Load factor is still very low, especially considering they have a low density fleet.

When will the 2017 financial results be published for Adria?? It's September tomorrow and still nothing!

There is a rumour that JP will take Skywork saabs.

+1
Everyone has published theirs. Croatia Airlines, Air Serbia, even Montenegro Airlines. Comeon Adria!

How bad are things if they are constantly apologizing about late flights, cancellations and operational issues?

Nice if it happens. SkyWork has 6 Saabs.

Bad. Hopefully will get better when the Saabs start joining from tomorrow.

Any chance for a surprise new winter route like we had Kiev last year?

I remember that last year they published it at the end of August. Hopefully soon.

Isn't there some sort of law in Slovenia when companies must publish their results for the previous year?

That would mean 28 planes for Adria in total right? Crazy.

Plus they said they are adding 3 CRJ900s next year.

Does Adria still have a Swiss AOC through Adria Switzerland? If they do they could easily replace Skywork, especially with all those extra Saabs sitting around.

So how many passengers can we expect by the end of the year?

People were saying maybe LED.

So that's why they are hiring all those extra pilots.

Adria is a 100% private company. They can publish the results whenever they want.

They will post profit for 2017.

Impressive growth strategy in my opinion. Think Adria is definitely in a better place than it was 2-3 years ago.

I think their focus will be on PAD this winter and sustaining the new routes out of LJU.

But not as big as last year.

Agree. I have a lot of criticism concerning the operational issues this summer but I think they definitely have a clearer strategy then when they were state owned.

They have to publish the financial report until end of business today, so it should be published online in about 10 days.

Honestly I don't see a clear strategy. What are they? Transfer airline, ACMI provider, P2P carrier...

Ok thanks, looking forward to seeing how they performed.

Adria is becoming much more competitive then before

They don't.

They need to to do something about the lack of pilots quickly. Otherwise it will limit their future growth plans.

What was the profit in 2016?

Still the good old headless chicken as it was in the past, just that they are trying to do everything at once.

When will airline executives stop explaining their bad performance by using pathetic phrases like "a number of factors that influenced the entire aviation industry as well as individual airlines" and "specific conditions and global dynamics that require constant adjustments".

It's 2018. Accept this aviation reality and make it work if you can. If not, go pick strawberries or something...

€3.2 million.

Can anyone explain why the July growth at Ljubljana was very low. Is it related to Adria? I don't get it since Adria introduced so many new routes.

Adria had a tradition of being well trusted until this year when so many flights are cancelled, delayed, operated by other carriers and crew...

With the help of some creative accounting.

Adria cancelled a lot of flights because of crew shortage.

I'm very interested in their financial results for last year. I don't think there was much to sell so we should get a clear picture of how healthy the business is. I hope the results were positive.

They are not losing as much money as they did before which is a good thing. These guys have managed to turn the airline around. That's why they were brought in after all.

JP please return to MBX!

The biggest winner this year will be LJU. I an still hoping for twi million.

1.2/1.3 million my guess.

As a matter of fact, Adria is already ahead of OU in terms of fleet and more year round destinations.
Should the bankrupt SkyWork Saabs be bought, Adria will become the biggest regional airline in the Balkans.

I think Adria has done really well this year. They increased frequencies and fleet size which increased passenger numbers. They have launched new routes which is great as well.

What do you expect these newbies to say? "-We thought it was easy to run an airline, but we messed everything up, tried to grow ostensibly so that we can sell the company to some other stupid investors or someone for money laundry operations but even couldn't manage to do that, operational problems rise everywhere, costs are growing soo much higher than the revenues that we don't know what the hell to do?"

Specific conditions, global dynamics, challenging environment, growing competition, constant adjustments... These sound fancier than what I wrote above of course :)

Sa 63 % LF mogu samo da stave katanac ako ih Lufthanza ne uzme uskoro.

JP is not making profit. And there is a criminal investigation going on in Switzerland.

Wet leasing their equipment to other airlines probably brings in nice money as well and they have done that successfully for two years now.

Mislim da ni ostale kompanije u ex-Yu nisu mnogo bolje.

