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Flydubai hints at new EX-YU routes

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Hybrid carrier Flydubai is “very likely” to announce new seasonal routes to the former Yugoslavia in the next month with both Dubrovnik and Ljubljana in contention. Speaking to EX-YU Aviation News at the Dubai Airshow yesterday, Flydubai’s Senior Vice President for Commercial Operations, Jeyhun Efendi, said, “In the next one month we will be announcing our set of new summer destinations and a lot of European routes are coming, especially in the South. We can't talk about them right now but some of them that have been mentioned, like Dubrovnik and Ljubljana, may be in our network".  As EX-YU Aviation News learns, the airline has also held talks with several other airports along the Croatian coast this year. Despite considering Tuzla as a potential new route, Mr Efendi noted that the carrier ultimately ruled out the city due to its close proximity to Sarajevo and the relatively small market.

Flydubai launched seasonal operations to both Podgorica and Tivat this year, with the latter to resume next summer. "Because Tivat is a summer destination we shifted to Podgorica via Sarajevo during the winter. Our aim is to evaluate the route to see if Podgorica can be sustained year-round. Obviously it's not a big city population-wise, but we want to see how the Sarajevo - Podgorica flights will perform as well. At the moment, we plan to resume flights to Tivat again next summer. So we will see if Podgorica can be sustained year-round or will we just shift between Tivat and Podgorica each season. The airports are not too far from each other so we are still evaluating", Mr Efendi said. Tivat has performed well for the airline this past summer. In addition to attracting tourists from the Gulf region visiting the Montenegrin coastline and holidaying at Porto Montenegro, the luxury Dubai-owned yacht marina and waterfront development, the route has attracted a significant number of passengers from Albania as well.

Flydubai is also working with Emirates to better optimise its network. Apart from a wide-ranging codeshare agreement between the two airlines, which now covers all routes in the former Yugoslavia, both are seeking ways to better coordinate their schedules and even swap some destinations, either permanently or on a seasonal basis. "In Zagreb we did not coordinate our suspension with Emirates. This was a coincidence. However, as part of our cooperation with Emirates, besides having codeshare flights, we are going to have more network coordination. Since we have narrow-body aircraft, we are able to operate more routes. Out of 95 routes, more than sixty are not operated by Emirates. Part of our plan is to adjust our schedules. We will also look at swapping some routes with Emirates, depending on the demand. There is also the option of seasonal flights. For example, somewhere where there is demand during the summer, you may need a bigger machine [Emirates], while during the winter you might need to downgrade to less capacity [Flydubai]", the Senior Vice President said.

Commenting on its overall network in the former Yugoslavia, Mr Efendi noted, "Some of the highlights are going daily into Belgrade this month, as well as the new flights to Podgorica via Sarajevo". He added, "Sarajevo is one of our more popular routes but it is quite seasonal. Presently, we have four weekly flights and then, during the summer, operations will reach three daily services. This summer we have seen almost 50% passenger growth on this route. Travellers on this service predominantly come from Dubai, as well as our connecting flights from the Gulf. This is obviously inbound tourism".

Flydubai's new business class cabin on the B737 MAX 8

Flydubai is showcasing its new Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft at the Dubai Airshow this week. The jet is the first of 76 on order from Boeing, all of which will be delivered by 2023. The new aircraft feature a brand new on board product including new business and economy class seating. However, travellers from the former Yugoslavia will have to exercise patients prior to sampling the new product. The aircraft will initially be deployed on the airline's longest routes including Bangkok, Prague, Yekaterinburg and Zanzibar. The additional aircraft being delivered over the next few years will be rolled out across the fleet and will eventually become available on most of the routes in the airline's network.

