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| Hainan Airlines from Chongqing to Zadar from May 1 |
Hainan Airlines will introduce charter flights from Chongqing, in China’s south-west, to Zadar from May 1. The service will operate once per week with the exact aircraft type and fares to be determined in the coming weeks. The CEO of Zadar Airport, Irena Ćosić, finalised the details of the new year-long service in Beijing recently where the Civil Aviation Administration of China (CAAC) issued necessary permits for the new route. In the future, Hainan will consider adding Zadar to its scheduled destination network by introducing the city as a stopover on its two weekly service from Chongqing to Rome, which will launch on April 27.
Speaking at a press conference in Zadar yesterday, Ms. Ćosić said, “I cannot stress enough how important this development is for our airport. We now have a year-long route and will need to employ additional staff”. The CEO adds that Zadar will hold talks with Hainan at the end of March regarding the introduction of scheduled services from Chongqing. “According to our information, Hainan Airlines is not satisfied with loads on its Rome service so we see an opportunity here for the airline to improve its numbers if flights were to operate via Zadar”, Ms. Ćosić said.
An estimated 25.000 Chinese tourists will use the new charter service to Zadar. The flights have been initiated by the Chinese Southeast Europe Business Association (CSEBA). According to Ms. Ćosić, Zadar’s position on the Adriatic coast will give Chinese tourists an opportunity to make a quick visit to Italy as well. Charters between China and Croatia would mark the first air link between the two countries. Chinese tourists will be offered holiday packages in Croatia which will include cruising and tours as well as winter sports during the season. Far off markets hold huge potential for Croatia's tourism industry. Zadar Airport handled some 495.000 passengers in 2014, an improvement of 5% compared to the year before. Hainan Airlines is China’s largest privately owned carrier and the fourth busiest Chinese airline.
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Može li ovo značiti nešto u kontekstu kupvine Croatije?
Somebody posted this link in the comments couple hours ago...
Given that this will start as a charter and different civil aviation law applies when it comes to runway length plus clear way requirements compared to a regular public transport service they may legally and remember this is European JAA-JAR law be able to land and take off.
I still have no idea how the aircraft can turn to backtrack or use the taxiways at Zadar.
If I get the time I will have a closer look at the Jepps for Zadar and read through the JAA-JAR RPT and charter airports requirements.
Has the CAA (Croatian Aviation Authority) approved the flights? if yes, then I stand corrected as they would base the decision based on JAA-JAR standards.
I'm happy for Zadar if this is true but I still have my doubts and I'm sure that RPT or regular scheduled flights would not be legal but like I said I'm happy to be corrected. :)
Given that this will start as a charter and different civil aviation law applies when it comes to runway length plus clear way requirements compared to a regular public transport service they may legally and remember this is European JAA-JAR law be able to land and take off.
I still have no idea how the aircraft can turn to backtrack or use the taxiways at Zadar.
If I get the time I will have a closer look at the Jepps for Zadar and read through the JAA-JAR RPT and charter airports requirements.
Has the CAA (Croatian Aviation Authority) approved the flights? if yes, then I stand corrected as they would base the decision based on JAA-JAR standards.
I'm happy for Zadar if this is true but I still have my doubts and I'm sure that RPT or regular scheduled flights would not be legal but like I said I'm happy to be corrected. :)
There are 65-120 planes per month in winter (November-March) and it is average of 91 planes per month or 3 planes per day.
A332 at MTOW bi mogao da uzleti na onoj pistiu ZAD od 2500m posto njemu treba 2206m
INN-NS
Mecedonia and Serbia lead European airports growth:
http://www.anna.aero/2015/02/18/european-airports-see-traffic-grow-5-5-2014/?utm_source=anna.aero+newsletter&utm_campaign=0d3e794e68-anna_nl_180215&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_ecdbf41674-0d3e794e68-86872497
You have to apply the legal safety factor to the calculated take off and landing distance. On a wet runway the legal landing distance could be increased by almost a factor of 2!
Takeoff distance varies a lot and is based on many different factors but the calculated distance required has to be multiplied by 20% safety factor (from memory) for regular public transport.
Charter can getaway with a lot less and might make this service legal but just.
Also, the CAA has to take into account that this will not be a one off charter thus the chance of an incident occurring on take off or landing increases and for this may not approve it. Croatia could risk it's international civil aviation safety reputation and put certain international civil agreements it has at risk if something did happen and it was found that certain international norms were not followed.
I asked the question if these flight have been approved by the CAA? They could have good reason to not allow these flights.
