Investors outline plans for Russian-backed Adria


Investors from Russia and the United Arab Emirates, who are linked to aircraft manufacturer Sukhoi, have formulated plans to relaunch Adria Airways if they are successful in acquiring the remains of the company’s business at an auction this Thursday. "Adria Airways’ certificates allow us to operate not only out of Ljubljana but from any airport in Europe. The Slovenian market is very interesting. There is no real competition. Currently, it is only possible to fly to just ten destinations and the fares are very expensive”, Oleg Evdokimov, a representative of the Russian investors told Slovenia’s public broadcaster RTV SLO. The carrier would operate an all-Sukhoi Superjet 100 fleet.

Under the plan, Adria's brand name would be retained, while the company would employ some 150 people, including thirty pilots. The carrier would attempt to fly to at least five destinations throughout the year, including Milan and Barcelona. “We plan to start in the summer with the primary task of providing flights for Slovenians and Austrians (from Villach and Klagenfurt) to primary vacation destinations. We plan to serve these routes with SSJ aircraft. The second goal is to compete with "weak" competitors such as Lufthansa and Swiss on three important destinations from Ljubljana: Zurich, Munich and Frankfurt”, Mr Evdokimov said. In 2018, Adria ordered fifteen Superjet 100 aircraft, while the Russian manufacturer was to become a part-owner in the Slovenian company. However, the deal fell through several months following the order with each side accusing the other for its failure.

Adria Airways’ receiver, Janez Pustatičnik, has said that anyone who pays the participation fee can take part in the auction at which the starting price for Adria’s whole business has been set at 45.000 euros. Mr Pustatičnik has said that at least two foreign companies will participate at the auction but he did not wish to reveal any names. “Let us be surprised”, Mr Pustatičnik said. On the other hand, Mr Evdokimov noted, “The auction price can go up a lot because the asking price is incredibly low. The average price for such certificates in Europe is 300.000 euros”. Slovenian businessman Joc Pečečnik, who is the founder of Interblock Gaming, has confirmed he will attend the auction.




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  1. Anonymous09:03

    The market has moved on, they should do the same.

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    1. Anonymous09:07

      Considering the interest and that two foreign companies have already paid the participation fee, it seems there is still a reason not to move on :)

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    2. The two Russian cell companies are only interested of putting some of the tens of SSjs currently parked in Russia to fly somewhere.
      The market in LJU has indeed moved on with other airlines picking up the traffic that JP carried.
      Just like the market in PRN picked up the market than Germania's collapse left.

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    3. ...shell companies...

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    4. Anonymous11:36

      Unfortunately it's not true - there are no real replacements of adria flights - first flight of LJU in the morning is 9:40 to IST and second 9.45 to BEG and if you need to fly for business you need fly out of KLU or TRS or GRZ 6.00

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    5. Anonymous13:01

      yes and with SUTT there are already confirmed morning departures, at least to FRA. and SUTT is 2 months away.

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    6. Anonymous13:29

      Yeah I think first LJU-FRA flight is around 7am.

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    7. Anonymous19:23

      Ok look! Adria statistically had about 50% of passengers carried for LJU in the last months of existance. But transfer passengers were counted inbound and outbound, so double. Thus practically Adria was carrying around 30% only. LJU has been down about 30% in the last three months, which proves LJU management did absolutely nothing but BS the media. Repulsive!

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    8. Ingvarsson20:32

      Swiss managed to come up with the worse departure times LJU-ZRH for SUTT...go figure.

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  2. Anonymous09:04

    Good luck but I think it will be difficult for it to work out.

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  3. Anonymous09:05

    I find it hilarious. They mention Barcelona and Milan because they want to connect onto Emirates' flights to the US.

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    1. Anonymous09:12

      Emirates does not fly to the US from Barcelona. It flies to Mexico City.

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  4. Anonymous09:07

    What do they mean by "weak" Lufthansa and Swiss.

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    1. Anonymous09:08

      He means that they have poor timetables from LJU and are flying with mall aircraft.

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    2. Anonymous09:17

      And their relatively high costs on such small planes.

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    3. Anonymous09:22

      The aircraft they fly to LJU are far more reliable than the Sukhois.

