The Croatian Minister for Tourism, Gari Cappelli, has said the country is looking to secure flights from four far away markets in the coming period and is in talks with a number of carriers. These include Japan, China, South Korea and the United States. Speaking to the "Globus" weekly, Mr Cappelli, said, "One of our main goals is to improve Croatia's air connectivity. The establishment of new flights is crucial to increasing the number of arrivals, especially from far away markets. We are particularly focusing on Japan, with which we recently signed a bilateral Air Service Agreement, but also China, South Korea and the United States, which all account for a growing number of tourists". Currently, Korean Air and Japan's ANA serve Croatia through summer charters to Zagreb and Dubrovnik respectively.
The Croatian government has authorised the Minister for Sea, Transport and Infrastructure, Oleg Butković, to commence talks with his Japanese counterpart over the establishment of scheduled flights between Zagreb and Tokyo. Korean Air has been granted approval by the country's Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport, which allocates air transport rights on an annual basis upon request, to operate up to five weekly scheduled services to Croatia this year. The Korean carrier may or may not exercise those rights, although the airline recently said it was exploring opportunities to expand its presence in the country. Its long haul low cost subsidiary, Jin Air, previously confirmed it would launch operations between Seoul and Zagreb in 2019.
On the other hand, the Chinese Ambassador to Croatia recently emphasised the need for the establishment of nonstop flights between the two counties in order to attract more tourists. "Now is the time for these services to begin", he said. Furthermore, Croatia has intensified talks with airlines and tour operators for the launch of nonstop flights to the United States. Mr Capelli previously said services between Croatia and the US would begin this year on a seasonal summer basis, before being upgraded to year-round operations in 2019. At the time he noted, "We are in serious negotiations over the introduction of year-long flights from Croatia to New York, most likely from Zagreb and Dubrovnik, even from Split".
The Minister for Tourism noted that several years ago only a small fraction of tourists holidaying in Croatia arrived by plane, with that figure growing to 20% this year. The Ministry has launched a four million euro project entitled "Positioning Croatia as a airline destination", with plans to double its budget next year. "The project aims to attract carriers from far away markets", Mr Cappelli said.
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Really hope it will materialize one day... some day.
Norwegian is overstretched so that's another no. United will not look at ZAG before flying to VIE first.
Maaaaybe AA from PHL but that's such a strech that it's funny to think about it.
What do they do with this money?
You really make my day funny! Go on! :)
It's more of the same: we hope, we negotiate, we discuss ...
Another summer seasons has come and gone without those promised flights from the US or Asia.
Air Canada Rouge entered the market only because they saw how successful Transat was. In other words, Air Transat is the only carrier to have really taken a chance on the market here.
These Koreans are annoying me. They got the rights but now they are too busy exploring opportunities.
7 pw Emirates
4 pw Toronto by Air Canada
2 pw Toronto by Air Transat + Montreal on few flights
+ Iberia, Brussels, CSA, KLM, LOT, Swiss, Silver, El Al, Aegean, Norwegian, new routes on Eurowings, 10 new Croatia Airlines routes + much more flights on Qatar, Lufthansa, Croatia, Trade Air...
Just wait few days.
last anon
Aegean airlines - which is almost 4 times bigger than OU - doesn't fly long haul nor does it intend on doing so, because it would be such a drain and strain on their resources, despite having a significant short haul network.
They will be lucky to stay alive in the coming years, let alone think about such a foolish endeavour.
Dream on ....
Also, most of those you listed are seasonal with some like SN and OK reversing their decision to fly year-round.
It's a mixed bag of results.
- 2 per day to Munich + 2 per day by Croatia = 4
- 2 per day to Frankfurt + 3 per day Croatia = 5
OK is not seasonal as it will fly all year this winter. It is not true that "most of listed are seasonal". Here is the fact:
- all year new routes:
Iberia
ČSA
KLM
LOT
Aegean
Norwegian
Emirates
some of Croatia new routes
seasonal:
Brussels
Swiss
El Al
Air Canada
Air Transat
most of Croatia new routes
As you can see it is not "most".
As you can see also Air Canada Rouge and Air Transat does not fly to Vienna but still flies to Zagreb. On same patters there is possibility that United would choose Zagreb instead of Vienna.