Flydubai's new economy class cabin on the B737 MAX 8
November 14, 2017
Belgrade bosnia and herzegovina croatia Dubrovnik Ljubljana montenegro podgorica sarajevo serbia slovenia Summer 2018 tivat Tuzla zagreb
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Anonymous said…
Waiting to hear how the flight to DBV will have an impact on EK´s ZAG ops :D
09:03
Anonymous said…
Nice. It looks like Dubrovnik will be getting those flights and they will beat QR to it :)
09:04
Anonymous said…
Great to hear about possible route swaps between EK and FZ. This is perfect because some ex-Yu cities could definitely sustain Emirates during the summer. I also think Fly dubai is a good solution for ZAG during the winter.
09:06
Anonymous said…
Well, truth be told we were told by ZAG fanboys how EK can rely on OU network to the coast, so...
09:08
Anonymous said…
I'm still dumbfounded that there are nonstop flights between Tivat and Dubai. Good on them. Nice to see they are luring passengers from Albania too
09:09
Anonymous said…
Could we see them add frequencies to the destinations they already serve in the region?
09:09
Anonymous said…
Based on your knowledge of what?
09:10
Anonymous said…
I ostaje cijelogodisnja...
09:10
Anonymous said…
They are adding frequnecies to Belgrade (+3), Skopje (+1) and Sarajevo (+1) this winter season.
09:12
Anonymous said…
what is your problem? OU and EK have an interline, and therefore EK can sell onto flights to the coast.
09:12
Anonymous said…
must say new business class seats look amazing for a hybrid/low cost airline. They are lie flat. And from their seat map I see they will have 2-2 seats in first row, then 1-1 in second and 2-2 in third.
09:13
Alen Šćuric Purger said…
DBV and TIV have no sense in same time, like TZL and SJJ. Much better option is DBV + TGD or SPU + TIV.
09:15
Anonymous said…
i agree- its actually a better business class seat than what some legacy carriers have.
09:16
Anonymous said…
+1

Odd layout but I do agree they look good.
09:17
Anonymous said…
"I also think Fly dubai is a good solution for ZAG during the winter" : what knowledge/ facts let you come to this conclusion?
09:18
Anonymous said…
There are rumours FlyDubai will order Dreamliners during this airshow or maybe early next year. So who knows what they might send to the region in the future. The airline is developing really well.
09:21
Anonymous said…
Because loads are much softer during the winter with mostly transfer passengers from Croatia (exception Christams/New Year 2 week period which could even go back to daily). That is why flights are now 5 per week and might be 4 in February. But from middle of March until end of October B777 for ZAG is no problem. By next winter they will probably develop the market and improve loads in winter and there will be no need to swap at all. My sugesstion would have worked for this winter with near 100% LF on B737 :) but they just started partnership.
09:26
Anonymous said…
Totalno neutemeljeno i bez razloga.
DBV može sam dobro puniti mašine na ovoj liniji, što će im TGD?
09:26
Anonymous said…
OS has the same layout on their longhaul planes
09:26
Anonymous said…
It is great to see them so proactive in this region. I think they have been a good example of an airline that did its homework the best in this market and have been very flexible to adjust frequencies.
09:28
Anonymous said…
Exactly my thoughts, particularly after having read that they are in talks to several airports on the Croatian coast. It could mean that SPU summer seasonal + TIV summer seasonal + TGD winter seasonal is a likely option.
09:29
Anonymous said…
Will have my very first experience with FZ this December to DXB.
Reason to be looking forward 2 this: try something new
Reason not to be looking forward to it: FZ has very bad reviews on Skytrax
09:30
Anonymous said…
They are nice but I assume prices will go up too.
09:31
Anonymous said…
I have flown with them BEG-DXB-BEG twice in last year, once business once economy. Business is like any full fare airline. Full meal, glasswear, nice big TV screen etc. Econony is not bad either but I suggest you pre order in flight entertainment and a meal if you are going on a longer flight. It's not expensive at all and both are good quality.
09:35
Anonymous said…
I am just waiting to read that EK in ZAG will now fail because FZ will start Ljubljana and Dubrovnik. 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5,... lol
09:35
Anonymous said…
it would be great seeing them flying to LJU.
09:37
Anonymous said…
I don't find these sort of comments like you and the first anon very funny. They are not very constructive and bring nothing to the discussion. You only provoke potential trolls.
09:40
Anonymous said…
The only airline it could have an impact if they start DBV is Turkish Airlines. Actually, impact is the wrong word, they will just be competing for the same type of passengers.
09:42
Anonymous said…
Because that is the point of his comment. To provoke a like minded individual from the opposite side of the border so they can then have a massive argument which will end up in comparing d*ck sizes.
09:44
Anonymous said…
I hope so finally nonstop Ljubljana-Dubai!!!
09:46
Anonymous said…
3 daily to Sarajevo in summer :O wow
09:48
Anonymous said…
I don't think so. They say new routes will be seasonal so I think expansion will be limited to the Croatian coast.
09:50
Anonymous said…
Maybe they will start Tirana. I'm surprised no Mid east airline flies there.
09:51
Anonymous said…
Thanks for the info.
I will also try their business class on my second flight with them in Feb- it was cool that i could book separate classes on my return trip - i will be flying economy one way and return in business.
09:52
Anonymous said…
That's more then 1 full B777 each day.
09:53
Anonymous said…
Read the text, it says that LJU is being considered.
09:53
Anonymous said…
A friend of mine flew with them a few days ago to Sri Lanka via DXB and said that the economy class product was underwhelming, especially the crew.