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    4. Anonymous09:44

      Luckily they don't operate any MAX birds into LJU. Or the B788 for that matter. Or A321neo.

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    5. Anonymous09:56

      If only all the airlines of the world new how much better the SSj is from the 787 or A321...
      Sadly they do not listen to the "experts" in aviation from the ExYu.
      I bet it some type of global conspiracy at work here.

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    6. Anonymous10:22

      Results speak for themselves. MAX second year grounded.

      But somehow when it''s American it turns out to be a good thing. ;)

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    7. Anonymous11:19

      MAX still has 10 times as many orders as SSJ.

      Boeing has a proven track with their aircraft, there 737 production line alone has produced over 10.500 aircraft in all those years. Sure, they have issues. But airlines are still ordering their aircraft, and IAG has even placed a MOU for MAX while it was grounded. We don't see airlines in the free market lining up to buy SSJ even at heavily subsidised prices, which tells a lot.

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    8. Anonymous11:27

      And what good are those orders when the plane is grounded? And it is grounded because Boeing wanted to save money by being cheap. Like you wrote, BA placed a MoU which is not an order dear, please be more clear in that regard. As for the B787 how many issues global airlines such as LO or DY have with it? Currently 3 to 4 B787s are parked in WAW and LO is forced to lease extra capacity.

      So please don't speak trash about these trash planes. MAX is a much bigger disaster and has killed more than SSJ ever will.

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    9. Anonymous11:43

      What exactly is problem with A321neo? Haven't heard anything, but flying it few days a week. Thank you!

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    10. Anonymous11:44

      Because order still show that airlines have confidence in the aircraft. And nowhere did I say IAG has placed an order, please read carefully again. It's an MOU. How much clearer would I have to write it?

      Most 787 issues at the moment are RR engine related and not so much Boeing's fault. 787 is the first airliner designed with modular pylon, enabling engine manufacturer change later in the life. Unfortunately, most airlines/lease companies are too tied in to their selected engine type with long-term contracts and such change would be more expensive.

      "MAX is a much bigger disaster and has killed more than SSJ ever will."

      Wow, you can predict the future. Might I get the winning lottery numbers for next week as well? Thanks.

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    11. Dejan12:07

      Out of 147 SSjs delivered there has been three hull losses already!
      There are another 25 white tales parked plus tens more who were returned by airlines and lessors.
      Plus SSjs belonging to Russian airlines who haven't flown for months for lack of spares and are being cannibalized to provide spare parts to those aircraft still flying.
      SSj has failed worse both commercially and operationally than every Tupolev, Yakovlev, Ilyushin and Antonov ever produced.

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    12. Anonymous12:36

      Maybe it's because it has Western parts?

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    13. Anonymous12:37

      MAX may have ten times more orders but it has already killed ten times more people than the SSJ in its relatively short service.

      I don't need a crystal ball to see that.

      @11:44

      "Most 787 issues at the moment are RR engine related and not so much Boeing's fault."

      Why aren't you equally eager to point out how SSJ issues are due to the French-produced engine parts and not Sukhoi's fault'?

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    14. Anonymous12:46

      Because airlines had a choice of engines when ordering B787, which is not the case with SSJ.

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    15. Anonymous12:53

      The SSJ issues are way bigger than just parts produced by Safran for their part of the engine.
      It has horrible reliability for all of its systems.
      And because of the very small fleet it doesn't make much economic sense for the various system suppliers to invest in producing parts for the SSj when they have far more profitable and large aircraft programs to go after.
      So the parts situation is not getting better in the future.

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    16. Anonymous13:38

      It is actually funny, nobody mentioned the Mexicans from Interjet. They seem to have a romantic affair with Sukoi (Сухой Суперджет).
      The aircraft is proudly displayed on their official website:

      https://www.interjet.com/en-ca/interjet-experience/flying-with-us/who-we-are

      They have a list of 22 aircraft and the specifications are quite good.

      Superjet 100
      The Superjet 100, is characterized for its accessibility in regional airports, light components and a low consuming fuel level. These aircrafts hold a capacity to transport up to 103 passengers, which Interjet has modified to a total of 93 passengers, with an exclusive interior design to offer you the best flight experience.

      The sole disadvantage is that it has 2 toilets when it should have at least 4.

