Croatia Airlines to lease Fokker 100 aircraft


Croatia Airlines will wet lease a Fokker 100 aircraft from its Zagreb-based counterpart Trade Air, as it looks to boost its regional fleet this summer. According to "Airline Route", the 109-seat F100 aircraft is scheduled to operate on several of Croatia Airlines' routes, including its newly planned service to Lisbon from May 20. Furthermore, the carrier will utilise the jet on flights from Zagreb to Brussels, four times per week starting May 20, Zagreb to Copenhagen, three times per week from May 21, Zagreb to Barcelona, once per week commencing May 26 and on services from Zagreb to Athens via Dubrovnik effective June 13. Further changes, and the lease of additional aircraft, are possible. The lease will allow Croatia Airlines to assign its Bombardier Dash 8 regional turboprops onto new services from Zagreb to Prague and Milan, as well as new seasonal flights from Pula to Zurich.

Croatia Airlines itself is yet to officially announce the wet lease, but has previously said, "Negotiations regarding the completion of the process of introducing 100-seat aircraft in Croatia Airlines’ fleet, according to the wet lease principle, are still in progress". Last week, the carrier told EX-YU Aviation News it would publicise its fleet changes by the start of the 2016 summer season, which begins on March 27. Initially, the airline scheduled to operate the Embraer E195 jet on a number of routes, however, these have now been removed from the system. Last week, the German "Skyliner Magazine" noted that two Bombardier CRJ900 aircraft, formally operated by the now defunct Estonian Air, are in East Midlands where they are being painted in the Croatia Airlines colour scheme. However, the two 84-seat aircraft have now returned to Tallinn in an all-white livery.

Through a wet lease arrangement, the lessor provides an aircraft, crew and maintenance to the lessee. Trade Air has two F100 jets in its fleet and has operated a number of flights on behalf of Croatia Airlines in the past, mostly during the busy summer season when the Croatian carrier is need of additional aircraft. Trade Air will take delivery of an Airbus A320 next month. Croatia Airlines' CEO, Krešimir Kučko, previously said he is in favour of adding Embraer jets to the carrier's fleet. “If Croatia Airlines was to buy more aircraft today it would choose an Embraer model”, he said. In its response to EX-YU Aviation News, Croatia Airlines did not specify whether it will lease one or more regional aircraft, however, last year, Mr Kučko noted the carrier plans to operate two 100-seat jets in 2016 with an additional two to four to join in the coming years.

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  1. Anonymous09:04

    Didn't purger said so a month ago? Purger will Croatia lease second Fokker also? Is this A320 in Trade air maybe bought because of possible lease to Croatia Airlines?

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    1. Anonymous09:39

      I don't think they need the A320 at the moment but something between Dash 8 and A320.

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    2. Purger10:33

      For now just 1 Fokker. 2nd one and A320 will be just for ad hoc charters. They will bring one Jetstream for PSO routes 16 flights per week from OSI, ZAG, PUY, RJK, SPU and DBV).

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    3. Anonymous15:17

      OU is talking to Bombardier in getting CS100s. Plan is to lease to own up to 4 CS100s from Bombardier starting 2018 , deal isn't done yet, they are still talking. F100s and other alternatives will cover summer of 2016, 2017 and perhhaps even 2018. New CS100s will remain in the fleet from there on.

      Q400s will also remain in service, with all 6 to be fully utilized in regional and domestic network.

      Twin class configuration is being favoured with 100 economy and 8 business seats on offer.

      Value of the deal for 4 aircraft is expected to be around $300 million paid over 10 year lease to own agreement.

      OU will own up to 20 aicraft come 2022 with introduction of 4 A320 Neos in 2021 with older A320 and A319 being retired sometimes after. No replacement for old A319 has yet been agreed on, however it is likely it'll be a combination of CS100 and A320 Neos, all lease to own.

      OU will concentrate on two manufacturers to fully utilize OU's own maintenance centre at Zagreb airport, which has plan to expand even further with 4th hanger to be constructed in mid to late 2018.