Btw flights to/from BEG were packed to the last seat. They seem to be making a killing in Belgrade, even after adding more flights.
09:55
Anonymous said…
They increased Bucharest to double daily. I don't think there is still a route in ex-Yu that could sustain that much traffic to Dubai but it's possible in the future.
09:55
Anonymous said…
BEG is full even after they added more flights this winter. Maybe they will increase it to 9 in summer. An early morning arrival or a late night departure from Belgrade could work.

I think Jat's flight to DXB used to depart at 21.25.
09:57
Anonymous said…
Yes I did read but I assume the author asked if DBV, LJU are being considered and the responder said yes, we are introducing seasonal european routes to the *south* which may include some of those you mentioned.

Anyway I would be over the moon if they start LJU.
09:58
Anonymous said…
Anon 09.12

From your tone I can see you are the one with the problem. All I am saying is that some months ago we heard how OU's coastal network will help feed EK's flight.
So now you claim FZ's flight to DBV won't impact EK in ZAG. If it doesn't then it means there were no transfer passengers to begin with.
09:58
Anonymous said…
Bad news for EY.
10:03
Anonymous said…
Yes JU flights to DXB left BEG in the evening and arrived in the morning in DXB to connect to EK's Australia wave. It was also perfect timing for passengers going from Australia since the plane could do a quick turn around. The only downside was lousy service and the stop in Beirut or Larnaca. After a 14 hour flight from Melbourne going into Jat Airways B737 was like going from day to night, especially back then when EK had good crew and service.
10:04
Anonymous said…
Sedista su grozna. I u ekonoskom ropstvu i u biznis klas.
10:05
Anonymous said…
I don't see how this has anything to do with Etihad since the only ex-Yu route they fly to is Belgrade.
10:06
Anonymous said…
Ljubljana Airport did hold talks with Fly dubai. There was an article here recently. Also Slovenian minister was in UAE recently and again held talks about direct line.
10:08
Anonymous said…
@9.52
Hope you have a good trip. The crew was much more attentive on the DXB-BEG flight which I understand because it's their first sector.

@9.55
I guess it depends from flight to flight. I think the product meets the price you pay for these flights.
10:11
Anonymous said…
I hope they visit some ex-Yu city with the max, at least for promo purpose :))
10:13
Anonymous said…
Sarajevo could easily handle EK B777 during the summer.
10:14
Anonymous said…
flydubai will consider LJU because they want to get there before Qatar.
For the love of God, QR just launched Adana. LJU should not be a problem.
10:14
Anonymous said…
I can hardly imagine the difference is that big. Coach is very similiar with most of the carriers. EK is (contrary to my expectations) no better than any other European carrier.
Their premium products however (plus the newly revealed first class) are a completely different story- i hope i will be able to enjoy it some day ;)
10:15
Anonymous said…
Anon 09.55

Absolutely, that's what my friend said. For a return ticket of €300 (it was a sale) the product was ok.
10:15
Anonymous said…
"In Zagreb we did not coordinate our suspension with Emirates. This was a coincidence."

This is what people have been saying here for a long time and that the route was in fact cancelled because of poor loads. This also shows that Flydubai and Emirates serve to different passengers because Emirates has been doing very well to ZAG. FZ did not have enough transfers at the time and they were still not working with Emirates.
10:17
Nemjee said…
The service Jat offered to Dubai was not that bad. Don't forget that the route was suspended before their service went downhill.

Initially, they served a hot meal right after take off but after a few months they changed it so to LCA it was a sandwich and after LCA a hot meal. I guess it was cheaper like this as they had less meals to serve.

