Ljubljana Airport prepared for Adria collapse


Ljubljana Jože Pučnik Airport has said it is ready for the likely demise of Slovenia’s national carrier and its biggest customer, which has ‘temporarily’ discontinued most of its flights until at least Saturday morning. "The situation is being monitored. Regardless of the outcome, it should be emphasized that air travel exists mainly because of market demand which speaks in favour of maintaining services that are commercially viable and potentially profitable", the airport said. It added that a strategy has been devised in case of Adria’s bankruptcy, which cannot be publicly disclosed at this time. “We are currently in talks, persuading and analysing the sustainability of new potential routes with fifteen new carriers. This is done on a daily basis and is a continuous and never-ending process", the airport noted.

Ljubljana Airport, whose traffic trends and business has been heavily dependent on Adria Airways over the years, has eased its reliance on the national carrier, with foreign airlines having an increasing impact. Adria's passenger share at its home base in Ljubljana stood at 56% in 2018, down from a high of over 77% in 2010. This year, the Slovenian carrier was expected to account for around 50% of Ljubljana's traffic. Adria faces no competition on a number of routes from the Slovenian capital. They include: Brussels, Copenhagen, Frankfurt, Munich, Prague, Pristina, Sarajevo, Skopje, Sofia, Tirana, Vienna and Zurich. Routes that are operated by both Adria and another carrier are Amsterdam (Transavia), Berlin (easyJet), Paris (Air France) and Podgorica (Montenegro Airlines). The Slovenian carrier also maintained a number of charter flights.

Adria Airways network

In 2011, when Adria faced significant financial uncertainty, the General Manager of Ljubljana Airport, Zmago Skobir, said, “If Adria were to go bankrupt, the airport would experience a twelve-month crisis during which it would have to find partners to fill in the void of up to 70% of flights operated from the airport”. Late last year, Mr Skobir said “it wouldn't be the end of the world for the airport or Slovenia's connectivity” if developments at Adria “did not go according to plan”. Foreign carriers have begun responding to developments taking place at Adria Airways with Air Serbia scheduling double daily flights between Belgrade and Ljubljana from the start of the 2019/2020 winter season, up from eleven weekly last winter, and Montenegro Airlines adding an additional weekly flight from Podgorica for a total of five weekly. The Serbian carrier will add extra capacity on routes that were operated by the Slovenian airline. Air France HOP! will more than double its operations between Paris and Ljubljana this winter, with the carrier to maintain thirteen weekly flights, up from six last winter season. The airline will maintain two daily services, with the exception to Saturdays. Furthermore, LOT will add an extra weekly rotation between Warsaw and Ljubljana this winter for a total of eight weekly flights.




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  1. Anonymous09:01

    Their negotiating position is rather weakened now that there is no Adria. They should have worked on getting those airlines earlier.

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    1. Every village in EXYu wants to have its Airline, its Airport, it"s like you living on credit just to prove yourself to your neighbors. If I were the Slovenian prime minister I would probably shut down the Airline as well as the Airport until we find a partner to privatize it,in case we unable to do that i would turn to the Croatians & try to have some bilateral agreement regarding Slovenian passengers traveling aboard. If you're small & unattractive why would you keep wasting public money on something that doesn't work?

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  2. Anonymous09:01

    Hopefully others will come to fill the void left by Adria, but LJU will definitely be affected. Unfortunate really.

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  3. Anonymous09:02

    Wizz Air really miscalculated the time of their withdrawal from Slovenia.

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    1. Anonymous09:14

      the could return at any time ;)

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    2. Wizz Air have their focus on Thomas Cook bankruptcy, a much larger market.

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    3. Anonymous09:21

      but thats mainly package tourism init?

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    4. What matters is that it's P2P, and the trick is figuring out the largest flows and attracting attention. They're currently hauling people back with EUR 99 fares while U2 and FR are charging 600+.

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    5. Anonymous17:28

      To the contrary, this is a good way to negotiate subsidies. LCC love when a public side is really under pressure.

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  4. Anonymous09:03

    "Adria faces no competition on a number of routes from the Slovenian capital. They include: Brussels, Copenhagen, Frankfurt, Munich, Prague, Pristina, Sarajevo, Skopje, Sofia, Tirana, Vienna and Zurich."

