Investors from Russia and the United Arab Emirates, who are linked to aircraft manufacturer Sukhoi, have formulated plans to relaunch Adria Airways if they are successful in acquiring the remains of the company’s business at an auction this Thursday. "Adria Airways’ certificates allow us to operate not only out of Ljubljana but from any airport in Europe. The Slovenian market is very interesting. There is no real competition. Currently, it is only possible to fly to just ten destinations and the fares are very expensive”, Oleg Evdokimov, a representative of the Russian investors told Slovenia’s public broadcaster RTV SLO. The carrier would operate an all-Sukhoi Superjet 100 fleet.
Under the plan, Adria's brand name would be retained, while the company would employ some 150 people, including thirty pilots. The carrier would attempt to fly to at least five destinations throughout the year, including Milan and Barcelona. “We plan to start in the summer with the primary task of providing flights for Slovenians and Austrians (from Villach and Klagenfurt) to primary vacation destinations. We plan to serve these routes with SSJ aircraft. The second goal is to compete with "weak" competitors such as Lufthansa and Swiss on three important destinations from Ljubljana: Zurich, Munich and Frankfurt”, Mr Evdokimov said. In 2018, Adria ordered fifteen Superjet 100 aircraft, while the Russian manufacturer was to become a part-owner in the Slovenian company. However, the deal fell through several months following the order with each side accusing the other for its failure.
Adria Airways’ receiver, Janez Pustatičnik, has said that anyone who pays the participation fee can take part in the auction at which the starting price for Adria’s whole business has been set at 45.000 euros. Mr Pustatičnik has said that at least two foreign companies will participate at the auction but he did not wish to reveal any names. “Let us be surprised”, Mr Pustatičnik said. On the other hand, Mr Evdokimov noted, “The auction price can go up a lot because the asking price is incredibly low. The average price for such certificates in Europe is 300.000 euros”. Slovenian businessman Joc Pečečnik, who is the founder of Interblock Gaming, has confirmed he will attend the auction.
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If the future JP operates them then this will inspire JU as well. Really good news for the superjet. Браво!
The market in LJU has indeed moved on with other airlines picking up the traffic that JP carried.
Just like the market in PRN picked up the market than Germania's collapse left.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/oleg-e-40151539_superjet-100-%D0%BD%D0%B0-56-%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB-%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%81%D1%8F-activity-6624015065228029952--Eb5
You are really asking that?
Contact every single airline not owned by the Russian state and they will tell you exactly what's wrong with it!
It would be like a boxing match where your opponent has his arms tied behind his back and is also blindfolded.
No?
I though so.
if somebody wants to take adria's place, it has to fight fiercely for those routes against well trenched competition, which is a very hard thing to do for a new company of that size
That guy needs a psychiatric evaluation.
Sadly they do not listen to the "experts" in aviation from the ExYu.
I bet it some type of global conspiracy at work here.
How on earth did they allow him on TV?
Basically, if SSJ is mentioned in discussion he will be there.
But somehow when it''s American it turns out to be a good thing. ;)
And it also receives massive subsidies from the Russian state.
Are you making a straw man argument because you are out of logical reasons for JP's existence?
+1
Just my2cents
It is easy to compete with Europe'e largest airline group. You just need to offer better wines, business class seats for flights between LJU and FRA and maybe even WiFi.
That should do it!
Boeing has a proven track with their aircraft, there 737 production line alone has produced over 10.500 aircraft in all those years. Sure, they have issues. But airlines are still ordering their aircraft, and IAG has even placed a MOU for MAX while it was grounded. We don't see airlines in the free market lining up to buy SSJ even at heavily subsidised prices, which tells a lot.
Moreover staff was already educated in their center in Venice.
No other airline willing to deal with them..
Airbus blockade vs. Sukhoi is superb
Tough times for LH.
So please don't speak trash about these trash planes. MAX is a much bigger disaster and has killed more than SSJ ever will.
Or do you think you can fill 2-3 daily flights to FRA/MUC/ZRH/VIE just with P2P pax?