On the return flight, a hot breakfast was served to LCA and then a sandwich to BEG.
10:19
Anonymous said…
Yes, but the numbers at airports grow, because the demand is stimulated by the introduction of new flights and their related marketing etc. Of course it can happen that once FZ starts flights to DBV, the numbers on OUs services to FRA go up and FZ flies empty because there is the EK service to ZAG, thus increasing DBV´s pax numbers. But this is unrealistic. In a monopoly passenger numbers will always stagnate. In most cases competition and the expansion of services leads to an increase of passenger numbers. So with the introduction both companies will do their utmost to stimulate demand by either price or marketing. prices might go down, but in the end the market will be bigger.
10:20
Anonymous said…
Believe me Jat in 2007 and Emirates in 2007 were not comparable. They were way downhill back then. A dirty all white aircraft parked next to shiny Emirates planes. I got yelled at by an old lady crew member because I asked for beer and she told me it was morning and that no one drinks beer in the morning. She did not take into account that I along with 90% of the passengers have already been flying for half a day and were on different time zone as well.

Upsides to those flights was food and it was the quickest way to get from Melbourne to Belgrade at the time.
10:27
Anonymous said…
*from Australia to Belgrade in general I wanted to say. Plane was always full and I took this routing a few times
10:29
Anonymous said…
Emirates will always have decent loads in summer, yields too probably. It's winter that's the problem.
10:30
Anonymous said…
Problem is that there is no O&D market between ZAG and DXB like there is between DXB and SJJ, BEG, TGD... that's why FZ failed there.
10:31
Anonymous said…
"I got yelled at by an old lady crew member because I asked for beer and she told me it was morning and that no one drinks beer in the morning."

Hahaha that is so Jat :D their crew before they all left when Air Serbia came around was priceless.
10:32
Anonymous said…
Dubrovnik is growing 20%
Zagreb is growing 10%
Combined that is some 740.000 new passengers in 2018 in those two cities

Now, 61.000 seats on DBX-DBV-DBX route (that is maximum capacity for inbound and outbound for all year x 3 pw) if it will be all year (not just seasonal) for sure is not a big impact. That is just fulfill of extra demand.

In summer you can have 100% LF what ever you open. Than there will be no impact at all. Winter is problem. But I have doubts that this route will be all year. Even so, with 2 pw during winter with 70% LF that is some 3.402 maximum capacity per month on flydubai, and that is also not a huge impact.
10:37
Anonymous said…
Thanks for the interesting article. I look forward to seeing more of flyDubai in ex-YU
10:38
Nemjee said…
I am also speaking from personal experience as I used to fly the LCA-BEG sector very often. Actually, I still remember boarding those flights which were always a total and absolute mess. Everyone would move around, passengers brought their own blankets, leftover snacks all over the cabin, crumbs on the floor...

Naturally no one is comparing the service on EK and Jat back then. All I am saying is that the one offered by JU was not as bad as it was later on, shortly before EY took over.

By the way, at that time Jat used to serve their chocolate covered plums that were handed out to the passengers once sandwiches were distributed. The overall service was quite ok. Nothing spectacular but not bad either.
10:38
Alen Šćuric Purger said…
Ne kažem ja da im treba TGD za to, nego da su prošle godine otvorili TIV koji su preselili zimi na TGD, a razmišljaju o vračanju na TIV po ljetu. To bi značilo da će istovremeno letjeti za TIV i DBV, a to je nonsens (aerodromi su na 60-tak km).

Dakle, ako se odluče za DBV onda bi bilo logično da ostanu letjeti na TGD, a ne vračati ljeti letove na TIV.