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    17. Anonymous13:39

      Then why doesn't Boeing just provide different engines?

      SSJ issues didn't cause 400 deaths so far.

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    18. Anonymous13:53

      Oleg, you are making an even bigger joke out of yourself that you are already. Interjet only operates 4 out of 22 SSJs they have.

      Boeing is an aircraft manufacturer, not engine manufacturer. See the problem? The 787 is certified to be equipped with either RR or GE engines, but it is too expensive for airlines to bail out of contract with RR and buy GE engines.

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    19. Anonymous13:56

      Interjet :))
      Out of 22 planes, only 4-5 are in condition to fly. Rest of them was cannibalized for spare parts.
      https://simpleflying.com/interjet-sj100-fleet-fate/

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    20. Anonymous14:12

      Interjet is trying to get rid of their SSjs but nobody is willing to take them off their hands!
      They are close to bankruptcy because of this disaster of an aircraft.
      Why you pretend not knowing any of than Vladimir Vladimirovich?

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    21. Anonymous14:14

      I suggest you all change your glasses and see Sukhoi from another perspective.
      Interjet made up a story so they get more discount because it is a lowcoster. Old trick.
      The Russian project deserves a chance after nearly 12 years of its birth.

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    22. Anonymous15:14

      Anonymous at 14:14
      Ι suggest you get some self respect and start sending your CV around in order to get a proper job.
      Because what you are doing right now is just sad.

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    23. Anonymous17:02

      "Interjet made up a story so they get more discount because it is a lowcoster. Old trick."

      They would ground almost every SSJ to get a better discount on future orders? This would be very far-fetched even in Michael O'Leary's book of business tricks.

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  5. Anonymous09:07

    Lufthansa and Swiss are weak competition? Is this guy for real?

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    1. Anonymous09:09

      As I said above, he probably means that they have poor timetables from LJU and are flying with mall aircraft.

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    2. Anonymous09:09

      From what I heard they plan to compete with them by operating an all business class SSJ 100. Go figure.

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    3. Anonymous09:22

      SMFH!

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    4. Anonymous11:23

      Hahaha LH group weak. 2bn profit, 142m pax. Very weak.

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    5. Anonymous11:26

      Weak on routes from/to Ljubljana.

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    6. Anonymous11:34

      And how are they planning to compete without codeshares with LH?

      Or do you think you can fill 2-3 daily flights to FRA/MUC/ZRH/VIE just with P2P pax?

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  6. Anonymous09:08

    They do not seem as ambitious as the Chinese Investors who wanted to turn Maribor Airport into an intl. hub

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    1. Anonymous09:11

      Haha that turned out well...

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  7. JU520 BEGLAX09:09

    Not more than hot air..... not even worth publishing. Times are over. Some weird SLO corners with strange connections to Russia / UAE need some attention and probably need a project to launder money.

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    1. Anonymous13:09

      coomunist party still needs to place some of their staff closer to home :)

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  8. Anonymous09:10

    In the end I have a feeling these guys won't even participate in the tender. What I do find interesting is who are the other two foreign companies that will participate.

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    1. Anonymous09:13

      +1

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    2. Anonymous09:21

      Having that same feeling.

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  9. Anonymous09:14

    I hope they are successful and that Adria flies high again.

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  10. Anonymous09:15

    This does not sound feasible.

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    1. Anonymous09:35

      Stranger things have happened. Remember the Chinese at Maribor airport.

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  11. Anonymous09:15

    A start up with an all Sukhoi fleet... Ok...

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    1. Anonymous09:16

      Why not? What difference does it make if a start up has an all Boeing, all Airbus, all Embraer or all Sukhoi fleet?

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    2. Anonymous09:27

      Really anon at 09:16???
      You are really asking that?
      Contact every single airline not owned by the Russian state and they will tell you exactly what's wrong with it!

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  12. Anonymous09:15

    So the Sukhoi might have a brighter future...
    If the future JP operates them then this will inspire JU as well. Really good news for the superjet. Браво!

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    1. Anonymous09:17

      Yes, I'm sure they will be inspired.

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    2. Anonymous09:29

      I bet every other airline which flies to LJU would be delighted of having to compete with a carrier that only flies SSjs.
      It would be like a boxing match where your opponent has his arms tied behind his back and is also blindfolded.