Business class customers will ignore Star Alliance membership, mile programs, route network and connection possibilities in order to fly an essentially Russian start up airline who only operates SSJs.
Just because they will have a wider business class seat and a better wine selection on flights that last no more than 1.5 hours.
Anon 10:56 is definitely on to something!
Only it is even worse!
Most 787 issues at the moment are RR engine related and not so much Boeing's fault. 787 is the first airliner designed with modular pylon, enabling engine manufacturer change later in the life. Unfortunately, most airlines/lease companies are too tied in to their selected engine type with long-term contracts and such change would be more expensive.
"MAX is a much bigger disaster and has killed more than SSJ ever will."
Wow, you can predict the future. Might I get the winning lottery numbers for next week as well? Thanks.
+1000
We are in the middle of January and already Ernest airlines of Italy-Albania, Atlas Jet of Turkey have stopped flying. And Britain's FlyBe is close to going bankrupt unless the government bails them out.
Was the MAX the only aircraft in their fleet? No.
Are they getting compensated with millions of $$$ from Boeing? Yes.
Is the new JP going to have another aircraft in its fleet to cover for the Sukhoi's horrible reliability? No.
Is Sukhoi going to provide any compensation for the poor availability? No.
So have a nice day Anon 11:28
There are another 25 white tales parked plus tens more who were returned by airlines and lessors.
Plus SSjs belonging to Russian airlines who haven't flown for months for lack of spares and are being cannibalized to provide spare parts to those aircraft still flying.
SSj has failed worse both commercially and operationally than every Tupolev, Yakovlev, Ilyushin and Antonov ever produced.
Had top catering, limo service to the airports and all the bells and whistles at reasonable prices. Don't think they made it a year with some of their flight carrying only a handful of passengers. Very difficult to sway people away from using their frequent flyer benefits.
I don't need a crystal ball to see that.
@11:44
"Most 787 issues at the moment are RR engine related and not so much Boeing's fault."
Why aren't you equally eager to point out how SSJ issues are due to the French-produced engine parts and not Sukhoi's fault'?
But I am sure in these market conditions the Russian investors who will be flying SSjs with business class seats will somehow succeed!
It has horrible reliability for all of its systems.
And because of the very small fleet it doesn't make much economic sense for the various system suppliers to invest in producing parts for the SSj when they have far more profitable and large aircraft programs to go after.
So the parts situation is not getting better in the future.
Why are you being so anti Sukhoi?
When was the last time there was any issue with them? When?
The official statistics indicate that there have been three hull loss accidents and 86 deaths as of June 2019 but the only significant crash was the one in Indonesia.
There are currently 301 NET orders and Sukhoi had an incredible success in the Eurasia Show in 2018 with orders from S7, Iran Air Tours, Aseman Airlines, and Aero Mongolia.
The most important one is the Sept 2018 SU order of 100 aircraft and will even offer busiess class.
In case you missed the news:
https://www.reuters.com/article/russia-aeroflot-sukhoi/russias-aeroflot-orders-100-sukhoi-superjets-idUSL5N1VW56F
That said, this is the perfect moment for both future JP and JU to make a massive order and receive a hefty discount and even offer business class for its customers.
The aircraft is proudly displayed on their official website:
https://www.interjet.com/en-ca/interjet-experience/flying-with-us/who-we-are
They have a list of 22 aircraft and the specifications are quite good.
Superjet 100
The Superjet 100, is characterized for its accessibility in regional airports, light components and a low consuming fuel level. These aircrafts hold a capacity to transport up to 103 passengers, which Interjet has modified to a total of 93 passengers, with an exclusive interior design to offer you the best flight experience.
The sole disadvantage is that it has 2 toilets when it should have at least 4.
SSJ issues didn't cause 400 deaths so far.
Some quotes from the news:
However, a frequent need for maintenance, owing to recurring technical faults has hurt Brussels Airlines operations and has left the airline frustrated with its wet-leasing deal. Just six month ago, the Belgian airline was forced to cancel 92 flights operated by the Superjet, over just a 22 day period.