    That's a lot routes. Other than the Star Alliance hubs I don't see which other airline will cover the remaining destinations.

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    1. Anonymous09:45

      Therefore, Fraport are far from prepared for Adria's likely collapse.

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    2. And, yet, Fraport was constantly attacked for not building a new terminal at LJU.

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  5. Anonymous09:03

    Marketing office at Fraport LJU better iron the good suit and start looking for customers.

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  6. Anonymous09:03

    Whatever LJU does, they are still going to lose direct airlinks with PRN, SKP, TIA, SJJ and SOF.

    We have to see what LH Group does since AF-KL, YM and JU already boosted their presence in LJU.

    At the moment the Star Alliance fortress hub in LJU has almost completely collapsed. TK and LO are on bad terms with LH Group so they are actually redirecting passengers away from MUC, FRA, BRU, ZRH...

    I wouldn't be surprised if LH Group more or less gives up on LJU. Maybe they will have double daily CRJ flights from MUC and a seasonal flight on LX.

    LH can no longer compete with the Air France-Transavia combo.

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    1. Anonymous09:13

      TIA is purely transit, dont know about PRN (maybe theres a Kosovar diaspora in SLO)

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    2. Anonymous09:17

      Yes but regardless of who flew to TIA, the airport will lose its connection to Albania. Those flying to PRN can fly from LJU to INI and then drive to Pristina.

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    3. Anonymous09:23

      correct but i dont think TIA is so strategic for LJU in the first place. it was a nice niche market for JP

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    4. Anonymous09:29

      LJU is about to lose 50% of its passengers, I am sure they dont want to lose any city! I mean they might have a catastrophic winter especially if flights to FRA, VIE, MUC and ZRH are not restored.

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    5. Anonymous09:54

      LJU is there to serve Slovenes and not to be primarily serving transfer pax.

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    6. Anonymous10:01

      SMFH.

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  7. Anonymous09:03

    The most likely outcome is Slovenian government founding a replacement Airline, and NEVER privatize it. Poland and Portugal case shows a state-owned national airline can be profitable as well. And even if its not profitable all the time, it can always be better off than failed privatization such as with the terminally ill Adria today.

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    1. Anonymous11:13

      With the government limiting its spending, I can't see that happening. Frankly, I'd rather see the gov't spend that money on healthcare than on a replacement airline.

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  8. Anonymous09:04

    I'm surprised LOT has neither increased flights or capacity.

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    1. Anonymous09:06

      WAW is at maximum capacity, they can barely add flights to anywhere. They barely increased BEG from 10 to 11. I am sure LJU will get larger planes now, maybe even 738.

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    2. LOT added one more flight on fridays, so now it's 8 weekly flights in winter schedule https://bit.ly/2lUam9z

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    3. Anonymous10:02

      LOT is not after short-haul pax in LJU, but after long-haul pax going from LJU to America or Asia. So collapse of Adria doesn't change a lot for LOT.

      Much more than by the airport in WAW, LOT is currently constrained by grounding of B737 Max. By now it should have 11 Max in its fleet, so all of them missing limits its short-haul expansion this year.

      Maybe if the connection to FRA or MUC is not reinstated (which I doubt), LOT will turn its eyes to short-haul from LJU.

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    4. Anonymous10:16

      TAP just reported a loss od 119 million dollars in the first 6 months of this year. This comes after a loss of 90 million in the same period of last year.
      i don't think state run carriers with huge losses year after year is a very good idea.

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    5. Anonymous10:21

      ' So collapse of Adria doesn't change a lot for LOT'

      Oh I think it does especially now when there are no flights from LJU to other Star Alliance hubs that handled a lot of intercontinental traffic from Slovenia. LH Group has not yet responded so all these passengers are flying on other airlines including LO.

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  9. Anonymous09:06

    Wonder if we will finally see Lufthansa launch flights to Ljubljana.

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    1. Anonymous09:07

      I think there is a bigger chance to see Eurowings than Lufthansa.

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    2. Anonymous09:10

      But LH has a better fleet to serve LJU with smaller aircraft.