      OU's maintenance division is one of the most profitable part of the OUs operations and with maintenance book full till the end of 2017 plans for 4th and 5th hangers are under foot, with 5th hanger planned for late 2020.

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    4. Anonymous15:31

      wow very interesting. That would be fantastic. Thank you for the info.

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    5. Anonymous17:11

      Ako je to istina napravili su gresku sto su porucili A320 Neo i ako mi je to jedan od omiljenih aviona trebali su onda 4 CS3 I 4 CS1 uz Q400 da imaju jedan tip mislim da bi dobili dosta povlastica kod Bombardier-a sto bilo i bolje za OU Tehniku.
      INN-NS

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    6. Purger21:28

      INN potpuno se slažem sa tobom. Onda se trebalo ići na 4 CS3 i 4 CS1.

      No, ovo je već 10 plan u kratkoj povijesti Kučka kao CEO. Nakon 9 potpuno različitih planova nekako ne vjerujem dok ne vidim.

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    7. But I thought the A320neo order was necessary because Airbus wouldn't just let CTN cancelled their A319 order.

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    8. Purger00:15

      For sure Airbus will not let them from the hook. But in scenario of 20 planes I would take:

      6 Q400
      6 CS1
      4 CS3
      4 A320neo

      ili
      6 Q400
      4 CS1
      4 CS3
      2 najbolja i najmlađa A319 iz stare flote (samo tijekom ljetne sezone, a zimi ih stacionirati)
      4 A320neo

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    9. I honestly think that right now it strongly doesn't make sense for CTN to invest in the Cseries. The reason why the Cseries is not having a lot of sales is because of it's high cost. This would be more than justified if fuel prices were higher, but now that the fuel costs are low, it makes more sense to keep flying older planes with lower capital costs.

      It is all about opportunity costs. What makes more sense, acquiring the Cseries, or doing something similar to Trade air such as buying some older Airbus planes to increase capacity during the summer and to park/lease during the winter?

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    10. Purger02:10

      True, absolutely true. But, unfortunately you don't buy planes for tomorrow and for another 5-6 years. What you buy today will come in 3-4 years and you will use it for some 20 years (so till 2040 at least).

      Airbuses have 16-18 years now, in 2020 (when new A320neo and CS could come) they will have 20-22 years. So, to choose 2-3 of those it is OK (you can use them than for another 6-7 years), but to leave all of them? You can use them for 4-5 years after 2020 and than they will be much too old.

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  2. Anonymous09:05

    ok choice but I would prefer the CRJ 900. Hopefully there is more fleet expansion coming.

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  3. Anonymous09:11

    Trade Air F100 cabin looks nice actually. This is probably the least expensive option for OU.

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  4. Anonymous09:40

    Don't understand hat they still haven't sorted out their summer fleet less than a month before the summer season starts.

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    1. Anonymous12:51

      Same with Air Serbia.

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    2. Anonymous13:06

      How so? Air Serbia is leasing (ie getting as compensation for Inex Adria crash) a CRJ900 from June. SO they have their fleet sorted.

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    3. Anonymous13:56

      They dont have it sorted out. CRJ flights are not loaded into the system. This is not made official by Air Serbia and flights to PRN, Ohrid and Kiev are not confirmed.

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    4. Anonymous14:06

      Yep, the aircraft will be put in the system when the new destinations are put in the system which won't be before April because flights start in late June. Just because you are not aware of their plans, does not mean they haven't finalized their summer timetable. Also there is another destination on top of three you mentioned.

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    5. Anonymous15:13

      What is it? Orodea ?

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    6. Anonymous15:16

      BTW would it not be better in terms of ticket sales to announce flights now and start selling.

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    7. Anonymous20:23

      They also mentioned St Petersburg. Its not final until its for sale. If someone wants to buy ticket to Kiev for June they have to buy from competition because JU thinks its better not to sell it now.