Ako se pak odluče letjeti na TIV (a ne na TGD) onda bi bilo logično da lete na SPU, umjesto na DBV.
10:44
Anonymous said…
I understand. I agree food was way above European avarage. At the time when I was using these flights they usually went via Kuwait or Beirut and we got one warm meal and one cold meal on the second leg, usually cold cuts. They also had a nice business class. I didn't fly it but those big black leather seats looked very comfy.
10:51
Anonymous said…
If FZ is doing OTP double daily it's a good indication of where Emirates will go next.
10:57
Nemjee said…
Yeah, those business class seats were great, especially on night flights when you had to sleep.
I think things really started to go south once DXB was suspended. It was the time when all started to go wrong.
10:57
Anonymous said…
+1
10:59
Anonymous said…
Yes, FZ and QR have narrow bodies, which are perfect for these markets.
11:00
Anonymous said…
The new codeshare with Emirates and the benifits EK passengers now have flying with FZ (free meals, baggage allowance) will boost FZ's numbers quite a bit.
11:02
Anonymous said…
The biggest boost will come as a result of Flydubai tickets being on sale on Emirates website.
11:04
Anonymous said…
My return itinerary:
CMB-DXB-SKP = eur. 450 in business.
I could hardly believe my eyes- if it's comparable to real business class, then its the best bargain ever- my guess is though its comparable to premium economy.

11:07
Anonymous said…
Belgrade was the first destination to get free meals, second in their network was Skopje. :)
11:09
Anonymous said…
Haha they also flew to CMB. Seems like it's the new hit destination among Serbs.
11:10
Anonymous said…
That is a great price! It's above premium economy at least on Dubai-Europe sectors. Don't forget to use the dedicated FZ business boarding lounge in Dubai. It's separated from the rest of the terminal which gets very busy and it is like a mini lounge with food and drinks, plus the bus picks you up to the plane straight from there.
11:14
Anonymous said…
Reading the comments today, I see people have had good experience flying them. I like that they gave this region some attention and are trying out routes like Podgorica and Tivat.
11:21
Anonymous said…
Sta su sve ljudi kadri izdurat za hranu dzaba
11:21
Anonymous said…
A sto hejtujes celo jutro? Vec si napisao glup komentar za danas.
11:23
Anonymous said…
Anyone know how they are doing on SJJ-TGD flights? Would be interesting to know if they are able to sell some tickets on this sector.
11:25
Anonymous said…
Also what are their fares like
11:28
Anonymous said…
I've flown ZAG-DXB-ADL before EK came to ZAG. The FZ->EK terminal transfer was horrible...waiting for a smelly old minibus in a room with nothing but a toilet...no thanks. I'd much prefer QR in Ljubljana, their transfer process is seamless.
11:35
Anonymous said…
Transfer from one terminal to another used to be a big problem but when they made the deal with Emirates they said how this has been resolved.
11:39
Anonymous said…
They could try Pristina same way they did Podgorica with a stop. Maybe via Skopje.
11:41
Anonymous said…
Nis via Ohrid with fifth freedom rights :D
11:52
Anonymous said…
I'm surprised there are no flights from UAE to Pristina.
11:53
Anonymous said…
+1
12:02
frishki said…
I was also waiting in that room for almost two hours to be transferred to the EK terminal. Awful.
12:13
Anonymous said…
A da odes na stranice i sam provjersis cijene ako te bas zanimaju.
12:29
Anonymous said…
Take a chill pill to calm your Balkan attitude.
12:30
Anonymous said…
For the love of God, you compare Adana (1.6mil) and Ljubljana (270k)!!!
12:42
Anonymous said…
Great news. Can't wait to see which routes they announce, not just in ex-Yu but in Eurooe in generalm
13:00
Anonymous said…
Well, Adana may have significant point to point demand, so a bit different catch than LJU. Besides, why underestimate Adana and overestimate LJU? On which grounds exactly?
13:02
Anonymous said…
maybe its too close to SKP, similar to Tuzla-SJJ.
13:06
Anonymous said…
Have fun in Dubai, Ex-Yu :D

