t think anyone with a bit of common sense would question the size and success of the Lufthansa Group, especially compared to Air Serbia. However, Air Serbia has significantly improved its service in recent years, with fewer cancellations and more punctual flights—and as a passenger, that means a lot to me.
DeleteAt the same time, if I now have to pay extra for almost everything with Lufthansa, while Air Serbia offers more for less money, then it really comes down to personal preference—everyone can choose what suits them best 🙂
They could and SHOULD have made this transition smooth. I'm shocked how poorly this was executed. Instead of Lufthansa mainline taking over CityLine flights smoothly, they made a random gap of 1.5 months, losing costumers and creating chaos. Im baffled they could not operate for 1.5 more months and then the main airline just taking over.
ReplyDeleteLH feeds MUC hub for long distance flights, JU will feed BEG for touristic destinations in Greece etc. plus Russian diaspora. In the area of P2P they will compete by price (incl. luggage options).
ReplyDeleteIn the previous seasons it was at least from FRA often cheaper to fly to Greece via BEG instead of a direct flight.
Finally a comment with brains, based on facts, and not cheerleading or fanboy. Thanks for your objectivity 🙂
DeleteIs it possible that after the collapse of the Lufthansa branch, Croatia flies to Munich with ATR and Dash so that airport fees are lower because these are smaller planes (similar) to those that had the same equipment (thus access to terminals) at the airport.
ReplyDelete