Pula:
Dusseldorf, Zagreb, Zadar, Split, Osijek
Rijeka:
Cologne/Bonn, Osijek, Split-Dubrovnik
Zadar:
Pula, Zagreb
Split:
Frankfurt, Munich, Rome, Cologne, Dusseldorf, Stuttgart, Zagreb, Dubrovnik, Pula-Osijek, Rijeka-Osijek
Dubrovnik:
London, Madrid, Istanbul, Barcelona, Rome, Frankfurt, Zagreb, Split-Rijeka-Osijek
Osijek:
Zagreb, Rijeka-Split-Dubrovni, Pula-Split
Zagreb:
more all year flights: Madrid, Prague, Athens, Dusseldorf, Stockholm, Barcelona, Lisbon, Mostar)
Since then a few projects worth hundreds of millions of Euro's have been awarded to Chinese based companies and Rimac is making a factory in China worth a few hundred million euro's too. And you also have the decent amount of off season Chinese tourist numbers which keep going up.
Zagreb airport has steady increase of 6 do 12% per year without LCC, only on legacy carriers. LCC in Zagreb is more than modest (just 8 routes from 3 airlines). When Zagreb will open to LCC (and that will happen sooner or later) it will have huge jump of several hundred thousands passengers. Something Skopje, Belgrade, Split, Dubrovnik, Zadar, Tuzla... already done.
I wonder who will get the most and what is a portion for EK?
Or we shall continue reading that there was no subsidizing and that all new airlines would fly to ZAG based on purely increased demand?
especially now with peljesac bridge... there is demand for year round
Do you know if EK was "motivated" on the same way to start flying to ZAG?
According to one of their earlier statements it could have happened.
Or tourism developed in Croatia starting from EK arrival to ZAG?
Meanwhile more realistic airports around such as LJU, BNX, OSI... are attracting airlines locals actually need.
And you've lost any credibility with "more realistic airports".
Should we suppose that no similiar action was done regarding to EK? Sure.
Or maybe EK would not have paid attention on Croatian market (like it doesn't on any other Ex-Yu market, even no that SJJ has 3x daily DXB with FlyDubai) without enough "motivation".
This must itch you so bad.
Have a nice day
You're just trolling now!!! I mean you troll all the time it seems.
Munich - Zagreb distance is barely 400km, there's a high speed rail connection and motorway all the way to Zagreb from Munich, you could literally be in Munich in less than 4 hours and once Schengen Area comes in to effect, with in 3 hours.
The fact Lufthansa flies out of Munich with E195/CRJ900 twice daily for route that is so close is a good think, the fact it flew only once a day beforehand, with B737 300 (before Boeing fleet was retired)
Out of Frankfurt, Lufthansa mainline flies twice daily with A320/A319 year round.
Zagreb is top 20 destination for Lufthansa out of Frankfurt and Munich, and Lufthansa will only increase number of flights to Zagreb.
I'll admit one thing though, I do miss EasyJet in Zagreb, they should be enticed and replace MonarchAir on flights to LGW, Birmingham, Manchester and Edinburgh.
Hope they return to Zagreb soon, clearly there's demand for flights as Monarch was doing really well on Manchester and LGW route.
Air Canada will add its designator code and flights numbers onto several of Croatia Airlines' domestic flights this summer season. It comes in the run-up to its subsidiary, Air Canada Rouge, launching nonstop services from Toronto to the Croatian capital this June. The Canadian carrier will begin codesharing on Croatia Airlines' flights from Zagreb to Dubrovnik, Split and Zadar, as well as between Pula and Zadar. The two Star Alliance member airlines already have a wide-ranging codeshare agreement in place. Air Canada has its flight numbers on services from Zagreb to Amsterdam, Brussels, Copenhagen, London Heathrow, Paris and Zurich operated by Croatia Airlines, as well as from Dubrovnik to Paris and Rome and from Split to London, Paris, Rome and Zurich. In return, Croatia Airlines codeshares on Air Canada's services from Toronto to Amsterdam, Copenhagen, London, Paris and Zurich, from Montreal to Brussels, London and Paris, as well as from Calgary, Halifax and Vancouver to London.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g294453-i1554-k11378020-Air_Canada_to_start_Croatia_domestic_codeshare-Croatia.html
Marketing and PR budget to promote Croatia in South East Asia, US, Japan, S. Korea and China.