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    3. Anonymous10:36

      Aeroflot doesn't seem blindfolded.

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    4. Anonymous10:40

      Aeroflot in allowed to operate many many more western aircraft than SSjs in order to compete.
      And it also receives massive subsidies from the Russian state.

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    5. Anonymous10:46

      ...and has dedicated pool of spare parts including engines just for them....and Russian leasing companies didn't want to be involved in last SSJ deal until they got buyback guaranties from Sukhoi...

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    6. Anonymous11:25

      I'm pretty sure Lufthansa is already pissing their pants. How in the world will they compete with airline, operating aircraft which are grounded most of the time?

      Tough times for LH.

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    7. Anonymous11:28

      Well they have experience from competing with airlines that have MAX LOL!!!!

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    8. Dejan11:54

      Has any airline that operated MAXes stopped flying? No.
      Was the MAX the only aircraft in their fleet? No.
      Are they getting compensated with millions of $$$ from Boeing? Yes.
      Is the new JP going to have another aircraft in its fleet to cover for the Sukhoi's horrible reliability? No.
      Is Sukhoi going to provide any compensation for the poor availability? No.
      So have a nice day Anon 11:28

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    9. Anonymous13:29

      Dejan, please...
      Why are you being so anti Sukhoi?
      When was the last time there was any issue with them? When?
      The official statistics indicate that there have been three hull loss accidents and 86 deaths as of June 2019 but the only significant crash was the one in Indonesia.
      There are currently 301 NET orders and Sukhoi had an incredible success in the Eurasia Show in 2018 with orders from S7, Iran Air Tours, Aseman Airlines, and Aero Mongolia.
      The most important one is the Sept 2018 SU order of 100 aircraft and will even offer busiess class.
      In case you missed the news:

      https://www.reuters.com/article/russia-aeroflot-sukhoi/russias-aeroflot-orders-100-sukhoi-superjets-idUSL5N1VW56F

      That said, this is the perfect moment for both future JP and JU to make a massive order and receive a hefty discount and even offer business class for its customers.

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    10. Anonymous13:41

      "When was the last time there was any issue with them? When?"

      Some quotes from the news:

      However, a frequent need for maintenance, owing to recurring technical faults has hurt Brussels Airlines operations and has left the airline frustrated with its wet-leasing deal. Just six month ago, the Belgian airline was forced to cancel 92 flights operated by the Superjet, over just a 22 day period.

      Mexico's Interjet has grounded more than two-thirds of its Sukhoi Superjet 100 fleet, with dozens of engines out of service as the airline remains locked in talks with Sukhoi over the withdrawal of the aircraft.

      In August 2018, Russian regional carrier Yakutia Airlines considered withdrawing their SSJs, after two were grounded because their engines were removed after 1,500-3,000 cycles, below the 7,000 specified, and no replacements were available.

      As of May 2019, Sukhoi has had trouble selling the Superjet and renewing leasing contracts outside of Russia because of reliability and service network issues. Unease with the SSJ's low reliability also spread to Russian operators. Yamal Airlines, the second-largest Russian SSJ operator, announced the cancellation of its order for 10 further SSJs, citing high servicing costs. Aeroflot's CEO reflected that the airline might never have ordered any SSJs had it not been under state control. Of 30-40 SSJs owned by Aeroflot, only 10 are reportedly usable at a time due to maintenance problems.

      Yeah, no problems. Best aircraft ever.

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    11. Dejan14:21

      At 13:29 Putinbot:
      I am "anti-Sukhoi" because unlike you I am free to express what I think instead of just posting whatever propaganda my employer tells me to.
      I am free to laugh at all your lies about the "incredible success" of an airliner that dozens of it are parked as white tails in Russian airports collecting rust and even more abandoned by the airlines and lessors that were foolish enough to order them!
      I am also laughing at your inability to respond to even one of the 5 points I made in my 11:54 post.
      And I am dreading the prospects of any airline who would try to operate a flight schedule with only SSjs in its fleet.
      So tell your employer that instead of investing in propaganda bots he should have done a whole lot better job at designing, producing and supporting this airliner.