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    3. Anonymous10:05

      Much more probable is OS to Vienna. OS is traditionally an airline in LH group to cover ex-Yu.

      EW has its base in Dusseldorf and could hardly cover LJU-FRA or MUC.

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    4. Anonymous11:01

      As long as they don't start using Eurowings on short haul flights from FRA then Lufthansa itself is more posible.

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    5. Anonymous11:05

      Some years ago I talk with LH people about posibility of flying to and from LJU and they said that until Adria will be flying from LJU there will be no LH flights as cooperation is (was) very good, and now as Adria closure is so close I hope they will start flying.

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  10. Anonymous09:07

    Swiss will probably come back on ZRH-LJU. They weren't successful on the route a few years ago but now that there is no competition....

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    1. Anonymous09:44

      I hope so but the smallest Swiss's plane is CS100 which have 125 seats... maybe is it too much for LJU? They used to send their RJ100 which had 97 seats and then they closed the route. Adria used a mix of CRJ700, CRJ900 and sometimes Saab 2000 on that route so I suppose that there is not so much demand.

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    2. Anonymous10:09

      Hardly probably. It's not only about LF, but also about fares. Swiss tends to be more expensive within LX group.

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    3. Anonymous11:02

      Swiss was succesfull enough when they were flying from LJU but they just left and give all pax to JP, all flights are code share JP/LX.

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    4. Anonymous12:37

      Why should they stay, if Adria subsidisied their transfer pax. It was better for Swiss that Adria did this rather then they. What to want more?

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  11. Anonymous09:07

    Fraport will have to reduce those fees right down.

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    1. Anonymous09:14

      Maybe interesting tweet regarding LJU/Fraport

      https://twitter.com/podjetnik/status/1173528946144620544

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    2. Anonymous09:19

      What does it say?

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    3. Anonymous10:03

      TW translation
      "They are very ambitious but weak on implementation. Which is, among other things, a consequence of the "low-yeald" (uninteresting / complex) passenger aviation market as Slovenian is."

      As far as I get, he is slovenian working for Swiss.

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  12. Anonymous09:07

    LH Group is the biggest loser here. People are starting to buy their new year and Christmas tickets now and no one is crazy to book on JP operated flights to Star Alliance hubs. Especially not after all the bad PR.

    I am shocked LH did not prepare itself better for this scenario.

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    1. Anonymous09:09

      It's obviously not a major market for them and the number of passengers coming from LJU represent a really tiny portion of their overall passenger figures. They have bigger problems.

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    2. Anonymous09:09

      Luckily the Slovenian market isn't small enough for AF-KL.

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    3. Anonymous10:17

      Flying to Europe from LJU via Paris is not actually the most direct route.

      A side comment: LH is for years every year profitable and AF is for years every year losing money. Maybe being cautious and picky helps.

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    4. Anonymous10:23

      KL increasing LJU through Transavia which will fly 5 weekly next month on the 737. Btw KL/HV will have more seats in LJU this winter than in ZAG.

      KLM is highly profitable.

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    5. Anonymous11:44

      People drive to VIE or KLU and fly from there- On the LH group. So how does the LH group lose out here?

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    6. Anonymous12:50

      How do they not lose when other airlines have rushed to fill thee void left by JP? All North American passengers LH Group had are switching to AF-KL and LO. Very few will drive to VIE to catch a flight and even less so to KLU from where fares on OS are very high.

      Only low yielding passengers will travel to other cities around LJU.

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  13. Anonymous09:09

    I wonder who the 15 airlines they are talking to are.

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  14. Anonymous09:11

    I don't think they are prepared at all otherwise they already would have swung into action. Time will tell.

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  15. Anonymous09:11

    SKP and SJJ are a must. not only because of the large ex-yu diaspora in SLO. Wizz could step in here easily (or TZL if SJJ is not working)

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    1. Anonymous09:14

      +1

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    2. Anonymous09:46

      SKP has more business pax than gastos. There are a bunch of slovenian companies operating in the country and people are commuting. Therefore I don’t see Wizz Air filling up the gap with two weekly flights..Most of them will switch to ZAG now.

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    3. Anonymous09:51

      Or JU via BEG. they are businessmen so they don't want to waste time on the road and at the border plus time is extremely valuable for them.

