Ryanair launching Dubrovnik and Split flights


Europe's busiest airline, Ryanair, will commence flights to Croatia's two largest coastal airports following years of talks. The low cost carrier will introduce four weekly flights from Dublin to Dubrovnik and Split next summer season. The airline said, "Ryanair is pleased to announce another two new summer routes from Dublin to Dubrovnik and Split, our newest airports, which will operate from June, as part of our expanded Dublin 2019 summer schedule". The carrier has avoided the two due to high costs but has been attempting to launch flights to both Dubrovnik and Split for several years. Recently, the carrier also confirmed it had entered talks with the Croatian government over potential services to Zagreb.

Dublin Airport's General Manager, Vincent Harrison, noted, "We are delighted to see Ryanair expand its route network further with the addition of Dubrovnik and Split to its schedule next year. These beautiful Croatian cities are full of culture and history and I have no doubt they will be hugely popular destinations. We will work close with Ryanair’s management team to promote its new services”. The low cost airline will compete directly against Aer Lingus on the two routes. During the 2018 summer season, the Irish national carrier maintained daily flights between Dublin and Dubrovnik, and three weekly services to Split.

The General Manager of Dubrovnik Airport, Frano Luetić, recently told EX-YU Aviation News, "We have been in talks with Ryanair for over a decade, however, our stance remains unchanged. Ryanair is more than welcome in Dubrovnik but under the same conditions as the other sixty airlines operating here. We are strong and united in this regard, hence, we would not want to destroy the excellent relations we have with other carriers in order to post big numbers". Last year, Ryanair requested for Dubrovnik Airport to reduce its fees and sign a multi-year contract prior to it starting operations. The airline's Route Development Manager said at the time that the budget carrier would maintain year-round flights from Dubrovnik, describing it as an extremely interesting destination.

Similarly, Split Airport has previously said it cannot reduce its fees to accommodate Ryanair. General Manager, Lukša Novak, noted, "In Croatia, they [Ryanair] still operate exclusively from airports which provide support for their flights. We have held meetings with them and established contacts, however, for now, they will not come to Split as we have not changed our policy. Neither Split, nor Dubrovnik, need to stimulate carriers during the season as traffic continues to grow. That would only create a mess on the market. We are always open for talks, but we do not intend on changing our business policy". Ryanair is Croatia's fifth biggest carrier based on the number of weekly departing seats. It operates flights to the country exclusively during the summer and maintains services from Croatia to over twenty destinations. The airline has already announced a number of new routes to Zadar for next year.

Flight details for the new Dublin - Dubrovnik flights can be found here, while further information for the Split service can be viewed here.

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  1. So the question is, did they get the discounts in the end?

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    1. Most likely otherwise they would have walked away like they usually do.

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    2. They did not get any subsidies. The point is that both SPU and DBV will have much larger capacities next year. FR gets many new planes that they will have to fly somewhere in the end. Looking at their prices for the new routes you see that they wont need any subsidies for these routes ;)

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    3. Are these routes seasonal or year-round? If seasonal certainly FR won't get a cent. If year-round likely they'd get at least something for (a part of) winter otgetwise i fear they eouldnt be flying during the deadest parts of the dead season such as Nov and Jan, Feb.

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    4. Well in the text, FR says "summer routes".

      But they do run until the end of the summer season. Winter 2019/2020 obviously not on sale yet.

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    5. They don't have to get cash in order to get subsidies, they can get discounted airport charges if they can bring a certain amount of passengers. I am sure they will announce more routes in the coming months.

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  2. Great, with the success that will be imminent, FR will expand and we can expect both SPU and DBV to handle more than 4 million Passengers within the next two years.

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    1. What is great about bringing millions to Dubrovnik?

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    2. Well not all will stay in DBV, but it is great for employment, tourism and thus the economy. Of course then tere are downsides to this.

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    3. DBV is doing a superb job but if you look closely to the PRN developments, I am afraid that DBV will lag behind after holding 3rd position for a very long time now.

      More long hauls are needed and not only AA.

      DBV must contact DY to check the possibility of of launching more US flights to the West Coast, Texas and possibly Boston.

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    4. Problem in Dubrovnik are not tourists that come by plane and actually spend money there but tourists that come on cruise ships and overcrowd the whole city hardly bringing anything for the economy just using space, architectural heritage, infrastructure practically for free.

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    5. Is Dubrovnik now the most expensive city in Croatia?

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    6. They can afford to be because their main customers are much wealthier than the average.

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    7. Haha @10:33, just like ZAG needs only legacies because their main customers are much wealthier than the average.