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    12. Anonymous15:19

      Dejane, it is not about "propaganda" but pure facts.
      Going from 1 jet in 2008 to 301, 10 years later is a story for a smaller aircraft manufacturer.
      Even the CS series struggled with orders in the beginning until they were saved by Airbus.
      And now back to your "5 points":

      Has any airline that operated Sukhoi stopped flying? No.
      Is Sukhoi the only aircraft in their brand? Yes, because it is a younger company.
      Are carriers getting compensated with millions of $$$ from Sukhoi? Yes, similar to Boeing and this includes discounts and free maintenance if needed.
      Is the new JP going to have another aircraft in its fleet to cover for the Sukhoi's horrible reliability? JP does not need to have different aircraft because it is more expensive to maintain various manufacturers. Better stick to the LCC model and just use 1 aircraft type.
      LJU is located in the heart of Europe and the SSJ can reach LIS, SVX, CAI as it literally covers the whole continent.
      Is Sukhoi going to provide any compensation for the poor availability? Yes and there is no "poor availability" as you describe it. There are no delays in the orders and jets do not fly from the sky minutes after take off and killing people similar to other manufacturers.
      Other manufacturers also kept many lies of a poorly built and old fashioned product which is based on a design from the fifties.

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    13. Anonymous17:11

      " There are no delays in the orders"

      Have you ever asked yourself why? Supply = a lot, demand = zero, ergo no production delays. The poor availability goes for spare parts, which is still an issue with SSJ today.

      " jets do not fly from the sky minutes after take off and killing people similar to other manufacturers."

      737NG (7000+ deliveries) or A320ceo/neo (9200+ total deliveries) have this issues?

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    14. Anonymous21:46

      Since real freedom requires complete and as objective information as possible, let me supplement the information picture drawn here.
      On the reliability of SSJ aircraft. Christina Förster, CEO of Brussels Airlines, said, “SSJs are good planes, and they have no more technical problems than other planes”
      https://www.bruzz.be/economie/brussels-airlines-wil-af-van-sukhoi-superjets-2018-07-11
      And Brussels' internal report says the same thing - SSJ reliability between CRJ-900 and CRJ-1000
      But, Brussels considered it necessary to impose more stringent requirements on the new Russian aircraft than on others. "But this is a new type, and there is little experience with it, so if a problem arises, they will be grounded faster than other types." This means that with the same flight-safe malfunction, SSJs are forbidden to fly, while CRJs are allowed.

      Flight Disruptions. Here they cited data about the breakdown of 92 flights on SSJ. To complete the picture, I note that the same CityJet company for the same period disrupted more than 700 flights on CRJ for SAS.
      https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/sas-cancelled-700-flights-over-cityjet-linked-crewing-issues-1.3577622
      The reasons are common to all types - lack of pilots, mistakes in planning.

      Frequent engine repairs - yes, that were. But the engines did not fall apart in flight, unlike some other aircraft. To complete the picture, Air Baltic and Swiss airlines changed each engine on average twice in less than two years on A-220 aircraft.
      The real problem with the SSJ was the long waiting for parts and the long waiting for engine repairs. Now "Sukhoi" has worked hard to solve this problem - the engine repair capacity has been doubled, a large pool of engines has been formed to replace during repairing, a huge warehouse of spare parts has been created. Buyers of aircraft receive a large subsidy for the formation of their own warehouse (more than 1.5 million euros per 1 aircraft).
      These measures have yielded a positive result.
      Aeroflot receives the first aircrafts from a new order for 100 units.
      The aforementioned airline "Yakutia" also receives new boards
      "SeverstalAvia" Airlines has acquired 4 aircraft. "Alrosa" Airlines made an order. "Azimuth" Airlines received in 2019 3 new SSJ aircraft.
      The "Azimuth" airline fleet consists of 11 SSJ aircraft, which show an average daily flight of more than 9 hours throughout the year. This is a very high figure for regional aircraft.

      PS
      I am not Oleg :)
      And I do not work in the company "Sukhoi"

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    15. Anonymous04:39

      lol @ the PS.

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  13. Anonymous09:18

    Why is Evdokimov saying that the fares are very expensive and the connections are poor? Wasn't almost everyone saying how you can fly just about anywhere from LJU for 10 EUR now that Adria is gone?