Hainan could easily just plan for a suitable alternate like Zagreb to make the flights legal but this is usually a legal loop hole that regulators would approve of on one off charters. Weekly, could be a different story.
Abu Dhabi 14 tjedno
Amsterdam 10 tjedno
Athens 7 tjedno
Banja Luka 3 tjedno
Beirut 3 tjedno
Berlin 7 tjedno
Brussels 7 tjedno
Bucharest 6 tjedno
Budapest 7 tjedno
Copenhagen 5 tjedno
Dusseldorf 7 tjedno
Frankfurt 7 tjedno
Istanbul 7 tjedno
Larnaca 3 tjedno
Ljubljana 7 tjedno
London 7 tjedno
Milan 6 tjedno
Moscow 12 tjedno
Paris 14 tjedno
Podgorica 17 tjedno
Prag 10 tjedno
Rome 7 tjedno
Sarajevo 7 tjedno
Skopje 7 tjedno
Sochi 1 tjedno
Sofia 7 tjedno
Stockholm 5 tjedno
Stuttgart 7 tjedno
Tel Aviv 4 tjedno
Thessaloniki 5 tjedno
Tirana 3 tjedno
Titvat 7 tjedno
Vienna 14 tjedno
Warsaw 6 tjedno
Zagreb 14 tjedno
Zurich 14 tjedno
Tek 274 leta tjedno ili ti 39 dnevno. Obzirom na flotu od 19 aviona ovo znači tek 2 leta po avionu.
I još se na sve to otkazuje oko 20% letova svaki dan.
Ja ne znam sta bi vi radili da znate da su letovi dobro popunjeni.
INN-NS
Šta hoćeš da kažeš sa ovim redom letenja? Čekaj da počne letnji red letenja pa ćeš videti da su avioni uvek u vazduhu. S obzirom da je zimski red letenja ovo je solidan broj letova. Šta reći tek za OU?
Zasto niste napisali zimski red letenja za OU i smanjenja frekvencija u odnosu na leto? Ili zasto ne kritikujete broj putnika na letovima ZAG-SKP ili ZAG-PRN? Broj putnika je ocajan. Zasto konstantno trazite letove ASLa na kojima je popunjenost ocajna? Naravno da ima takvih letova, svaka aviokompanija ih ima.
Is it me or is the new Air Serbia schedule to TLV a total disaster?
Wizz fares for June are rather high (higher then I would want to pay them), JP surprisingly low but when i summarize i dont see benefits if I choose JP
price:same
duration: quicker with Wizz overall ! (transport to the vukojebina Wizz regional airport included), transfer at LJu in one direction is 3hours
service: SAME! (didnt know you have to pay for a glass of water now @JP)
comfort: ok JP wins here (airports, planes, better pax-crowd lol)
What would you book??
quick vs comfort is the question here and the non existing service at JP is a major blow too
S jedne strane kazete da ASL ima los LF, s druge strane kazete da se mnogo letova otkazuje, povlaci..
Naravno da ce aviokompanija smanjiti frekvencije tokom zime ako je broj putnika znatno manji. Naravno da ce otkazati let ako ima 2 putnika.
Ето најбољи пример, Љубљана није 7 већ око 10 летова недељно.
Исто тако, одавно је већ установљено да авиони сада иду у сервисирање тако да ЈУ нема 19 авиона... барем не тренутно.
Znam ja dobro Engleski nego necu da ga koristim ovde.
Ja sam to napisao kad je suvo vreme.
Onda se meni cini sve vise da ce se leteti sa 738 sa stopoverom u TSE.
Ali ne mogu shvatiti da nisu izabrali ZAG ko da je bog zna koliko skuplje.
INN-NS
As to answer your question, the problem is that JU couldn't get a decent slot in Tel Aviv.
TRN-SPU 2 nedeljno sa VY do 7 sep.
Bice zanimljivo leto u SPU.
INN-NS
Mislim da je oko 1.90 1.95mil pax realno ove godine
I za vašu informaciju CTN ima 256 tjednih letova ali na 12, tj. 7 manje aviona.
Kako to mislite da Air Serbia nema flotu od 19 aviona? Naravno da ima, i većina jest prizemljena. To i je poanta ovog komentara.
Air Serbia koristi trenutnu flotu sa tek 50% i još na sve to otkazuje letove da bi poboljšala LF. Sve to je skupo (posade i avioni nezaposleni, komenzacije za otkazivanja, image, konekcije) i donosi vrlo nizak yield.
I konačno on je mnogo puta javno rekao kako je Air Serbia bitno bolja kompanija od Croatie. No, to ne znači da je Air Serbia savršena i da se ne smije staviti nikakva kritika.