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    8. Anonymous00:26

      "Air Serbia is leasing (ie getting as compensation for Inex Adria crash) a CRJ900 from June."

      You serious? Explaine...

      COMPENSATION to AIR SERBIA?!!!

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  5. Anonymous09:45

    Ja mislim da nema nista ni od CRJ ni od ERJ uzeli su F100 sto mislim da im je trenutno dovoljno i da je najjeftinija opcija i odavno su trebali da pocnu takvu saradnju.
    A u ostalom ne znam gde da uposle 2 nova CRJ ako ih bude trebalo bi 8 destinacija novih.
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    1. Mogu se povecati frekvencije na postojecim linijama, uvesti se neke charter, sezonske linije, uvijek se nade nacina nije OU fokusirana samo na Zagreb.

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    2. Anonymous10:05

      Sve je to lepo ali bi trebali bas vise da se fokusiraju na Hub sistem .
      Ali treba opet kazem naci 8 linija novih.
      INN-NS

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    3. Purger10:36

      Osim ovih najavljenih 5 novih linija, povečava se broj frekvencija na nekim linijama. No, i za sve to je dovoljan samo jedan avion. Bojim se da osim ovog jednog Fokkera neće biti novih dodataka. Spala knjiga na dva slova.

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    4. Anonymous17:12

      Steta je onda sto su opste pricali o tome samo su se osramotili.
      INN-NS

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    5. Anonymous18:55

      Joj, INN, tolko si proziran :D

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  6. Anonymous09:50

    2 CRJ dolaze uskoro, farbaju se trenutno.

    OT: TK opet A321 za ZAG danas :)

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    1. Hoce li se i fokkeri obojiti ili ce ostati takvi kavi jesu?

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    2. Anonymous09:52

      Koji CRJ? Ako mislis na one iz Tallinn-a: "However, the two 84-seat aircraft have now returned to Tallinn in an all-white livery."

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    3. Anonymous10:00

      treci se isto all-white vratio u TLL

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    4. Anonymous10:07

      Nema veze sto su skroz beli tako je ponekad u dosta slucajeva u wet-lease i dalje je moguce da ce doci pa da vidimo gde ce ih uposliti.
      INN-NS

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    5. Obadva CRJ900 od Estonaca su jos u East Middlands i nisu se vratila u TLL.

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    6. Anonymous16:49

      Vratila su se 28.2

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    7. Vec se vratili ???
      Pa to je nesto brzo bilo :P

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  7. Sounds a bit wishy woshy so either OU are just keeping their cards close to their chest or Kucko is unable to make the final decision....?? This could be the end of Kucko. (Just speculating)

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    1. Anonymous12:23

      Correct he is on his way out. That's why no decisions are made

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    2. Purger12:50

      There is information that Government will wait till August as his contract is dated till than.

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    3. Anonymous15:39

      @Q400March 7, 2016 at 10:34 AM

      OU is getting CS100, almost done deal, they're still negotiating finites of the deal, deal won't be announced till all the contracts are signed.

      Four CS100s are in discussion, entry service date around 2018 summer season and 2019. Deal is valued at $300 million. Four Spare engines are also part of the deal. Bombardier is in direct talks with the OU, similar but more expensive deal OU made for 6 Q400.

      E190 was also looked at, however E2 won't be ready before 2018 and OU is trying to avoid 3 aircraft manufactures. Also CS100 is superior aircraft and more value for money.

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    4. Anonymous17:27

      Source please?!Or this is an information from a parallel universe....again?

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    5. Anonymous17:41

      gde je sad ASL da reaguje. mogli su biti prvi operater u ovom delu Evrope koji uvodi C seriju. takodje mogli su unificirati flotu upotrebom modela 100, 200 i 300. konacno, to je bila i sansa za jat tehniku da bude regionalni centar za servisiranje C serije. ceo projekat bi se mogao ispregovarati kao jedinstveni paket uz drzavne garancije i prosao bi uz silne finansijske pogodnosti. sve u svemu steta, ovog puta je skoro propala CTN nadigrala favorizovani ASL.