The marketing strategy costs loads of dosh. Normally €500 000 year long campaign with a PR firm gives you only limited exposure, if Croatian government has secured €8 million for these markets, say Japan, US, China and S. Korea, they have long term strategy to promote Croatia as a long haul destination.
Zagreb airport itself offers good incentives for all carriers who start to fly to Zagreb, the incentives are spread over first 3 years and help new carriers establish their foothold on the market.
We discussed here that fact United is not flying to Vienna is not condition for Zagreb, as it was not for Air Transat and Air Canada. For sure United has its priorities and Zagreb, for sure, is not one of those. But it can have flights before Vienna, it is real.
P.S.
I would always say United will start flights before Air Canada, especially before Emirates. But, as we can see, Emirates and Air Canada did rush. So, everything is possible.
Air Serbia is heavily propped up by Serbian government, it already owes to taxpayers over €450 million, could be €600 million, need to look at the latest figures.
Air Serbia hasn't contributed to Serbian budget with any tax, since it was created.
2 flights per week to USA, would be benefit, but for sure is not existential, as there are so good options for transfer via FRA (5 times per day), MUC (4 per day), VIE (4 per day), CDG (2 per day), AMS (2 per day), ZRH (2 per day), BRU (1,5 per day), IST (1,5 per day), LHR (1,5 per day), CPH (1 per day), WAW (1,5 per day), MAD, PRG, SVO, FCO, LIS, BCN...
Anyhow one can see that there are more all year flights, and even Emirates just one year after they start route increase frequencies from 5 to 7 per week.
Turkey, Tunis and Egypt are back in the game so they took away some of the tourists that went to Spain, Croatia or Portugal last year. That's why Split had no growth and Zadar actually had a 5% drop.
Btw there are no year-round flights to Stockholm.
A fact is that this year SKP will have more A321s than ZAG. I wouldn't be surprised if this autumn/winter SKP has more passengers than ZAG. Difference is down to just 200.000 passengers despite PRN being next door!!!
It is not a subsidy, it is a marketing budget to promote Croatia as a long haul destination. You need to have a market before you can see airlines coming.
Clearly there is a market,
visitor projection for 2018.
China: 225 000 (middle class+ population 330 million)
Japan: 180 000 (population of 128 million)
S. Korea: 500 000 (population of 51 million)
USA: 575 000 (population of 321 million)
Canada: 200 000 (population 37 million)
Brazil: 80 000 (middle class+ population of 80 million)
India: 90 000(middle class+ population of 260 million)
Taiwan: 150 000 (population of 25 million)
Australia: 250 000 (population of 25 million)
You can see market potential especially in China, Japan and US.
Although I think Croatia should promote itself in Brazil, Argentina, Chile and Mexico. I know in Argentina and Chile most people associate Croatia with the wealthiest industrialist in these two countries, and that might be a bad thing, but perhaps country can try to promote itself and show the real face.
Peter is using a spreadsheet to see who is coming, how many new flights are being announced and who is departing, based on that he tracks number of new carriers and potential pax from available seats on the route.
However, there's always a a charter market, seasonal charter and load factor, which in Zagreb's case is growing at 3-5% per year.
You add these and suddenly numbers are not so bad.
Also basing entire year on April performance is silly and childish. Zadar always had ping pong numbers, almost as bad as Rijeka Airport.
Split isn't slowing down, it had a decent growth this year, and will continue to do so.
2020 and onward where Split airport I expect will have less spectacular growth.
I expect Zagreb airport will handle around 3.45 million pax this year, Split 3.08 million, Dubrovnik 2.75 million, Pula 720 000, Zadar 650 000.
Egypt, Turkey, Tunis and so on, do not take travelers from Croatia, as Croatia is growing at steady rate of between 5% and 8% yoy since 2000.
Also now a large number of visitors to Croatia come from Asia and North America, meaning Croatia is becoming very attractive destination for non-European visitors.