Mexico's Interjet has grounded more than two-thirds of its Sukhoi Superjet 100 fleet, with dozens of engines out of service as the airline remains locked in talks with Sukhoi over the withdrawal of the aircraft.
In August 2018, Russian regional carrier Yakutia Airlines considered withdrawing their SSJs, after two were grounded because their engines were removed after 1,500-3,000 cycles, below the 7,000 specified, and no replacements were available.
As of May 2019, Sukhoi has had trouble selling the Superjet and renewing leasing contracts outside of Russia because of reliability and service network issues. Unease with the SSJ's low reliability also spread to Russian operators. Yamal Airlines, the second-largest Russian SSJ operator, announced the cancellation of its order for 10 further SSJs, citing high servicing costs. Aeroflot's CEO reflected that the airline might never have ordered any SSJs had it not been under state control. Of 30-40 SSJs owned by Aeroflot, only 10 are reportedly usable at a time due to maintenance problems.
Yeah, no problems. Best aircraft ever.
Boeing is an aircraft manufacturer, not engine manufacturer. See the problem? The 787 is certified to be equipped with either RR or GE engines, but it is too expensive for airlines to bail out of contract with RR and buy GE engines.
Out of 22 planes, only 4-5 are in condition to fly. Rest of them was cannibalized for spare parts.
https://simpleflying.com/interjet-sj100-fleet-fate/
And yes quality of chair and service is unimportant and prices for tickets also)
Of course it's easy to compete with such fares- they are absolutely right.
They are close to bankruptcy because of this disaster of an aircraft.
Why you pretend not knowing any of than Vladimir Vladimirovich?
Interjet made up a story so they get more discount because it is a lowcoster. Old trick.
The Russian project deserves a chance after nearly 12 years of its birth.
I am "anti-Sukhoi" because unlike you I am free to express what I think instead of just posting whatever propaganda my employer tells me to.
I am free to laugh at all your lies about the "incredible success" of an airliner that dozens of it are parked as white tails in Russian airports collecting rust and even more abandoned by the airlines and lessors that were foolish enough to order them!
I am also laughing at your inability to respond to even one of the 5 points I made in my 11:54 post.
And I am dreading the prospects of any airline who would try to operate a flight schedule with only SSjs in its fleet.
So tell your employer that instead of investing in propaganda bots he should have done a whole lot better job at designing, producing and supporting this airliner.
For example beginning of February 219€ for return flight.
Ι suggest you get some self respect and start sending your CV around in order to get a proper job.
Because what you are doing right now is just sad.
Going from 1 jet in 2008 to 301, 10 years later is a story for a smaller aircraft manufacturer.
Even the CS series struggled with orders in the beginning until they were saved by Airbus.
And now back to your "5 points":
Has any airline that operated Sukhoi stopped flying? No.
Is Sukhoi the only aircraft in their brand? Yes, because it is a younger company.
Are carriers getting compensated with millions of $$$ from Sukhoi? Yes, similar to Boeing and this includes discounts and free maintenance if needed.
Is the new JP going to have another aircraft in its fleet to cover for the Sukhoi's horrible reliability? JP does not need to have different aircraft because it is more expensive to maintain various manufacturers. Better stick to the LCC model and just use 1 aircraft type.
LJU is located in the heart of Europe and the SSJ can reach LIS, SVX, CAI as it literally covers the whole continent.
Is Sukhoi going to provide any compensation for the poor availability? Yes and there is no "poor availability" as you describe it. There are no delays in the orders and jets do not fly from the sky minutes after take off and killing people similar to other manufacturers.
Other manufacturers also kept many lies of a poorly built and old fashioned product which is based on a design from the fifties.
And you're trying hard to justify Adria's bankruptcy.
On average it's much more
https://lenta.ru/news/2020/01/17/adria/
Они рассматривают возможность покупки словенской Adria Airways, сообщает государственная телерадиовещательная корпорация Словении RTV.
По ее данным, связанная с ГСС группа инвесторов собирается принять участие в аукционе по продаже Adria Airways. Компания испытывает серьезные финансовые трудности и находится в предбанкротном состоянии.