      ATCO

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    6. The sooner the better.........

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  8. Dubrovnik is up 64.62% this February compared to last...

    Star Wars effect maybe?

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    1. Anonymous10:41

      It's because of Mercedes Benz global training which happened in February. Lots of charters operated.

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  9. Anonymous15:07

    I had a feeling they might go for Lufthansa's Embraers.

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    1. Which Embraers?They dont have regional jets for even for them.Ausburg Embraers are at Austrian now.

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    2. Anonymous19:19

      Not true. OS is taking over only like 75 percent of the Embraers from LH. Doesnt make sense that LH keeps only a few of them, that will be too expensive for maintenance.

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  10. Anonymous15:08

    What does TAP fly with to Zagreb at the moment? If they failed with a larger aircraft, the F100 could be a good choice for Croatia Airlines.

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    1. Croatia will use F100 for Lisbon route.

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  11. TAP actually did ok: to be precise, it did very well in the summer, and so-so in the winter. part of TAP's limited success were poor connection times for flights to South America in LIS and not lack of the market...

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  12. Anonymous16:06

    Anonymus 3.08, they didn't fail.

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  13. DANE KONDIC DEFENDS THE WINTER REDUCTIONS AND SINGLE AIRCRAFT LONGHAUL OPERATIONS.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11f8E1JAVS0

    Etihad always has an A340-500 parked and ready to go on short notice.

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    1. Anonymous17:20

      Аха.. the only issue is that it's 5 hours away. Does it also mean EY will have a standby crew in case JU's A332 goes tech? Dane is silly.

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    2. Anonymous17:26

      Mogao je spomenuti da broj putnika opada od avgusta. Ist tako sve te brojke koje je naveo će biti validne tek kada se javno objave. Svi se sećamo kako se hvalio Etihad da je profitabilan pa se posle ispostavilo da prima goleme subvencije od države pa čak i od aerodroma kao što je to bio slučaj u SYD-u.

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    3. Anonymous17:38

      EY je jedna od najboljih kompanija na svetu tako da ne znam sto ste ljubomorni .
      EY je naravno profitabilan to sto pisu pojedine novine nemora da znaci da je istina .
      I nema EY 10 pilota pa da nema rezervu .
      INN-NS

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    4. Anonymous18:54

      Aha... evo ga bot. Hoces da kažeš da Delta laže kada je objavila dokument gde su navedene subvencije koje je primio EY? Ako ti znaš bolje onda odmah zameni Andersona, čovek ide ovako i onako u penziju.

      U tom regionu postoji samo jedna prava i profitabilna aviokompanija i ona se zove Emirates.

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    5. Anonymous20:34

      @5:26 Ako su u minusu sa putnicima od avgusta onda je plus od 11% prošle godine fenomenalan.

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    6. Anonymous20:54

      Pa pravo da ti kažem i jeste. Ajde, nadajmo se najboljem. Mada i sam Dane ne veruje u ove letove za Ameriku ali šta će kada to nije do njega.

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    7. Anonymous21:43

      Delta i ostale usa kmpanije su u poslednjih 15 ak god primile preko 30 milijardi usd al ito se nigde ne objavljuje.

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    8. Purger22:13

      Fasciniran sam sa čovijekom. OK, naravno da on malo uljepšava stvari, pa tko ne bi na njegovom mjestu? Naravno da neće biti latko samo tako rerutirati 200 putnika ako, nedaj bože, avion ispadne iz prometa, ali nije ni da se nema parnera (Air Berlin, Etihad, Alitalija, Virgin). A ovo što govori za rezervni A340 u hangaru Etihada jest malo nategnuto. Nije da to nije moguće, nije da je 5 sati za ferry smak svijeta (jest to skupo i operacijski teže, ali nije smak svijeta), i na koncu da to je skupo, ali bilo koje ispadanje aviona, pa da ih imaš i 100 u floti je skupo. No tu mene više brine činjenica da neće Etihad tako lako poslati svoj rezervni avion i sebe staviti u rizik. Mislim da to baš i nije previše realno, poglavito što oni taj avion koriste ne samo u slučaju izvanrednih okolnosti, nego i kada su im avioni na održavanju.