Croatia will soon be in top 20 destinations for US Visitors, figures for 2017:
Mexico - 22.5 million
Canada - 8.5 million
United Kingdom - 3.25 million
Dominican Republic - 3.1 million
France - 2.85 million
Italy - 2.75 million
Germany - 2.55 million
Jamaica - 2.25 million
Spain - 2.1 million
People’s Republic of China - 1.8 million
Bahamas - 1.65 million
India - 1.6 million
Costa Rica - 1.45 million
Japan - 1.4 million
Ireland - 1.25 million
Netherlands - 1.11 million
Switzerland - 920 000
Austria - 870 000
Philippines - 817 000
South Korea - 735 000
Colombia - 690 000
Russia - 665 000
Greece - 640 000
Israel - 605 000
Taiwan - 541 000
Croatia 475 000
Australia - 497 000
SEOUL-ZAGREB, Korean
tri puta tjedno od 1.9.
cjelogodišnja (i zimi)
više detalja na:
https://tangosix.rs/2018/29/05/ekskluzivno-korean-pokrece-liniju-seoul-zagreb/
KOREAN to Zagreb 3 flights per week from 1st September:
https://tangosix.rs/2018/29/05/ekskluzivno-korean-pokrece-liniju-seoul-zagreb/
BRAVO HRVATSKA!
"Istim će Zagreb od rujna (septembra) imati čak 16 tjednih letova na četiri linije i sa četiri prijevoznika (Emirates, Korean, Air Transat, Air Canada Rouge) sa širokotrupcima (za Seoul, Dubai, Toronto i Montreal). Svakog dana tako će u Zagreb slijetati po dva širokotrupna aviona, osim srijede i četvrtka kada će ih biti 3. Korean će koristiti širokoptrupni gate 8, obzirom da Emirates odlazi 20 minuta prije dolaska aviona iz Seoula. Zimi će Zagreb imati 10 širokotrupnih letova. Ovo je i druga svjetska kompanija koja će nuditi vrhunsku prvu klasu na letovima za Zagreb"
The main reason Emirates came to Zagreb was because of the increased number of Asians coming to Croatia many of which like to use premium products like business and first class. Both these products offered by Emirates have been doing really well on flights to Zagreb.
Emirates (Dubai) 7pw - year round
Korean Air (Seoul) 3pw - year round
Air Transat (Toronto) 2pw - seasonal
Air Canada Rogue (Toronto) 4pw - seasonal
zimi 10 širokotrupnih tjedno, u sezoni čak 16!
BEG:
Hainan (Seoul) 2pw - year round
Air Serbia (New York) 5pw - year round
u jednom periodu zimi svega 4 širokotrupna tjedno, u najboljem slučaju ljeti - 7.
I guess they are not annoying you anymore ;)
Bravo, ZAG!
pozz iz splita
Pridruzujem se cestitkama Zagrebu.
Pozz iz NS
This is THE absolute comment of the day ie. that JU hasn't contributed to the Serbian budget with any tax since it was created !!
It contributes by way of:
1. PDV for goods and services that it consumes, from every aspect of procurement that is involved in running an airline - from raw materials in the production of catering; to fuel excises that it pays in buying jet fuel.
2. Airport taxes and fees
3. Indirectly, the income tax that its employees and all employees of it's suppliers pay...
These are just 3 things that come to mind, but there are others as well
Ovde ima barem vise Srba koji vam cestitaju dok sa vase strane sem Purgera nesto nisam video cestitke.
Ne verujete mi? Prebrojte cestitke iz Srbije i uporedite ih sa brojem cestitki iz Hrvatske na jucerasnjoj temi.
With arrival of Korean, and soon ANA to Zagreb, we'd have all 3 markets from my list sorted. Getting Chinese carrier to get in, would than be the priority by 2020.
I am also hoping Air Transat starts Zagreb - Montreal service, even at risk of Toronto reduction, 2020 would be ideal, perhaps they test the waters this year, with 5 scheduled flights and next year with perhaps 12 such flights and 2020 go seasonally.
Getting Brazilian and Mexican carriers to do seasonal service to Zagreb say before 2025, would also be nice.
Drugo, mislim da BEG nikako ne kaska u odnosu na ZAG po pitanju long haul destinacija, ima Peking I NY, ZAG ima YYZ i ICN. Druga stvar je broj aviokompanija koje odrzavaju taj let I koliko cesto. I jedan I drugi imaju let za DXB samo sto ZAG ide sa Widebody a BEG sa narowbody
It shouldn't as Zurich in huge demand, there's 20 000 strong Croatian community in and around Zurich, some 80 000 Croats live in Switzerland. Right now, air passenger traffic between two cities is significant, 5th most popular destination behind Munich, Frankfurt, Vienna and Amsterdam.