You never know, but LJU will overpass SKP in November and December for sure due because SKP is facing service and aircraft reductions.
The same applies for the first 3 months of 2019.
LJU will have more flights to London and the new routes will be included in the statistics.
2 million will be easily achievable.

Carpatair v2. 0 in the making LOL

They had a profit in 2016. Yes it's true it's achieved by selling planes and brand names but this is legitimate practice around the world. I have a feeling the 2017 results will be good as well.

Even JU does well there with more flights than to SJJ, ZAG or SKP.

Their actual result in 2016 was 4.7 million euro loss.

Not gonna happen.

Very true. I fear in the end they will become an ACMI airline.

Maribor does not need them. They will have Xian soon!

Adria has faced many obstacles but its solid position and excellent managers helped it to destroy all the biggest problems. With the arrival of the new birds, it will be able to organise itself and become more punctual. Star Alliance needs Adria and Adria needs Star Alliance to feed Lufthansa.
Prishtina and Tirana remain one of the most important markets.

Good luck Adria. As an outsider, I think 4K has done an ok job with the company so far. Remember they were on the brink of bankruptcy when they took over.

I'm sure.

What about the new routes? Any suspensions? How they are performing?

ErSrbija i Kroacia imaju preko 70% LF sto je takodje nedovoljno a sa 63% nemaju cemu da se nadaju.Bilo je reci da su ih Nemci preuzeli da ih naprave profitabilnim pa da ih onda prodaju Lufthanzi ali od toga izgleda nema nista.Pre ce biti bankrot.

I'm glad they are getting their act together. I think competition at LJU will become bigger and bigger now. The management there is trying to attract new airlines so Adria will have to deal with this too.

For this winter at the moment it looks like no new routes from Ljubljana but all new routes are sustained (except the seasonal Dubrovnik and Brac).

They are launching 3 routes from Paderborn which has been announced.

Is it known which routes out of Ljubljana will be operated with SAAB. Or will they randomly assign every day based on booking numbers?

If they take those 6 saabs they will become one of the largest Saab operators in the world.

From their newest destinations, Sofia is surprisingly doing really good but nobody knows why. I think it's pure O&D or business traffic rather than transit. Although on Skyscanner JP offers very good prices and connections via LJU to Europe and back.

The Saabs give them a lot of flexibility and he ability to test out new markets with little risk. I hope we see some new interesting routes next summer.

Can the Saab make it between Ljubljana and Athens?

For beginners, just randomly. We will see later if there will be Saab specific routes.

Good to hear about Sofia. Wouldn't have expected that. Maybe Bucharest could work too.

With an investigation over the head in Switzerland, I'm not so sure they will be running back to that market.

Their reputation is really taking a beating. So many flights are being rescheduled, delayed, cancelled.

For comparison:

SAS Scandinavian Airlines (SK, Copenhagen Kastrup) cancelled around 700 flights during the last three months, around 1% of all scheduled services, partially as a result of a pilots' shortage at its ACMI provider CityJet (WX, Dublin Int'l), the Irish Times has reported.

"We do not have a problem recruiting crews and have a steady flow of pilots joining the airline. However, in common with most regional airlines, we are also experiencing crews moving to other airlines to fly on larger aircraft, creating a temporary shortfall," a CityJet spokesperson said.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/69422-sas-cuts-flights-due-to-staffing-at-acmi-partner-cityjet

The company is barely able to cope with its current schedule and the flight punctuality sucks so I don't think we will see any new routes if they promise to deliver on "more stability" like they said.

Where are the Saabs serviced? I doubt Adria Tehnika has the license to work on Saabs.

I don't understand how they were so unprepared for this expansion?

Inexperienced management.

Having in mind Adria's finances from a few years ago this is going in the right direction.

Looking at that pic I'm in love with the Adria uniform. So stylish.

Any info how Geneva is doing?

@9.21

Paderborn is being launched because they probably got subsidies to fly routes out of there. Same as they used to in Lodz. But a warning to Paderborn - they pack up and leave afterwards.