      JU sells LJU-SKP via BEG for 9.906 RSD which is €83. This is a regular fare mind you.

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    4. Anonymous10:05

      not only businessmen, ministers and their stuff were regularily flying wth JP to Brussels and similar

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  16. Anonymous09:12

    I hope we finally see more LCCs flying to LJU on routes other than London!

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  17. Anonymous09:13

    Bravo Fraport!

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    1. Anonymous09:48

      For being reactive not proactive?

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    2. Anonymous10:12

      If Fraport had been pro active in bringing airlines that competed directly with JP it would have gone bankrupt much sooner.

      Just my2cents

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  18. Anonymous09:15

    Ironically enough, LJU will only benefit from JP's demise. Unless future JP doesn't become LCC such as Malév turned into Wizzair.
    Fraport will be able to negotiate with millions of other airlines....

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    1. Anonymous09:19

      Wasn't Fraport able to negotiate up to this point? Also how did Malev turn into Wizz Air?

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    2. Anonymous09:24

      Malev didnt turn into anything

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    3. Anonymous09:25

      It turned into dust.

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    4. Anonymous09:30

      At least MA died graciously, JP is setting itself on fire and dying an agonizing death while screaming its lungs out.

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  19. Anonymous09:15

    Thankfully they eased reliance on Adria in last few years but it still accounts for half of all traffic and almost all of its transfer traffic. There will be a negative impact on LJU for sure.

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    1. Anonymous09:18

      How long did it take for BUD to record its first monthly passenger increase when Malev collapsed?

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    2. Anonymous09:20

      LJU and BUD experience is incomparable because BUD already had another airline based there - Wizz.

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    3. Anonymous15:19

      I can see someone like LOT or perhaps even Austrian or Lufthansa taking over. Adria Airways was always doomed to fail, the small airline in a very small country in big boys universe. The end of an era.

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  20. Anonymous09:19

    Adria had the misfortune to collapse at the same time as Thomas Cook. Most LCCs will be focusing on the UK market now where they see a big opportunity now.

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    1. Precisely.

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    2. Anonymous10:19

      while the no-deal-brexit scenario is stil possible .... i very much doubt it

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    3. Anonymous10:34

      You can doubt all you want but Wizz Air just announced they plan to bid for Thomas Cook's London Gatwick slots.

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    4. Anonymous10:55

      for flying to the Carribean?? slots is something else.

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  21. Anonymous09:20

    Unfortunately I think many markets will be left unserved and others won't magically appear to cover them.

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    1. Anonymous14:26

      I think exactly the same. I am afraid this is the scenario that has the most probability to happen.

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  22. I think it's time for OU to base at least two DASH-8-400 there. And I don't understand why they are not ready as they said yesterday. After all I think its easier now since both countries are in the EU and all the paper work to establish this agreement will be much easier.

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    1. Anonymous09:27

      They simply don't have the aircraft and they are also in a very bad financial state. How would they justify to the EU the recent capital injection from the government while they go on expanding in Ljubljana, which would also require relocating some crew, maintenance staff, catering....

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    2. Anonymous09:30

      its too early for OU ...

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    3. Anonymous09:31

      OU catering is a joke, I am sure facilities in LJU can handle that. OU could base on Q400 and at least operated 12 weekly to BRU, Slovenian government can pay them to fly the route like they did with JP.

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    4. Anonymous10:59

      If OU is losing money flying and the Croatian government has to put more money in to keep it flying, what interest do they have to fly even more and potentially lose more money while ensuring connectivity for Slovenia?

      What makes you believe they can organise their LJU operations better than their ZAG operations?

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    5. Anonymous11:06

      Slovenian market is wealthier than the Croatian one, they can charge higher fares and so improve their yields. On top of that they can agree with LH to have a monopoly on flights to major hubs. When there is a will, there is a way!

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    6. Anonymous11:46

      It is September and OU has 5 aircraft sit on the tarmac. So I dont understand why they dont fly them out of LJU.

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    7. That is not true. In September there are no aircraft sit on the tarmac. Even during slowest winter months there are no more then 2 planes on tarmac (or maintenance).

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  23. Anonymous09:30

    In a months time Slovenia will have no flights to Belgium. Crazy.