Konačno, zar sam nešto preskočio. Koji dan je on kritizirao Air Serbiu na ovom ili nekom drugom blogu?
What's going on in IST today? All flights to BEG cancelled and when you zoom fr24.com looks like they have a lot of ground vehicles cleaning runways....flights from ORD and JFK circling for quite a while.
Anybody knows what's going on?
Would be strange if it's really a snow storm...
Bogami po toj logici bliže je Skopje da preotme treću poziciju Splitu, nego Split 2. Zagrebu.
Кроацијан може да има колико хоћеш недељних летова, оно што нема је загарантована будућност. ;)
pusa
Pomenuo sam OU zato sto je i on pominjao OU u svojim komentarima. On moze da pominje Air Serbiju, a ja ne mogu Croatiju?
Broj zrakoplovnih putnika u Zagrebu za posljednjih 5 godina narastao je za 370.000 putnika. U Splitu taj broj je narastao za 540.000 putnika. To je razlika od 30.000 putnika godišnje. Zanemarivo.
No, da preduhitrimo bilo kakvu raspravu. Zagreb nema fobiju od Splita. Hvala bogu da ima putnika u Splitu. Split je turistička raskrsnica i mi smo u Zagrebu vrlo sretni kada on raste. Kod nas u Hrvatskoj je normalno da se podržavaju lokalni aerodromi i zajednice, za razliku od nekih drugih država u okruženju gdje se sve centralizira.
pusa
Pusa
I wish it could change like it did in Serbia where there are two functional airports. Lucky people... especially since JU is the only ex-YU carrier with its future secured.
Но добро, ми имамо Ер Србију и Визер кој има базу у Београду као и редовне летове из Ниша. Јадни ми, да нам је као у Хрватској. ;)
1. Naravno da je Air Serbia trebala srezati linije, svi to rade zimi. To je način kako smanjiti gubitke. No, Air Serbia je neke linije previše smanjila tijekom zime, neke nije smjela toliko smanjiti ako želi biti mrežna zrakoplovna kompanija i napraviti hub JI Europe u Beogradu
2. Dodatna otkazivanja letova (izvan reda letenja) su vrlo loša za image kompanije, putnici to neće prihvatiti sretno, a i ostavlja dojam da Air Serbija nije u stanju održati vlastiti red letenja. Trebalo je tako što predvidjeti prije i napraviti takav red letenja. U svakom slučaju dodatna rezanja već, u nekim slučajevima, previše izrezanog reda letenja još su slabija vijest za BEG kao tranzitni hub.
3. Velik broj prizemljenih letjelica i posada koje dobivaju plača za sjedenje kod kuće i kompenzacije za otkazivanja letova svakako neće pridonijeti yieldu. Trebalo je te avione zaposliti na trećim tržištima, turističkim letovima, iznači model koji bi privukao putnike i povećao broj letova. To je ogroman problem Croatie airlines, a bojim se da Air Serbia ne odgovara dobro na isti taj problem.
cmok
Skužili smo, doista. Ne moraš svakog dana, tjedno bi bilo posve OK.
Turkish Airlines is not providing any assitance to the stranded passengers... some people should remember that the next time they are bashing JU.
This morning: 29 and 57 passengers.
This evening : 64 and 30 passengers.
On tonight's Rome there are 156 passengers.
Pusa
I don't mind if it's 0, it's just a number. I do mind when bots abuse this site with LF info for ANY airline. If you already know LF info, enjoy it in solitude, don't spam this this site and don't test our (and moderators) patience.
http://www.aviationeconomics.com/NewsItem.aspx?title=Fare-data-and-route-profitability
For that reason (and h8ter comments that usually follow LF posts) I would like to suggest to moderator purging all LF comments (good or bad, for JU, OU or any other airline) from this blog.
There is a small difference between hundreds of cancelled flights and tens of thousands of stranded passengers (where there is simply nothing you can do) and a single cancelled flight (which is mostly the case with ASL and should be dealt with routinely).
Zagreb will end up like Bucharest. During the dumping season they will attract a lot of people and then later on once the fares go slightly up people will still chose them. Actually, this is what happened in Tirana, Bucharest and Sofia.
In conclusion, whoever has the loads, please, keep on positing them and ignore these bitter sad souls.
But even with those 6 companies they own 100% they have 3 times more planes than Etihad and more than 4 times bigger profit that Etihad. So how can Etihad buy them?
Grow up please. And do not compare JU to TK in any single aspect. Any. Single. Aspect.