Problem i see if Swiss, they suppose to go year round, not sure this is now likely, as they'll see Korean as additional capacity.
Croatia in winter months flies to Zurich daily with Q400, that is total of 550 per week, and demand in winters is around 1750, Korean Air will cover some of the demand,but there's room for additional flights. OU could send A319 and Korean with A330 trice weekly, would cover it. I guess we'll see if Swiss waits another year before extending year round.
Bravo Hrvatska !!
Chinese carriers next, China Air or China Eastern perhaps ? Would also like to see Singapore Air in Zagreb, they've shown interest for the route, and CAA has been talking to them for a while now, they might be enticed to come next year.
Of European Carriers we still need:
SAS - Copenhagen, Stockholm, Oslo
Finnair - Helsinki
Air Baltic - Riga, Vilnius, Talinn
Aer Lingus - Dublin,
Easy Jet - LGW, Birmingham, Manchester, Edinburgh
TAP Portugal - lisabon, Porto - Seasonal
TAROM - Bucharest
Ukraine International - Kiev
AlItalia - Rome, Milan, Bologna, Genoa, Venice
Transavia France - Bordeaux, Nice, Lyon and Marseilles
Vueling - year round service to Barcelona
Seasonal to Valencia and Seville
If we can get all these carriers by 2020 or in 2020, that'd be something really great.
And this is primarily due to Emirates request, the earliest we could see A380 landing in Zagreb is 2020. No idea when Budapest suppose to get its A380.
ANA airlines will be announcing something soon, so it seems they're quite likely to also start direct flights to Zagreb, from Tokyo at first, with Osaka possibly at the later stage.
So Beijing, Seoul and Tokyo will be connected with Zagreb year round from next year,with Seoul from September this year, Tokyo early spring next year and Beijing from May 1st 2019.
ANNA should announce their flight sometimes early next month, Hainan Airlines will be announcing it towards the end of June.
Singapore Airlines is also in the game, as they're looking at seasonal flights connecting Singapore with Zagreb from Summer next year. The talks are ongoing and we'll know early next year regarding Singapore.
So,
ANNA,
Korean Air
Hainan Airlines
are coming to Zagreb, really great news. Very exciting times ahead fro Croatia and in particular Zagreb.
Also, not related, Hilton is looking to build 5* Hotel in Zagreb, 250 room hotel will be very centrally located. Also as we speak 9 brand new hotels are under construction in Zagreb, all 4* hotels with one possibly 5* hotel.
Zagreb will need at least 20 new hotels by 2020, to meet the demand.
+ Air Transat 2pw
+ Emirates 7pw
+ Air Canada Rouge 4pw
In just two years!
More then enough action
No, I am just saying 2nd Hilton Hotel in Zagreb, Kempinski is also looking to build an hotel in Zagreb, all 5*, so far Zagreb has only three 5* hotels,
Esplanade - 215 rooms
Westin - 457 rooms
Shereton - 325 rooms
ZAG nikad nece dostici BEG po broju putnika.
Isto tako, Srbija nikad nece dostici Hrvatsku po broju putnika.
To su cinjenice.
2 razlicite drzave sa 2 razlicita temelja razvoja zracnog prometa.
KE920 ZAG 17:20 - ICN 11:30 ---4-6-
KE920 ZAG 17:45 - ICN 11:55 -2-----
KE919 ICN 11:00 - ZAG 15:45 -2-----
KE919 ICN 11:05 - ZAG 15:45 ---4-6-
O cemu ti to?
Sto ti imas s BEG da bi ti ja cestito?
Ili sto ja imam s ZAG da bi mi ti cestitao?
Niti radim za njih, niti sam sudjelivao u bilo kojem od poslovnih pothvata istoga.
Mi smo samo mali kozumenti usluga istih.
Poistovjecivati se s istima......stvarno djetinjasto.
Bilo bi dobro idući puta provjeriti brojke prije nego se negšto ustvrdi
To dovoljno govori o dijagnozi krhka ega.
So all together it id 1059 rooms with some 2.100 bads in 5*****.
Zagreb has 20 4**** hotels.