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    1. Anonymous10:00

      Maybe Brussels Airlines will start flying to LJU.

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    2. Anonymous10:03

      Highly doubt it, especially not in winter. They can't make ZAG work year round either.

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    3. Anonymous10:15

      Yea, but they have competition on that route. If JP goes down, they wont have any competition until end of march

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    4. Anonymous10:24

      In ZAG they compete against a government owned airline which doesn't care about profitablity. In LJU they would have a monopoly especially now that W6 left CRL.

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  24. Anonymous09:31

    The Slovenian government is also completely unprepared. They still haven't finished rewriting the aviation law which would allow subsidies. Then it has to go through parliament and then it has to go to the European Commission.

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  25. Anonymous09:38

    I still can't bring myself to believe that this time last week Adria executives were happily promoting a new flight to Liverpool for next year. I mean as if they didn't know the company was just about to collapse.

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    1. Anonymous09:40

      I think we can all safely conclude that the 4K management are a bunch of idiots.

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    2. Anonymous09:41

      They also promoted their winter timetable with a lot of increased frequencies. It's a typical scam to make creditors believe how all is good.

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    3. Anonymous10:14

      Yes, you go and ask money for expansion while actually you will spend it for survival. That was the idea.

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    4. Anonymous10:21

      But creditors like banks or leasing companies do get financial accounts directly from a company and timely so... They don't just listen to PR.

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  26. Anonymous09:44

    Passenger numbers and finances at LJU will take a hit.

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    1. Anonymous10:02

      In the short term. But in the long term I think it might be even good for Ljubljana.

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  27. Anonymous09:44

    Will LJU still go ahead with building the new terminal?

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    1. Anonymous09:46

      Yes. They said a few days ago that Adria's fate won't have an impact on construction.

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    2. Anonymous09:50

      Good. Thanks for the info.

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  28. Anonymous09:47

    Was LJU at the recent World Routes forum? Hope they did some negotiating.

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    1. Anonymous09:50

      Thankfully yes
      https://www.exyuaviation.com/2019/09/ex-yu-airports-to-negotiate-new-routes.html

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    2. Anonymous09:50

      Ironically Adria also participated at the summit, unless they cancelled last minute.

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  29. Anonymous09:48

    It will also be interesting to see how TIA and PRN react. They had quite a few passengers handled by Adria.

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    1. Anonymous09:49

      If PRN survived Germania's collapse it will survive Adria's.

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    2. Anonymous09:51

      Adria's bankruptcy will speed up Eurowings' expansion in Pristina.

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    3. Anonymous10:24

      At this rate EW might collapse next so I wouldn't really bet on them.

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    4. Anonymous10:50

      check EW's result from last year. lucky they have LH behind them

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    5. Anonymous13:36

      It will be good for LH as there would not be any more completion for them and maybe eurowings can replace the Munich-Tirana flight

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  30. Anonymous10:05

    Hoping SAS will cover Copenhagen.

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    1. Anonymous10:09

      It's much more realistic that the route will be taken over by Wizz or Norwegian.

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    2. Anonymous10:09

      Norwegian will also probably be gone in a year so don't count on them.

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  31. Anonymous10:10

    A number of routes served by Adria from Ljubljana will eventually be taken over by other airlines but the process won't be quick.

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  32. Anonymous10:11

    The government's stupid public announcement that they will subsidies 4-5 lines (ie Lufthansa group hubs) is dumb. These airlines will now wait for those subsidies to be approved which will probably take a few months.

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  33. Anonymous10:15

    Adria has been on the brink of the abyss for years. If LJU doesn't have a plan then I don't know what they have been doing.

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  34. Interesting times ahead in LJU... let's hope new airlines step in ASAP.

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  35. Anonymous10:56

    Low-cost airlines use, as a rule, A320 or B737 aircraft with a capacity of 180-200 seats. Adria flew on airplanes with a capacity of 70-90 seats and almost never had 100% load. How much should future low-cost airlines reduce flight frequencies to ensure 85-90% loading on aircraft with 180-200 seats? once or twice a week? where flights were daily ...
    I think this is the reason for the low interest of low-cost airlines in Ljubljana, and not in competition with Adria.