      U svakom slučaju avioni se ne kvare baš tako lako, pogotovo ne na više dana, a u takvom slučaju postoje i short notice ACMI and wet lease kompanije poput Titana iz Londona (1x 767-300ER i 2x 757-200) koje, istina, jesu skupe, ali su tu. Konačno, pa i Croatia, Adria, Jat i druge kompanije su koristile jako skupu ACMI i wet lease kompaniju Trade Air. Kada ti je avion out onda gubiš novac, samo nastojiš izgubiti što manje. Sastavni dio posla. Iskreno jeftinije je i sigurnije računati na Titan ili slične kompanije nego na Etihad.

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    9. From how I interpreted the interview, it seems like Mr. Kondić is implying that Etihad has already pledged their assistance in the case of an AOG situation at ASL.

      I doubt that the people at Etihad would simply turn a blind eye to such a crisis at their subsidiary. It is in their interest to protect ASL.

      And the cost of ferrying an A340 from AUH to BEG is certainly expensive, but such unplanned events are unavoidable in any business, and they must be planned for. Air Serbia is going to have a major increase in revenue in 2016. It seems like launching longhaul might have been a very good decision because as Mr. Kondić has noted, it is going to increase the loads on ASL's shorthair network.

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    10. Purger00:09

      We all know that long haul will support short haul routes. Problem is that long haul is huge risk, very expensive with huge competition. Because of that it can destroy company.

      As I said Etihad A340 is there for them. They use it in case of technical problems but also in case of maintenance of other aircraft. So, basically I don't see real possibility that this plane would be on disposal for Air Serbia.

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    11. Kondic said that the A340-500 "is at our disposal", so that indicates that he has been assured that Etihad will support ASL. I don't know why so many users on this site seem to think that Etihad would not 100% support ASL in such an event. James Hogan even came to Belgrade to announce BEG-JFK, and an important and busy man as himself doesn't just waste time unless he is serious about an idea.

      And starting longhaul flights might have been the best idea in a long time. All sources, even Mr. Kondic in his interview, have stated that ticket sales are exceeding expectations. Fuel prices are extremely low right now, too.

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    12. Anonymous03:16

      " All sources, even Mr. Kondic in his interview, have stated that ticket sales are exceeding expectations."
      While he did say this, we cannot expect him to say that sales are going so so or bad? I dont have a single clue about sales to JFK, but it is his job to try and present everything in the best light possible whether true or not. This is not a comment criticizing you Aleksander since you stated what was said in the interview, but I just wanted to point out that we cannot get the clear picture based on this question.

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    13. JATBEGMEL03:26

      Interesting video, thanks for posting.

      As I had mentioned, and what Dane himself mentioned, incase of AOG they will have support from EY and partners, as well as the standard other partners. It wouldnt be the first time for any airline, Ive myself seen LH, OS, CA and EK reroute pax, never an easy task nor is it wished upon but it happens to even the best of airlines. Importance is there are more than 1 back up plans. As for the A345, the aircraft is being removed from the EY fleet and theyre relying on it less and less, especially since new ac (B787 and A350) are entering the fleet. A340 is the same rating as A330, however a couple of extra days (2-3) in SEP training is needed. EY has many Serbian crew which have the type rating to jump in if needed, plus there has been some temporary transfers from JU to EY, so crewing flights shouldnt be too much of a challenge.

      Now touching on the route itself feeding short haul, its an interesting approach. I think an opportunity is there, other than TK there is no other full year service from the Balkans to the US, while a market does exist, from which Star Alliance has an almost monopoly and charge a premium in some airports (compare prices in SJJ and BEG). One of their biggest expenses has become much cheaper (fuel) which should ease the pain of launching long haul. JU also enters at a time where is no regional competitors which puts it in a good position.