Hope we get some gossip
13:08
Anonymous said…
well they wanted to route everything from the Balkans via BEG and AUH? Wasnt that the plan?
13:10
Anonymous said…
Yes Zagreb is the poorest of the capitals of ex-yu. Therefore no one goes to DXB. Just diaspora flying to Australia. Unlike the rich Serbs and Bosnians who fly to DXB on holidays.
13:18
Anonymous said…
Kada proveris gde idu iz BGD bice ti jasno da je tvoj sarkazam zapravao tacan.
13:37
frishki said…
For real dude? Show me the exact numbers by the nationality.
13:38
Anonymous said…
It still is. JU flies everyone from the ExYu region to BEG and from there EY flies to AUH.
These new developments will affect not only EY but JU also.
14:04
Anonymous said…
Frishki, funny how you ignored the anti-Serbian tirade yesterday yet you are here now asking for proof and statistics.
14:07
Anonymous said…
Why would EY want to have their IST and ATH traffic handled through BEG when they fly there directly?
14:08
Anonymous said…
Wasn't the mantra on here that no one from the region would step foot on an Air Serbia plane and that they are constantly flying empty around the region?
14:08
Anonymous said…
Wealth!! LJU is miles ahead of Adana and we travel much more to east and our catchment area is massive.
14:09
frishki said…
Oh, I see I have a fan.
Am I supposed to fight everyone's battle? If you like to call them "anti-Serbian tirade", make no mistake, there's just as many "anti-Croatian tirades" on here and plenty of those that can lead those battles.
14:16
Anonymous said…
LJU, Slovenia and massive hardly goes into one sentence :)
Joking aside, again, don't underestimate Adana and do not overestimate Ljubljana. Hell, even partly low cost carrier is obviously thinking a lot whether to come and that is on seasonal basis....don't jump the gun which realistically doesn't have too many bullets in it.
14:24
Anonymous said…
Yes but yesterday's one was pretty bad so you should have reacted bruh.
14:28
frishki said…
I didn't have to do anything. Do you react when it's other way around?
14:30
Anonymous said…
I have friends who have relatives who live in Australia and i asked them how they travel to Macedonia in summer and they told me the last time they visited it was through AUH and BEG.
So, that is not the mantra ;)
14:51
Anonymous said…
@anon 2.08 who talks about IST and ATH??? mixing apples with ....

having one stop possibilities from most of ex-yu bg cities is surely not ideal for EY
15:02
Anonymous said…
@anon 2.04 nobody talks here for AUH as final destination, we are talking about two way stop from ex-yu to Asia and Australia. AUH is not so popular as a tourist destinations
15:05
Anonymous said…
Yes, you could have seen my posts, it writes Anonymous. :)

I waited for you but there was no reply. I was a bit disappointed, I like reading your comments.
15:52
Anonymous said…
Anon 03.02

Well they wrote the Balkans and both ATH and IStT are there. :/
15:54
Anonymous said…
Adana is something like SPU or DBV, busy in summer, horribly empty in winter. That's why QR is flying there seasonally. LJU is much better as it's whole year market.
15:55
frishki said…
Well, in that case...

:hold-my-beer:
15:55
Anonymous said…
For your information, Adana is year round destination as filed in GDS. Please check your facts before underestimating it (again). LJU is so big and wealthy that so many airlines avoid it cause they're stupid or what? :)
16:15
Anonymous said…
I'll hold it... but I doubt I'll give it back. Beer is beer.
16:19
Anonymous said…
Well QR flies there because it has extra planes because of the ban. Everyone knows that. ;)

ZAG is too close to LJU, that's why many airlines have not arrived yet
17:37
Anonymous said…
@AnonymousNovember 14, 2017 at 9:03 AM


More visitors ????

You do understand, Emirates has 90-95% LF on Zagreb flights ???

And the service just started!
Imagine 3-4 years down the line when service is well established and numbers go up even further.

FlyDubai is just of many carriers that service Croatia, every new carrier will have some impact on other carrier, as Emirates did on Lufthansa and Croatian Airlines, as Iberia did on Lufthansa and BA, when you have more options you choose one that is most convenient.


17:48
Anonymous said…
@AnonymousNovember 14, 2017 at 1:37 PM

Serbia powerful !!!

LOL

Not sarcasm, more of irony and self delusion on your part.
17:53
Anonymous said…
You increase their load factor every month or so. Last month you were saying they had excellent loads of 80-85%. My guess is that you don't know their loads at all.
17:53
Anonymous said…
Then why ZAG and not LJU...why Adana and still not LJU....
18:05
Anonymous said…
Basically why anything and still no LJU, ahahahah
18:06
Anonymous said…
Da samo znas koliko ima ljudi koji idu na safarije u Keniju i na plivanje po Madagaskaru manje bi se kezecio.
18:13
Anonymous said…
Kezecio...hahahaha
18:33
Anonymous said…
You guys seem to forget that despite INI and TZL, BEG keeps on booming and soon it will have three longhaul routes.
19:40
Anonymous said…
for the time being Madagascar should be avoided - there is a plague outbreak
19:59
Anonymous said…
@AnonymousNovember 14, 2017 at 5:53 PM

To Zagreb LF is 90-95%, return to Dubai LF is 75-80%, an average is 85%.
20:52
JATBEGMEL said…
Current EK loads to ZAG are not that amazing, premium cabins quite empty. Recently, there have been flights where even a B737 would have seats available.