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    1. JU520 BEGLAX11:45

      Anonym 1056h, this exactly the problem for LCC ex LJU. Maybe 1,2,3 destinations ex LJU work like this, rest not.

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  36. JU520 BEGLAX11:11

    All LJU needs is 2 CS-100 LX flights to ZRH, 2 CR9 flights LH to MUC, 2 Dash-8 flights OS to VIE, 1 Embraer 195 and 1 CR9 LH to FRA and 1 A319 to SN to BRU (all flights 5-7 x weekly)

    plus of course TK IST, JU BEG, YM TGD, AY HEL, AF CDG, SU SVO, Transavia to AMS, Easyjet to LON, maybe 1-2 other Airports and eventually SK to CPH 4-5 weekly flights

    No Adria needed. No need to waste taxpayers money for an airline who has no chance to be profitable as JP proved the past 25 years, as OU proves, as JU proves.

    Use taxpayers money to improve road network and faster rail lines

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    1. Anonymous12:14

      And how in the world will the flights from your 1st paragraph be provided for if JP vanishes ?

      The question is not what we need in LJU, but how it will be done ! JP, new JP or other airlines on the market that until now didn't wish to start flights to LJU.

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    2. Anonymous12:19

      .... besides, road and rail traffic that you suggest instead, is pre 1914 mode of transport.

      Very modern, I must admit ..

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    3. Anonymous13:13

      Slovenian rail transport is a pre-1914 mode of transport, but many other European countries are discovering that rail is perfectly suited for a densely populated continent with relatively short distances between major cities -- and it's environmentally friendly to boot.

      Besides, Fraport will have to adjust its pricing strategy now that it won't have a guaranteed income from a state-favored quasi-monopolist, and foreign carriers will step in to fill the gaps.

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    4. Anonymous13:18

      It's already happening:

      https://www.dnevnik.si/1042909278/posel/novice/odpoved-adrijinih-letov-povecala-zanimanje-novih-prevoznikov-za-ljubljano

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    5. JU520 BEGLAX15:09

      anonymous 1219h

      just cause the Balkans infrastructure is not matching international standards, it doesn not mean that the rest of the world does not function that way.
      Belgrade for example, probably one of the few cities in Europe with almost 2 mio Population having no metro. Ljubljana no trams, no S-Bahn. Morning and evening traffic jams into and out LJU. Train from LJU to ZAG takes 2.5 hours for 140 km.
      I do all of my Business traffic with public Transportation and use rent a car only locally. And I use the train fm ZRH to CDG or FRA or BRU to AMS, PAR to LON or ZRH to MXP, ZRH to GVA. In Japan TYO-OSA you take Shinkansen, no Need for plane
      Already Romans 2000 years ago knew how important roads and ways were for business development. Time to wake up in Balkans, otherwise you never grow up

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    6. Anonymous19:56

      Former Soviet Union aka Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Belarus and Russia barely have any buses to distances longer than 100km. There are trains everywhere.

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  37. Anonymous11:15

    Only 16 departures from LJU today, how depressing.

    3x JU
    2x TK
    2x U2

    And then others with a single flight here and there.

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  38. Anonymous11:47

    Problem je u LH oni ne umeju da rade sa niskobudzetnim kompanijama. Dok bogati direktori daju pare oni mogu da lete inace im propada aviokompanija. Unistili su dosada nekoliko svojih kompanija Condor, Germanwings, BMI, nekoliko regionalnih. Adriji nije bilo dovoljno da im puni 4 aerodroma. Ciao.

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  39. Anonymous14:24

    I'm just afraid that no new airline will fill the gap, with LCC not being interested in having 1 or 2 flights per week and legacy ones unwilling to start a nonprofitable route.

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  40. Nemjee14:26

    According to beg.aero JU will be sending its B733 to LJU tonight as well tomorrow evening. Morning flight (for now) is on the Atr. Seems like many have profited from those rescue fares.

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    1. Anonymous14:49

      JU is collecting the thumbs of the cake. Besides if they want to benefit from the rescue fares they can send their A330 and temporarily suspend JFK and focus entirely on LJU.
      The other option is to cancel the INI base and replace it with LJU.