      Finally on numbers. I too am skeptical, I still think it is early considering the regional network is weak and the airline is still cutting down losses, however we can see numbers are being spoken which wasnt that common in Jat before which is a bit of a confindence boost. JU is very much affected by seasonal traffic, however Ive been suprised as to how well AUH has been filling this winter compared to the previous 2, a route I use very frequently.

      As I have mentioned many times before, I think the biggest problem for JU will be BEG and its limitations as a hub, considering it lacks basic things such as proper cafes and smoking zones as seen in other airports in the region, to not touch up on other things.

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    14. Superfan05:56

      Thumbs up for T6, Kondic interviews are extremely rare. Sensible and down-to-earth explanations with couple of key points. Impressive Nov/Dec YoY yield up by about 10%, RASK by about 20% as a result of winter cuts are hauntingly pragmatic, and a warning that Air Serbia will do whatever it takes to make it in the competitive airline business.

      Next one is defiance to go with the flow and do business just like others in Serbia, and instead break the mold and strive to bring in the best in global corporate governance into the company. That’s the winning attitude.

      Last one is rationale for the decision to go long haul before regional network reaches critical mass, and instead use long haul as a catalyst for growth of regional networks. My thought exactly, and a reason why admittedly risky JFK route must be followed shortly by more long haul destinations like YYZ and ORD. With EY and Government support, cheap oil and no regional competitor, now is the perfect storm to get ahead!

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    15. Anonymous07:27

      Ovaj članak dokazuje koliko JU nema izgovora. Svi znamo u kakvoj je situaciji Grčka i koliko pate. Ako su oni uspeli da rastu, čak i zimi, onda nema šta više da se Er Srbije opravdava. A pritom, Dane Kondić je daleko od jednog of sposobnijih CEO-a.

      http://m.atwonline.com/finance-data/aegean-airlines-reports-passenger-growth-15-2015?NL=ATW-04&Issue=ATW-04_20160307_ATW-04_552&sfvc4enews=42&cl=article_7_3&utm_rid=CPEN1000001837306&utm_campaign=5195&utm_medium=email&elq2=b6dc7abc1ce74e358e0acabc74b14d4c

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    16. Anonymous08:35

      @7:27 Uporedjujes svetsku turističku velesilu sa Srbijom?! Gde tebe ne pronadjoše umesto Kondića daleko bi dogurali..

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    17. JATBEGMEL09:55

      @ 7:27AM

      regardless of the crisis, purchase power is still much higher in Greece compared to Serbia, trade is much higher compared to Serbia, tourism not even worth mentioning. As an EU member, Greece has business and government travel which Serbia doesnt have at this moment. Fact is regardless of the Greek situation, Serbia has become one of the poorest nations in Europe. Investing in Serbia is not easy, too much corruption regarding employment, a large black market etc. A3 has also been growing the past several years whilst JU the past 2. ATH is much better suited as a hub, with a relatively new airport, facilities, terminal, infrastucture, all of which JU doesnt have in BEG. Regardless still of all this, for me personally JU is doing a great job.

      I had my first transit in BEG recently and have to say it was very smooth in BEG with JU and have to say it is of high standard. Staff have an excellent grasp of english unlike in IST for example. The biggest down side is BEG as I said before, which had a half stocked cafe which lacked staff as well as a highly overpriced duty free shop, over priced suvenir store and rude Belgrade Airport staff (non-JU) who were all on their phones either messaging or on a private call. Police added to a horrible feel seeming disintrested to do anything and the little they did looked to be a problem for them, they were untidy dressed and made comments they could keep to themselves.

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    18. Nemjee14:50

      You do realize that Greeks can't withdraw more than €400 euros per day, right? Their banking sector is collapsing, tourist bookings are falling because of the immigrants who have besieged the islands, Athens is constantly in a state of war because of chronic protests, unemployment is skyrocketing and so on and so forth.