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    1. Anonymous09:31

      Will Evdokimov be flying everyone from LJU for 10€???
      No?
      I though so.

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    2. Anonymous10:28

      Well, errr, I'm pretty sure Evdokimov won't be doing anything. He doesn't have any aviation experience and for sure he doesn't have a pilot's licence. So, no, he won't be flying anyone from LJU.

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    3. Anonymous10:42

      Who said he is a pilot?
      Are you making a straw man argument because you are out of logical reasons for JP's existence?

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    4. Anonymous15:59

      No. It was said: "Will Evdokimov be flying everyone from LJU for 10 EUR?". The reply was negative, since he doesn't have a licence and I'm pretty sure he won't be the CEO.

      And you're trying hard to justify Adria's bankruptcy.

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  14. Anonymous09:20

    I'll just leave this here...
    https://www.linkedin.com/posts/oleg-e-40151539_superjet-100-%D0%BD%D0%B0-56-%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB-%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%81%D1%8F-activity-6624015065228029952--Eb5

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    1. Anonymous09:21

      LOL

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    2. Anonymous09:22

      And this guy made it to Slovenian public TV.

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    3. all businesss cabin. all sukhois. a380 in slovenia. sounds reasonable!

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    4. Anonymous09:32

      SMFH
      That guy needs a psychiatric evaluation.

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    5. Anonymous09:53

      He also writes how they will compete against Swiss and Lufthansa because they will serve excellent wines...

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    6. Anonymous09:57

      That guy must be a troll!
      How on earth did they allow him on TV?

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    7. Anonymous10:04

      He is regularly posting here, with various usernames and as anonymous.
      Basically, if SSJ is mentioned in discussion he will be there.

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    8. 'barter trade' yeah.... red flags right there!

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    9. Anonymous10:43

      Q400
      +1

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  15. Anonymous09:26

    When you see its a Russian-UAE combination you know its fishy.

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    1. Anonymous09:59

      +1

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    2. Anonymous10:03

      When Adria went bankrupt there was also talks of Russian interest.

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  16. Anonymous09:28

    While I don't think these guys are serious, I don't see why some of you think the market has "moved on". It hasn't. There is a huge gap in the market. Having Swiss and LH flying once per day with poor departure times does not mean the market has moved on.

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    1. it has moved on. the most profitable routes are taken
      if somebody wants to take adria's place, it has to fight fiercely for those routes against well trenched competition, which is a very hard thing to do for a new company of that size

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    2. Anonymous09:56

      LJU-FRA is double daily from summer schedule.

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    3. Anonymous09:57

      LJU-FRA is already double daily. It has been double daily since the route started.

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    4. Anonymous10:32

      Well, if by moving on you mean other carriers have come to LJU then yes, it has moved on. But Ljubljana's connectivity is waaaay worse than it was. Despite what Adria haters are saying.

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    5. Anonymous10:46

      On the other hand I am willing to bet that LJU in 2020 will have more pax than 2019 despite losing all the transfer traffic that JP was carrying.

      Just my2cents

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    6. Anonymous14:08

      well LJU-FRA is from 187 euros 1 way in economy in January.
      Of course it's easy to compete with such fares- they are absolutely right.

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    7. Anonymous14:24

      LJU-FRA-LJU starts with 199€ return. For sure when you book on short notice and only one way it is pretty expensive.
      For example beginning of February 219€ for return flight.

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    8. Anonymous16:22

      In reality it starts from 245e return with extremely low availability.
      On average it's much more

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    9. Anonymous20:28

      Well, Lufthansa can't be expensive, can it? And here I was, thinking only Adria was overpriced. And everyone was saying that with Adria gone, Slovenes will be able to travel all around the world for peanuts. Don't tell me they were wrong?!

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    10. Anonymous08:34

      But for transfer via FRA to LJU, at least in my case, it is much cheaper.
      Last year I tried to fly Friedrichshafen - FRA - LJU and they wanted around 500€ return (checked also 4 weeks in advance). Now I've got it for 250€ return, booking 4 weeks in advance.

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  17. Anonymous09:36

    This will end up just like the Chinese at Maribor Airport. Remember how they were promising millions in investments and long haul flights to China.

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    1. Anonymous09:54

      I think so too. Thankfully, the state has nothing to loose now.