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  3. Bad news for both Aer Lingus and Croatia Airlines.

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  4. Great news. Hopefully they will extend these flights into winter.

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    1. Ako su im izasli u susret snizavanjem cijena, a to isto nisu uvjetovali year around.....onda su za onu stvar

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    2. Hope so to. To me it's crazy that they don't have a single non-seasonal route to Croatia.

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    3. Doubt they will be extending anything in Croatia. If easyjet with much more routes and passengers to Croatia hasn't, neither will Ryanair.

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  5. Dobro, tko je na kraju popustio?
    Sta kazu insajderi?

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    1. Knowing FR otvwastge airports. Why would they launch SPU without incentives when they have ZAD.

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    2. Dobro pitanje.
      No, cemu skidati gace kad nisi primoran???

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    3. To moras pitat SPU.

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    4. Hahah, that was a good one. Because SPU and DBV are huge markets. Croatia will have over 14 million yearly passengers next year.

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    5. Ne pricaj gluposti. SPU i DBV su sezonci.....ako su im dali popust kakav samo za sezonu, onda su za onu stvar.

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    6. @9:06: Because no one knows Zadar outside of ex-yu (there is quite a small limit of people who want to travel to an unknown region), but Split and Dubrovnik are known at least throughout whole Europe, if not worldfamous. And have been known for decades. So many stars in Hollywood are spending some time per year on Crotian islands, some even own property there, that is all in central or southern Dalmatia or on the mainland down there, as to my knowledge.
      Additionally, if i can chose where to go in Croatia on the sea, it would not be Zadar or immediate vicinity of it.

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    7. Ryanair strategy changes as well. In the past they flew to Hahn instead of FRA, to Kaunas instad of Vilnius and so on. Now they are going after the bigger markets in Croatia while at the same time expanding in the smaller like ZAD or PUY. If you vacation in Croatia in the SPU area and have not heard about ZAD, ok. But ZAD is also very famous, unfortunately it has only 5 hotels and that hinders it in developing like SPU and DBV. Unfortunately only few tourists want to spend their holidays in an apartman.

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  6. EI is introducing Cork to DBV and increasing SPU to 5 weekly in summer.

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    1. That would be great!
      Source?

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    2. https://www.exyuaviation.com/2018/10/aer-lingus-to-launch-new-dubrovnik.html

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    3. Thx, I must have missed that one!

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  7. Congrats! Btw, Split airport in November numbers are out:

    39.552 / 54.856
    +38,69%
    +15.304

    YTD 2017 / 2018
    2.782.033 / 3.079.995
    +10,71%
    +297.962

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    1. Wow this only goes to show how seasonal demand is. 54.856 passengers is around 914 one-way passengers a day. That's about six A320 a day.

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    2. Seasonality is shrinking every year, these are great numbers for SPU!

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    3. And SPU does not even have 6 A320 a day only showing if it had 10 of them numbers would explode.

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    4. Impressive Nov numbers for SPU, +39%!

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    5. ZAG had good November, growth should be over 10%!

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    6. Meanwhile DBV numbers fell from 34.090 to 26.615. So far this year 2.516.173.

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  8. Another missed opportunity for Croatia Airlines.

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    1. With what planes?

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    2. Good question!

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    3. Well it is problematic that no fleet expansion has been made in the last 5 years, and I don't count two wet leases for 4 months a year.

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  9. That is a long turnaround time in Dubrovnik by Ryanair standards :D

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    1. They probably could not get an earlier slot.

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    2. They will announce additional routes soon and the Aircraft will swap in DBV and SPU.

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    3. But i doubt they can make a 25 min turnaround in Split. Services often take some time there, especially if the apron is full of planes during summer.

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    4. Yes, SPU turnaround time is very short, unless, like anon 9.43 says they announce more new routes and there will be aircraft swapping.

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    5. Someone should inform SPU and DBV of this. As we see, they are not aware of these flights.

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    6. Last anon: ?

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  10. What happened to SPU and DBV aiming for the upscale tourist market?

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    1. They woke up.

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    2. I remember Montenegro wanting to do the same.

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  11. 2019 is going to be fantastic for Croatian airports.

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  12. RIP Croatia Airlines.

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    1. They won't be impacted since they don't even fly these two routes. The only airkune that could be hit here is Aer Lingus.

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    2. Their loads on ZAG-DUB could be impacted. The majority of passengers on that route are transfers from DBV and SPU.

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    3. We can start saying RIP Croatia Airlines when an LCC starts operating domestic flights in Croatia but I doubt that will happen anytime soon.