      So Greece is far from being a heavenly place that is described by many on here. What made Aegean successful is good marketing, competitive prices and a hub system.

      Furthermore, Athens is extremely competitive and not to mention that Aegean also has to deal with Ryanair's growing presence there.

      So no, Aegean is not having it easy mostly because Greece is falling apart. Air Serbia might be based in a poor country with almost no economy but at least the business environment is far more stable than the on in Greece.

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    19. Nemjee15:21

      Talking of Aegean, today they got another A320, fresh from Toulouse.

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  14. Anonymous17:19

    OT
    Zaniljivo je da je EY danas poslao A320 takodje i sutra je pülaniran A320 nadam se da ce linija uskoro preci na A321.
    OS je takodje poslao E90 .
    INN-NS

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    1. Anonymous17:26

      Neretko šalju A320 tako da to nije ništa novo. Njihov A320 ima isto mesta kao JU-ov A319.

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    2. One A319 is out of service and that is why A320 has been sent to BEG for the last few days

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    3. Anonymous17:36

      Odma su negativci spremni sa odgovorima .
      To je zanimljivo i ako je A319 u defektu .
      INN-NS

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    4. Anonymous19:01

      Šta paranoišeš? Gde su hejteri?

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  15. Anonymous18:00

    OT: Intervju sa Kondicem, odgovori na pitanja kako ide prodaja karata za NYC, šta u slucaju kvara A330 i o smanjenju saobraćaja u zimskom redu letenja.

    http://tangosix.rs/2016/07/03/ekskluziv ... lnu-mrezu/

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  16. Anonymous19:07

    I'm anonymous 5:27PM,will someone please answer my question?In english please.

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  17. I just wonder why we went from 2 five year old CRJ 900 models that were supposedely painted in Croatian colors, to 1 Foker which is more than 20 years old? As a frequent user of Croatian, sorry but saving a few Euros on the lease does not make me feel great in a much older plane which is being used to its maximum!!

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    1. More precisely, 9A-BTD 23,7 years and 9A-BTE 23,5 years :)

      I believe Trade Air is much cheaper solution with wet-leasing, because they do not need to position their aircraft from XXX to ZAG, because their base is also ZAG.
      Second thing if OU lease CRJ900, what they are going to have dry leasing or wet leasing?
      If you have dry leasing, you need pilots for CRJ900 again type rating for CRJ900 for example from DASH8 pilots costs money and time. If you have wet-leasing then again this is much more expensive solution because aircraft have to position aircraft for flight to ZAG, and this again costs...

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    2. Thanks for the exact ages of the planes, besides the cost just interested in your poit of view, would you rather fly in a 23 year old Foker 100, or a 5 year old CRJ 900? I am sure that if the comments about Bombardier C Series being in Croatian's future are true, then with Bombardier's connections, a super deal could be worked out in the interim on some CRJ wet leases, it would be a win-win situation. Believe me this summer if those 2 Fokers are flying around the clock there will be maintenance issues, flights cancelled, and then the cost to re-book those passengers will come back to bite Croatian in the end!

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    They will use one F100 and the other is spare and can be used in case of problems. Trade Air also have much younger A320 to use instead of F100. I don't see and problems in that.

    Those F100 are ad hoc ACMI lease planes and they were not used so much (mostly they are parked in ZAG). So, they are in much better conditions than much younger planes of some regular or charter companies.

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    1. How they are not used so much, as I see F100 from Tradeair is flying a lot, one aircraft was last year in Africa, and another is all the time around for Adria,Croatia, Air France and others as ad hoc lease. But regarding years, both F100 are old, and time is ticking when it will be sold to some 3rd world country or scrapped.
      But for Trade air i can say, they have very good pilots and cabin crew, and this is very good for Croatia that also such a small company as ACMI lease is doing well.
      If CA need wet-lease is always better to hire croatian company than foreign, someone allready wrote in a comment that is better this way because "money stays at home".

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