Very interesting times ahead....
https://psuwatch.com/jet-airways-lenders-start-reaching-out-to-unsolicited-bidders/
https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/economy/logistics/darwin-platform-group-sbi-caps-discuss-unsolicited-bid-for-jet-airways/article27135573.ece
They would ground almost every SSJ to get a better discount on future orders? This would be very far-fetched even in Michael O'Leary's book of business tricks.
Have you ever asked yourself why? Supply = a lot, demand = zero, ergo no production delays. The poor availability goes for spare parts, which is still an issue with SSJ today.
" jets do not fly from the sky minutes after take off and killing people similar to other manufacturers."
737NG (7000+ deliveries) or A320ceo/neo (9200+ total deliveries) have this issues?
Regards,
Eight.
On the reliability of SSJ aircraft. Christina Förster, CEO of Brussels Airlines, said, “SSJs are good planes, and they have no more technical problems than other planes”
https://www.bruzz.be/economie/brussels-airlines-wil-af-van-sukhoi-superjets-2018-07-11
And Brussels' internal report says the same thing - SSJ reliability between CRJ-900 and CRJ-1000
But, Brussels considered it necessary to impose more stringent requirements on the new Russian aircraft than on others. "But this is a new type, and there is little experience with it, so if a problem arises, they will be grounded faster than other types." This means that with the same flight-safe malfunction, SSJs are forbidden to fly, while CRJs are allowed.
Flight Disruptions. Here they cited data about the breakdown of 92 flights on SSJ. To complete the picture, I note that the same CityJet company for the same period disrupted more than 700 flights on CRJ for SAS.
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/sas-cancelled-700-flights-over-cityjet-linked-crewing-issues-1.3577622
The reasons are common to all types - lack of pilots, mistakes in planning.
Frequent engine repairs - yes, that were. But the engines did not fall apart in flight, unlike some other aircraft. To complete the picture, Air Baltic and Swiss airlines changed each engine on average twice in less than two years on A-220 aircraft.
The real problem with the SSJ was the long waiting for parts and the long waiting for engine repairs. Now "Sukhoi" has worked hard to solve this problem - the engine repair capacity has been doubled, a large pool of engines has been formed to replace during repairing, a huge warehouse of spare parts has been created. Buyers of aircraft receive a large subsidy for the formation of their own warehouse (more than 1.5 million euros per 1 aircraft).
These measures have yielded a positive result.
Aeroflot receives the first aircrafts from a new order for 100 units.
The aforementioned airline "Yakutia" also receives new boards
"SeverstalAvia" Airlines has acquired 4 aircraft. "Alrosa" Airlines made an order. "Azimuth" Airlines received in 2019 3 new SSJ aircraft.
The "Azimuth" airline fleet consists of 11 SSJ aircraft, which show an average daily flight of more than 9 hours throughout the year. This is a very high figure for regional aircraft.
PS
I am not Oleg :)
And I do not work in the company "Sukhoi"
But the bigger question is, why on Earth should the State be "investing" in such a risky (to put it mildly) venture? If private investors want to risk their money, fine; we'll all wish them luck. But to play these games with taxpayers' money is downright irresponsible -- and would, even if the project is halfway successful, once again lead to major market distortions.
But it's a lot of people in the west who can't agree and accept Russian supremacy in the field of technology.
Anyhow I keep hopes that Russians will find the way to implement Superjet around)
Last year I tried to fly Friedrichshafen - FRA - LJU and they wanted around 500€ return (checked also 4 weeks in advance). Now I've got it for 250€ return, booking 4 weeks in advance.
Russian plan is to offer Slovenians and Austrians cheap and comfortable flights for several destinations.
Even heavy traffic ( 50000 per year) between USA and Slovenia were taking in account.
Option to fly from LJU to NYC with Emirates A380 via Milan sounds great for me.
Hopefully with special fare.
First, Sukhoi is a great aircraft because it has a lot of Western parts. Next second, it's all fault of a French engine manufacturer. And finally, Russia is supreme in the field of technology.