Overall, I dont think ZAG has been a bad route for EK. I could see FZ launching SPU as this is where EK see alot of connections heading to from the ZAG flight. OU's flight to SJJ strangely enough has a number of pax from the EK flight, considering the double daily FZ flights to SJJ.
21:13
Anonymous said…
Zašto toliko prepucavanja izmedju LJU i ZAG? Svima sve najbolje može?
22:01
Anonymous said…
Those screens in the new economy cabin are huge! Good work Fly Dubai.
22:09
Anonymous said…
Yes, so many swimmers in Madagascar from Serbia that there is 3 flights per week from Belgrade to Madagascar.
22:48
Anonymous said…
Holy cow that's like more than 1000 passengers between SJJ and DXB every day, crazy
23:26
Anonymous said…
No but both QR and FZ increased flights so that they can carry more swimmers to Madagascar.
23:42
Anonymous said…
Thanks for the info friend. I do wonder how QR's loads are if EK.isn't doing as great. No wonder they are considering 4 flights in February.
23:46
Anonymous said…
QR doesnt serve Madagscar :)
04:24
Anonymous said…
Ma prepucavaju se Ljubljana i Adana! :)
04:26
Anonymous said…
Samo preko LOTa i Air Sejsela znate partnera Etihada gomilo ogranicenih siromasnih ludaka koji letite sa LCC kompanijama i nikada niste ni pomislili da letite na mauricijus preko madagaskara ili da npr obidjete Tanzaniju i Malavi.
06:43
frishki said…
Such a surprise that the LF aren't that amazing in the middle of November. Next to the February, November is the slowest month of the year.
07:20
Anonymous said…
hahahah evo ga ovaj ostrasceni sto prezire LCC... covece, oladi.
07:27
Anonymous said…
ZAG feels leftout from the fight. :D
07:28
Anonymous said…
Frishki, his comment was related to the nonsensical one above where the poster claimed flights are full.
Also, I am sorry but a few months ago when predictions were made they were relying on a LF of some 75% to 80%.
07:30
frishki said…
Does anyone have real numbers or they are all based on rekla-kazala?
07:33
Anonymous said…
JATBEGMEL used to provide us with real info until one of your compatriots started to attack him on here.
08:12
frishki said…
First, I don't have any "compatriots" on here. Second, there are "attackers" at both end, so please don't even try to play the victim.
I asked for the exact numbers, not how much someone is credible.
08:31
Anonymous said…
Sure you do, your fellow Croat who always posts his projections started to attack him just because he didn't like them.

Also, like I said, JATBEGMEL is a credible source so if he says that loads are not as great then there are more than enough reasons to believe him.

Also, no one is playing the victim so stop barking.
08:52
frishki said…
As much as I do, so do you, hon.
Also, I could be posting numbers left and right and say "they are credible". Proof? Because I say so.
Also, you seem to be very concerned about ZAG numbers. How so?
08:56
JATBEGMEL said…
^^^

I wouldnt worry too much on QR as they are more flexible with their fleet, just as we saw the other day when QR sent the A333 to BEG.

We also need to take into consideration that QR has been much longer in ZAG compared to EK. Summer loads for EK were excellent, in all cabins might I add. If we compare BUD for example, they intially had a 2 class A332 (a smaller business cabin with more economy seats) where as ZAG went straight into a B77W in both 3 class (F, J and Y) as well as a 2 class (J and Y) appearing when Y loads demanded for it. To compare, I would say that loads for BUD are similar to ZAG currently. However, EK competes with Wizz who fly to DWC.

What will definately affect the ZAG loads is if FZ decide to launch LJU. As for the frequencies, EK do tend to drop frequencies temporarily on numerous destinations when demand is lighter, airlineroutes had a whole list for last winter.
12:48
Anonymous said…
Za preći tih 60-ak km treba više vremena nego za doći iz Zagreba do Splita autom a tu je i pitanje granica EU. Jedini nonsens je tvoj komentar.
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