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    4. Why is everyone so convinced that the appearance of new airlines and routes will be the demise of OU? The market is growing and there will be enough demand for all.

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    5. Because people do not understand economics. Because 10 years ago there where no flights to Dublin from Croatia, when EI introduced first 2 weekly to DBV people where saying OU death. The truth is that CRoatia will have 12 million passengers this year and OU a record number of PAX. Without other carriers Croatia would have 3 million this year.

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  13. There will also be significant diaspora traffic on these routes, especially to Split. Lot of people from Dalmatia and BiH emigrated to Ireland.

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    1. I think there are large number of emigrants but I don't think many travel back home that often. If they did then there would be flights to OSI, TZL and BNX. OU tried OSI and it failed.

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  14. FR is very aggressive and I don't think they will be at all happy with easy jet continuing to expand in Croatia. They will probably launch more new routes.

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  15. This is just the beggining.

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    1. We can all hope so!

      Btw, fares from the coast to Ireland should be minimal even in summer with the competition arising. FR, EI, plus OU from or via ZAG, plus all legacies serving SPU, DBV via their hubs.

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  16. Great news. We will be seeing more and more of them in Croatia.

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  17. Nice news. Well done Croatia!

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  18. Tickets are already on sale.

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    1. Cheapest tickets from Dublin to Dubrovnik in June are 180 euros.

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    2. Expensive for an ULCC.

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    3. Ever looked at WIZZ or EasyJet prices in summer? You can get to SPU or DBV on any of the 10 daily flight from LON for as little as 400€ return. FR cant ignore that longer. 180 is really cheap even for ULCC.

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    4. 9 - 18.7.2018
      LGW-SPU

      98,-EUR


      LGW-DBV

      85,- EUR

      easyjet

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  19. What happened with FR in Osijek?

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    1. http://www.exyuaviation.com/2017/01/ryanair-pulls-out-of-osijek.html

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    2. Thanks. Seem to have missed that.

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  20. If Ryanair is fifth largest in Croatia, who is ahead other than Croatia Airlines?

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    1. Croatia
      easyJet
      Lufthansa
      Eurowings

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  21. Vladimir Milićević4 December 2018 at 10:15

    Spremimo se za još novih linija Ryanair-a za i iz Hrvatske.

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  22. Bravo Hrvatska!
    Bravo Luka Modrić!

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    1. I love this guy. Don't change man, don't change.

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  23. Ryan will have significantly more routes to Croatia next year compared to this year.

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  24. Now that Ryanair is coming to DBV there will be no space left for Wizz Air. In the end they will loose out from avoiding Croatia.

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  25. Odlicne vesti za DBV i SPU .

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  26. Luksa Novak just 10 days ago was all anti-Ryan and saying stuff to the press how they don't pay for anything and now they announce flights to Split....

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    1. A nisi pomislio kako je Ryan pristao na uvjete aerodroma?

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    2. Well Novak said the same thing today and says the airport has not signed a deal with Ryan for these flights to Dublin. I find this really strange. I mean Ryanair is supposed to be a serious company and we see now they are selling tickets for flights they never received approval form

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  27. FR negotiated directly with the government and tourist board for these flights.

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    1. Source?

      And the airport operators don't know of anything - seriously?

      And why would tourist board give a dime to Ryanair for summer flights to the coast??

      Plus why would Ryan then close their base in ZAD on the coast in summer?

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  28. Možda dođu, a možda i ne dođu ...

    https://www.jutarnji.hr/vijesti/hrvatska/ryanair-prodaje-karte-za-letove-iz-dublina-za-split-i-dubrovnik-uprave-aerodroma-se-cude-nemam-nikakvu-informaciju-o-tome/8134586/

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    1. LOL so DBV and SPU airports are unaware that Ryanair are starting flights while Ryanair isnselling flights to both. Comedy.

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    2. Goes to show that deal was made with Capelli and tourist board. So they probably did get some incentives.

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    3. Capelli can’t arrange flights without SPU and DBV management agreeing on slots. That is against IATA/ICAO rules that slots at slot controlled airports and schedules at schedule regulated airports must be determined by the airport’s slot/schedule coordinator in a fair and transparent fashion. This might be just another form of pressure on SPU and DBV management by Ryanair: let us fly or anger our passengers and damage your reputation.

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    4. Kokice i kikiriki....
      Vlado, jel ovo kakva sapunica u najavu?

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    5. How is this even possible??? wtf?

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    6. This is a comedy!

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    7. Vladimir Milićević4 December 2018 at 17:41

      Krešimire,

      Biće svega, svačega i svašta. Ko ne voli kokice i kikiriki, nek pređe na pršut i sir.