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  18. Anonymous09:44

    If Slovenian people will not give a cent for this project, why not? If it fails, who cares? If it is a success, great!

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    1. Anonymous09:51

      Exactly. Won't cost us a thing. They can do what ever they like.

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    2. Anonymous11:29

      +1000.

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    3. True! But if they are trying to secure some type of government based funding or sell some tickets online to just disappear as we have seen here before, then people have a right to be concerned.

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  19. Anonymous09:54

    Have they found someone from EU that is going to act as their representative?

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  20. Anonymous09:55

    I must say I agree that 45,000 euros seems like a very low price for the AOC and other licenses.

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    1. Anonymous11:30

      It's just a starting price. And after the buyer gets it, they would need to correct all the CAA findings, which will probably take a load of cash and couple of months.

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  21. Anonymous09:56

    Well flying five routes from LJU seems realistic to me. Don't see why it couldn't work.

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    1. Anonymous10:01

      I wonder which routes they might be.

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    2. Anonymous10:01

      Well they said - Barcelona, Milan, Frankfurt, Zurich and Munich.

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    3. Anonymous10:04

      Good luck with competing against Lufthansa and Swiss. Or as this guy calls them "weak" airlines.

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    4. Anonymous10:07

      I don't see why anyone could not compete against Lufthansa. It's hardly a stellar airline.

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    5. Anonymous10:55

      Anonymous at 10:07 is correct.
      It is easy to compete with Europe'e largest airline group. You just need to offer better wines, business class seats for flights between LJU and FRA and maybe even WiFi.
      That should do it!

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    6. Anonymous10:56

      Well if you are targeting only business customers then yes.

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    7. Petar11:40

      I agree with Anon 10:56
      Business class customers will ignore Star Alliance membership, mile programs, route network and connection possibilities in order to fly an essentially Russian start up airline who only operates SSJs.
      Just because they will have a wider business class seat and a better wine selection on flights that last no more than 1.5 hours.
      Anon 10:56 is definitely on to something!

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    8. Few years back someone started a business class configured only domestic airline in Australia using 737s.
      Had top catering, limo service to the airports and all the bells and whistles at reasonable prices. Don't think they made it a year with some of their flight carrying only a handful of passengers. Very difficult to sway people away from using their frequent flyer benefits.

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    9. Anonymous13:18

      indeed. remember folks: the employer pays the ticket receipt but the FF benefits go to the passengers FF card. so why switch.

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    10. Anonymous14:02

      Adria was a member of Miles and More program- they can do the same.
      And yes quality of chair and service is unimportant and prices for tickets also)

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    11. Anonymous17:37

      Employers are getting more and more stingy when it comes to travel benefits. In the company I work for (SLO), being affiliated to certain Frequent Flyer program is of no importance whatsoever. If you need to travel short haul, you can do so by choosing the most economical solutions, cheapest or the second cheapest. Even when there is a direct link from Ljubljana, it is mandatory to take into account departures from Trieste, Zagreb and Graz; For long haul, even Vienna and Venice.

      Regards,
      Eight.

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  22. Anonymous10:03

    Is there any prospect of some serious company participating in this auction?

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    1. Anonymous10:06

      One can only hope.

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    2. Anonymous10:07

      It certainly isn't these guys.

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  23. Anonymous10:06

    Well at least they plan to keep the Adria name.

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    1. Anonymous11:14

      They should really let it rest in peace.

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  24. When its January and they say they plan to launch in the summer, you know it ain't happening.

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  25. Anonymous10:42

    Let's wait and see what happens. It's certainly good to see that there is interest.

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    1. Anonymous11:32

      Yet another failed-from-the-start airline, that will collect naive people's ticket money and go bankrupt well too late, same as Adria.

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    2. Anonymous11:47

      Anon at 11:32
      +1000
      We are in the middle of January and already Ernest airlines of Italy-Albania, Atlas Jet of Turkey have stopped flying. And Britain's FlyBe is close to going bankrupt unless the government bails them out.

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    3. Petar12:46

      Also the Romanian government is bailing out RO with a subsidy/investment program that will reach 110 million Euros.
      But I am sure in these market conditions the Russian investors who will be flying SSjs with business class seats will somehow succeed!