Geneva is not that good, maybe they started Geneva becuse of darwin sloths

double LOL

We are talking about an airline which is 57 years old. I am so proud of my Adria.

+1

I certainly hope for MORE STABILITY. They cancelled my flight not once but twice this year and they were 3 months apart. Not flying with them for some time now until they clean things up.

Any hint at how Ljubljana will perform in August? Anyone know?

Or another CRJ user Nordica's marketing and communications director Toomas Uibo:

"We would of course want the flying composition buffer of employees to be greater," he explained. "Work has been done here all the time in the name of this, but the company is growing slightly faster than we are able to recruit people."

According to Uibo, it is namely the 30-40 people currently undergoing training that the company lacks. The employees in training should be ready to enter service in a few months, however.

"All air carriers have workforce problems today," he said. "We are not alone in that sense, and many airlines unfortunately cancel flights for similar reasons."

https://news.err.ee/848532/nordica-forced-to-cancel-flights-over-weekend-as-many-employees-fall-ill

They removed Geneva flights from their winter timetable.

A lot better then in july

Probably a contracted maintenance company. Contrary to the some people's opinion here, you don't need a hangar with full base maintenance capability at every airport you operate from.

All it takes for line maintenance is a certified engineer, a toolbox and a small parts storage for lubricants, tires and other consumables. And for heavy maintenance, you just ferry the aircraft to the maintenance facility.

Legitimate practice around the world... Serious business publish profits/losses before any major sell of assets as well as after. Not the case here obviously.

They need to pay more money, but since they are most likely making loss already, that's going to be tough.

I just checked their timetable and Bucharest will be decreased from 4 to 3, which is a really big surprise given the population of Bucharest to be almost 2 million and the market.

LJU-SOF remains unchanged 3 weekly - service upgraded to CR9 during the month of September and a mix of CR7 and CR9 in October. I won't be surprised if they increase this route next year. S200 for the moment to be deployed in winter timetable.
LJU-GVA remains unchanged 3 weekly, now they have a code-share with LX on LJU-GVA route which is a smart move indeed to make connections via GVA.
LJU-HAM 3 weekly unchanged
LJU-DBV seasonal
LJU-BWK seasonal

https://www.exyuaviation.com/2017/11/adria-eyes-balkans-west-europe-for.html

MBX has capacity problems, VLM has taken all the slots for the A320s/A330s.

guess what? they are not in the game to maximize that;

with their PAD flights 60% would be the unlikely best case; they will be happy with anything close to 45%;

and if they finally come to Belp, they will not aim much higher than 45%... and it looks like that they are considering more such destinations with characteristics as PAD and BRN in the very near future (and they finally have its operations ready to do that without losing money)

Nemjee if you are back
Any numbers for adria routes?

It is not Adria who is under investigation. Also the people who were around that time are not around any more.

Actually, JU has more flights to SKP (13 weekly) than to LJU (12 weekly).

@Anonymous31 August 2018 at 09:05

Air Serbia posts their financial result once in a blue moon.

They posted their financial results for last year months ago.

@"Anonymous31 August 2018 at 09:41
The biggest winner this year will be LJU. I an still hoping for two million."@


Unlikely, 1.8 million is current projection. Perhaps 1.85 million but this is like really if unexpected growth happens in remaining 4 months of the year.

For MBX it would be the best FR to return

who on Earth is flying LJU SOF?

Not difficult to be ahead of OU

Lipican aer on LJU has certification for servicing saabs

People. Men. Women. Children. Infants. Passengers. Travelers. Tourists. Visitors. Guests.

Their Skyshop Katalog is not bad really. Water 2,5€ is maybe a bit too much. After all, JU provides it gratis:

https://www.adria.si/assets/Uploads/Skyshop-katalog-small2.pdf

This route was supposed to be launched back in March 2009 but because of the crisis it never took place:

https://www.exyuaviation.com/2009/03/adria-cancels-new-service.html

I assisted personally when Adria representatives visited Sofia. Service was supposed to be launched using the CR2:

http://tesdfdfd.blogspot.com/2009/01/adria-ljubljana-sofia.html

Water is gratis also on JP and they still have full service on LJU-SVO route.