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    8. Prsut... mmmm

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  29. I doubt FR started selling these tickets to preassure SPU and DBV because that is too big of a risk. Someone is obviously made a deal with Ryansir without the airpotts knowing it. Odd to say the least.

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    1. But in that case airports at least must be involved or informed about it as they need to plan their traffic.

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  30. Looking forward to see what happens here. Will SPU and DBV cave in or will Ryan Air cancel these flights.

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    1. Someone will be left red faced.

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  31. Upravama dubrovačkog i splitskog aerodroma tvrde kako s Ryanairom nisu potpisali nikakve ugovore niti su njihovi avioni uvedeni u redove letenja za sljedeću ljetnu sezonu.

    “Iznenađeni smo najavom Ryanaira da sljedeće ljeto uvodi letove za Dubrovnik. Zračna luka Dubrovnik nema nikavu službenu informaciju o njihovom dolasku niti smo s njima potpisali ugovor o slotovima niti uslugama sljetanja”, kaže za Jutarnji.hr Josip Paljetak, zamjenik direktora prometnog sektora Zračne luke Dubrovnik.

    Da bi neka kompanija mogla obavljati letove za neku Zračnu luku s njom mora dogovoriti slotove i potpisati ugovore o sljetanju. U dubrovačkoj Zračnoj luci tvrde kako ugovor nij potpisan pa uopće nije jasno kako je Ryanair uopće utvrdio red letenja na osnovu kojeg prodaje i avio karte. Ista je situacija i u Zračnoj luci Split čiji direktor Lukša Novak ne može potvrditi informaciju o dolasku Ryanaira jer Zračna luka Split još uvijek nije utvrdila red letenja za iduću godinu.

    „Znači, ništa se nije promjenilo u ovom razdoblju, što se tiče Zračne luke Split i Ryanaira. Naši djelatnici su bili polovicom studenog na konferenciji u Madridu gdje se razgovara o letovima. Međutim, tu nije uspostavljen kontakt sa Ryanairom. Doduše, imamo informaciju da je Ryanair radio nekakve planove ali ti planovi nisu potvrđeni od strane Zračne luke Split. Zračna luka Split odobrava letove i utvrđuje letove a kada ih bude utvrdila o tome će izvjetiti javnost. Naravno da svaka zračna luka ima svoje kapacitete o kojima mora voditi računa“, kazao je Lukša Novak direktor Zračne luke Split.

    Dakle, Rayanair nema ugovor ni sa Zračnom lukom Split ali usprkos tome prodaje karte na liniji Dublin – Split.

    Prema obavijesti na njihovim stranicama, prvi letovi iz Dublina za Split i Dubrovnik trebali bi krenuti 1. lipnja sljedeće godine. Posljednjih letovi za Dubrovnik idu 25. listopada, a za Split dan kasnije. Provjerili smo i dostupnost karata. Za let iz Dublina za Split 31. kolovoza i povratak 6. rujna treba izdvojiti 83,63 eura. A isto toliko stoji povratna karta za Dubrovnik 2. lipnja i povratak 9. lipnja. Let iz Dublina za Split traje 3 sata i 10 minuta, a za Dubrovnik 20 minuta duže.

    Ryanair već se godinama pokušava probiti na aerodrome u Dubrovniku i Splitu ali pod svojim posebnim uvjetima što uprave ovih aerodroma odbijaju te im poručuju kako mogu obavljati letove pod uvjetima koje imaju i sve ostale kompanije.

    Lukša Novak je i danas potvrdio da sve avio kompanije imaju jednake uvjete u Zračnoj luci Split. “Pogodnosti ostvaruju na osnovu broja letova i broja putnika. Nitko nema posebne uvjete a pravila za pogodnosti su transparentna”.

    Ryanair kroz sustav zajedničkog oglašavanja traži sufinaciranje svojih letova od aedrodroma u koje slijeće te niže cijene aerodromskih usluga u odnosu na ostale kompanije. Takve pogodnosti je ostvario na aerodromima u Zadru, Rijeci i Puli. No, s obzirom da zračne luke Dubrovnik i Split ljeti i onako imaju više nego i dovoljno letova i avio kompanija, dolazak Ryanaira im nije presudan. Dododuše, Zračna luka Dubrovnik je Ryanairu još ranije ponudila kako mogu razgovarati o posebnim cijenama aerodromskih pristojbi ukoliko se kompanija odluči za letenje tijekom cijele godine ali to njima nije zanimljivo niti isplativo.