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  26. Anonymous11:21

    I believe they are here just because ex-Adria signed LOI with them less than 1 year ago. 15 planes.
    Moreover staff was already educated in their center in Venice.
    No other airline willing to deal with them..
    Airbus blockade vs. Sukhoi is superb

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  27. Anonymous11:42

    That sounds like the "boutique airline" concept that the Abu Dhabi geniuses forced on ASL at the beginning.
    Only it is even worse!

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  28. Anonymous15:43

    Oleg is an idiot child who is internet troll, never accomplished a single deal in his life. It will go nowhere, his posts on Linkedin are laughable and he is viewed as a clown

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  29. Thank you, but NO thank you.

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  30. Anonymous16:24

    Definitely, this Oleg doesn't sound serious...But I just wonder why he is making the effort. By the way, I think there are 4 o 5 Superjets sitting on Belgrade.

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  31. Anonymous16:27

    So this about Oleg is no secret anymore. Russian press seem to have covered the issue and the affair with UAE too! Slovenian television also was involved.

    https://lenta.ru/news/2020/01/17/adria/

    Они рассматривают возможность покупки словенской Adria Airways, сообщает государственная телерадиовещательная корпорация Словении RTV.

    По ее данным, связанная с ГСС группа инвесторов собирается принять участие в аукционе по продаже Adria Airways. Компания испытывает серьезные финансовые трудности и находится в предбанкротном состоянии.

    Very interesting times ahead....

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  32. Anonymous16:50

    Oleg Evdokimov also wanted to be involved in Jet Airways rescue as turnaround expert :))

    https://psuwatch.com/jet-airways-lenders-start-reaching-out-to-unsolicited-bidders/

    https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/economy/logistics/darwin-platform-group-sbi-caps-discuss-unsolicited-bid-for-jet-airways/article27135573.ece

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  33. Lets hope finally Sukhois arrive and Adria brand saved - not only russian planes and money,there should be big support from other investors including the state which few months ago calculating on subsiding foreign carriers to fly LJLJ on "important" routes.These SSJs are far better than most western built planes on its class and considering the maintenance centers are now operating in Italy and Belgrade (soon) there is no need to be worried about it.....

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    1. Anonymous20:44

      Oleg, how many usernames you have?

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    2. Anonymous22:29

      If these "SSJs are far better than most western built planes" of their class, why is the entire SSJ project a business failure? And why have several airlines that have made the plunge now gotten rid of them?

      But the bigger question is, why on Earth should the State be "investing" in such a risky (to put it mildly) venture? If private investors want to risk their money, fine; we'll all wish them luck. But to play these games with taxpayers' money is downright irresponsible -- and would, even if the project is halfway successful, once again lead to major market distortions.

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    3. Anonymous05:52

      Adria's brand is dead. The damage done by 4K completely mishandling operations in 2018 and 2019 made a lot people outside of Slovenia say "never again with Adria", even on public TV.

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  34. Anonymous21:14

    Poor russians, they are desperate to force this crap of an aircraft on anyone who is in trouble.

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    1. Indeed. Which is weird since they believe that "SSJs are far better than most western built planes" :)

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    2. Anonymous08:31

      This is obvious to anyone who involved in aviation.
      But it's a lot of people in the west who can't agree and accept Russian supremacy in the field of technology.
      Anyhow I keep hopes that Russians will find the way to implement Superjet around)

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    3. Anonymous11:16

      You really have to laugh when you read some comments here.

      First, Sukhoi is a great aircraft because it has a lot of Western parts. Next second, it's all fault of a French engine manufacturer. And finally, Russia is supreme in the field of technology.

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  35. Anonymous06:26

    Good ole Russian money laundering :)

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  36. Anonymous11:09

    Focus should be on interest of Slovenian people.
    Russian plan is to offer Slovenians and Austrians cheap and comfortable flights for several destinations.
    Even heavy traffic ( 50000 per year) between USA and Slovenia were taking in account.
    Option to fly from LJU to NYC with Emirates A380 via Milan sounds great for me.
    Hopefully with special fare.

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    1. Anonymous15:14

      Finally, one that can see the big picture

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    2. Anonymous15:15

      Finally, one that can see the big picture

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