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    2. Anonymous14:50

      Shhh - not so laud.

      LOOL

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    3. Nemjee15:06

      Interesting idea regarding A330. Even though there is a sharp rise in passenger numbers I still think it's wiser for JU to first upgrade LJU to double daily A319. Truth be told I wouldn't be surprised if that happens soon. BEG is ideally positioned for transfers from LJU to the Balkans and beyond. JP dying an agonizing death is the perfect opportunity for JU, especially since OS is locked out of the Slovenian market ... at least for the time being. :)

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    4. Anonymous15:07

      *loud

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    5. Anonymous15:56

      Of course BEG_LJU can be upgraded from ATR to A330. JU can be more competitive with TK which already is a serious airline in LJU. A321 are being sent constantly. The other twist is to launch 4 daily flights and cancel existing weak routes such as CAI, KRR and HAM for example.

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    6. Nemjee16:07

      Since when are CAI and KRR weak routes?

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    7. Anonymous16:18

      Monday flight is on A319

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    8. Anonymous16:45

      Nemjee both destinations as well as HAM have very week bookings for October and the rest of the winter season.
      I don't believe that they should become seasonal but reducing frequencies is advisable.

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    9. Anonymous16:47

      HAM und STR are pretty bad regarding load factor, most of time less than 60%.
      Especiall when Eurowings starts STR-BEG in June 2020 (3x weekly), the load factor for JU will get even worse I guess (at the moment 6x weekly to STR). Probably would be better to increase LJU flights up to 3-4 daily to get transfer PAX to Montenegro, Albania, Bulgaria, Bosnia, Croatia.

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    10. Anonymous16:50

      Connections from LJU should be timed so as to connect to also connect to SKP, Greece, Malta and the Middle East network too.

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    11. Anonymous17:10

      Anon 16.47

      You are obviously not from Serbia or familiar with JU because you would know 4 daily would not make sense for JU at the moment. Nice try though. With two daily flights LJU connects to all those destinations.

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  41. Anonymous15:00

    Where is Holger Kowarsch ? Disappeared ?

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    1. JU520 BEGLAX15:14

      They let him go, he knows too much. Could be endangering some politician carreer path

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    2. Anonymous16:35

      And where is the wonderkid? ah, his dream of being CEO is ticked off, results are irrelevant...

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    3. Anonymous06:48

      Wonder kind's bubble busted.. perhaps he is writing a PR spin message that Adria has talks with Boeing for buying 50 planes and capital injection of 120 mio... I guess there is still some white powder left on the top floor.. go see..

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  42. Anonymous20:53

    Maybe Air Serbia could do charters for Slovenian tour operators ?
    They do already in summer at Banja Luka and Ohrid airports ...

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  43. Anonymous21:10

    JU should start Maribor flights now.

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    1. Anonymous23:25

      No regular scheduled flights - only charters .

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    2. Anonymous23:41

      Increasing frequencies this winter to LJU will do just fine for JU.

      And there will definitely be charters with them from Ljubljana as Slovenian travel agencies already make preparations to switch to them.

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  44. Anonymous08:09

    JU did great job in LJU

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  45. Anonymous08:26

    It's really simple, they can simply not charge landing fees to airlines that increase service.

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  46. Anonymous09:21

    Do you want to know how Fraport is preparing for '15 new airlines'? By letting people go. 40 people employed through the agency, gone at the end of September, lots of them were here for almost two years, so it’s not seasonal. Some students, too and more will fallow. When asked by Finance if they are letting people go because of Adria, they responded that is because of the end of the season. Sure, that make sense. We were not able to provide enough people for what airlines demand (except Turkish, they are strict enough to not bargain over their policies) during the summer, and we still can’t do it, even with Adria not flying. Fraport just won’t understand there is not enough staff.
    During this summer lots of employees in ground handling quitted because those f**ked up schedules are not worth our health. Those who didn’t quit, worked way too much and really on the line with the law. The result is huge number of sick leaves and people working without healing injuries that happened because of hurry and overload. This craziness will now extend in winter schedule.
    ‘Family friendly company’ my ass. We don’t have time or energy for family during summer season and now we won’t have it even through the winter. Thank you Fraport for treating us like shit and robots.

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