    U Ryanairu su prije nekoliko mjeseci pokušali dolazak u Split i Dubrovnik dogovoriti s hrvatskim ministrom turizma s kojim su se predstavnici kompanije susreli na sajmu u Londonu. No, ministar im je samo obećao da ih može spojiti s Upravama aerodroma ali ništa više od toga. Sad se Ryanair, prema svemu sudeći, odlučio na novu taktiku pritiska.

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    1. Nema potrebe da kopiraš članak kad je netko već ranije stavio link na njega.

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  32. Sad sam trazio kartu Dublun Split. Nema.

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    1. Zanimljivo. Bila je u toku dana.

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    2. Vladimir Milićević4 December 2018 at 23:38

      Ima karata.

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    3. A ko se ovde onda pravi lud Vladimire? Kako ce se ovo zavrsiti? Ko ne govori istinu?

      I ako moze bez smesnih odgovora o pivu, siru, prsuti itd.´
      Hvala

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    4. Vladimir Milićević5 December 2018 at 12:13

      Zašto mene pitate ko ne govori istinu?

      Savetujem da se obratite Vladi RH za odgovor. Zna se jako dobro ko je i kada pregovarao. Zna se i ko je bio u Zagrebu za vikend na pregovorima. Zašto se neko sada predomišlja, nije na meni da objašnjavam, jer jednostavno ne znam.

      Karata ima da se kupi. Lako se može proveriti na sajtu. Da li će biti letova to je sasvim drugo pitanje.

      Kikiriki, pivo, pršut i sir su daleko od smešnih odgovora. Ko shvata blagu ironiju zna šta to znači. Ko ne zna, ne mogu da pomognem.

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    5. Zato sto se cesto javljate na ovom a i drugim forumima prezentujuci sebe kao osobu koja dosta zna o FR jer tu i radi.

      Da, karata ima da se kupi. Jedino se ne zna kako su mogle biti pustene u prodaju ako ne postoji potpisani dokument obe ugovorne strane.

      Shvacena je Vasa ironija ali je vec toliko puta ponovljena da je postala bljutava. Stice se utisak da sem ironije nesto konkretnije ne mozete da ponudite iako ocigledno imate zelju za tim.

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    6. Vladimir Milićević5 December 2018 at 13:40

      Ja kad vidim da neko nešto ne zna, Ja ga ne pitam. Ne znam kakvo je pravilo kod Vas.

      Videćemo da li nema potpisanih dokumenata. Ako ih ne bude bilo, dokumenata, zna se ko je kriv. Ali ako ih bude, da li ćemo i onda znati ko je kriv?

      Karte se ne mogu pustiti u prodaju ako nema uslova za to. Svaki brucoš pravnog fakulteta zna da su karte ugovorna obaveza.

      Ironija ne leži svakome. Utisak može biti varljiv. Sve je to lično shvatanje, te se u takve rasprave ne upuštam.

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    7. Moje pravilo je da se ne upustam u diskusiju ako vec vec materiju ne poznajem ili mi nije dozvoljeno da nesto kazem.

      Vrlo brzo ce se pokazati kome ce porasti nos u ovoj prici - da li onima koji "nisu nista potpisivali" ili onima koji ovo koriste kao pritisak na aerodrome.

      Da, slazem se za ironiju. Pogotovo onu bezbroj puta ponovljenu.


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    8. Vladimir Milićević5 December 2018 at 15:42

      Dobro pravilo, savetujem da ga se pridržavate.

      Već sam napisao da će se brzo utvrditi ko je lagao.

      Za mene i moje pravilo da sa anonimnima diskutujemo samo do određene granice, ovo razgovora dosta je bilo. Ukoliko želite lično, predstavite se. Elementarna kultura.

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    9. Savet dobronamerno uzvracen.

      Nema ovde nista licno. Iako ste Vi to mozda tako razumeli ili zeleli da razumete.

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  33. Dont rush with this, because both Dubrovnik and Split Airport authorities said to the press that they havent signed any contract with Ryanair about these flight and that there wasnt any agreement for starting new flights with Ryanair...

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  34. Very informative comment section! I did not know the Split and Dubrovnik CEOs have denied signing any contract with Ryanair. They weren't even aware of this.
    So, apparently Ryanair is selling tickets for non-existing flights? If true, this might be Ryanair's most pathetic and nonsensical pressure "strategy" to date. What do they expect to achieve by cheating...for Dubrovnik and Split to cave in if the sales are good?
    Hopefully that doesn't happen. It's great that people are sharing this information from Croatian press, exposing Ryanair's fraud.

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