Only for Saab 340, but not for 2000.

And on route to TLV and MAN

No space for FR. With so many A320 and A330 on apron.

Ah nice, lucky Israelis and Russians :) Also this is most likely because it's considered medium-range route.

The passengers are very satisfied with comfort and service of the Adria Fokker 100 fleet( aircraft registration YR-FKB)from Munich to Ljubljana.

Adria is a good airline. It just receives all those negative reviews for nothing.
It has a 3,5/5 ranking on Tripadvisor which really is not bad:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Airline_Review-d8728984-Reviews-Adria-Airways

OU score: 3,5/5 too

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Airline_Review-d8729057-Reviews-Croatia-Airlines

JU score: 3,5/ 5 too

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Airline_Review-d8729096-Reviews-Air-Serbia

YM score: 3/5 still not bad

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Airline_Review-d8729120-Reviews-Montenegro-Airlines

Hhehe nothing compares to SUPER Aegean 4,5/5 !!

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Airline_Review-d8728985-Reviews-Aegean-Airlines

How is LJU-KBP doing?

I find the Adria comments generally nice. You have 1-2 angry comments but if you take a closer look and read the comments, it says nice things about Adria:

This Canadian guy flying CDG-LJU made a very nice comment:

“Great service”
Reviewed 2 weeks ago via mobile
We had great experience with Adria airways. The flight and service was amazing. They waited for us as the plane was late from Paris. Also they made sure that we were comfortable with everything. Great suprise when the plane waited for our luggage as the time was only 10 min between flights due to delay from Paris. Thank you Adria Airways we will be back.

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And this American guy sure left a very touching comment about Adria. Really, nice:


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This flight left 1 hour late, but the pilot explained that Zurich was experiencing high cross-winds which left some runways inoperable. They advised anyone who had connections to make to let the flight attendants know. Then they served chocolates. During the flight they also served snacks & drinks & chocolate again when we had to circle the airport for 20 minutes. The pilot announced that all passengers would make their connections & announced the gates for connecting flights for each passenger on our flight. When we landed I could feel the pilot fighting the heavy winds...but it was still a smoother landing than the Air Canada one in Toronto. In the shuttle from the plane to the building, the connecting flight information was shown on a screen. Delays are expected when traveling, but it's nice to know what's going on and what to expect and Adria handled all delays very efficiently and with a high level of guest service.

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VLM announced bankruptcy today (again). That's it about the chinese investors.

https://pr.flyvlm.com/shs-antwerp-aviation-vlm-goes-into-liquidation#

They have lost all my confidence since i was stuck in Bucharest for 24 hours. They cancelled flight to Ljubljana and they booked me flight via Vienna but then cancelled even that flights. So two flights in a row. I hope they know what their agenda is in next years otherwise...bye bye Adria.

Really well :) flights are always almost full :) yesterday pax 69 on lju kbp route

Etihad style management statements. JP cannot open a base in Switzerland. First it needs an AOC or do it for LX. On the top the company has bad reputation in Switzerland, so I doubt they're able to recover it with this management. It would be a time for all the experts to realize that BER is very limited and dully risky market to enter.

koliko LF nema veze sa tim koliko je airline uspijesan imas primjer Kroacije, koja ima atomsku exploziju na marketu, solidan LF, a vidimo na sto firma lici.

Absolutely great job on the blow, putting wallpaper 'n it and trying to sell it.

Šnajder priča iste gluposti koje je pričao za vremena Darwina i prije u LH Italy. Zna se gdije su završili i kakvi su bili ekonomski rezultati.

My Austrian Airline flight will be operated by Adria Airway from Bucharest to Vienna. Unfortunately I haven't read so much nice about the Adria Airways' punctuality - are they wrong?

They are a good airline. They have been around for almost 60 years.Their fleet os quite modern and many crew know German as well. No need to worry :)

Thank you! I have a connecting flight from Vienna, so I started to worry a little bit to much after having read many bad time schedule reviews. :-) Now I do not have to buy a new flight ticket - thanks to you!