Air Serbia is preparing to announce the expansion of its destination network for the upcoming 2022/23 winter season, which begins on October 30. Last Friday, the carrier was issued an operating permit by the China Civil Aviation Administration for the introduction of a one weekly passenger and cargo service from Belgrade to Tianjin, as a temporary solution until services to Beijing and Shanghai are made possible once Covid-19 restrictions are lifted. Furthermore, the carrier plans to commence seasonal winter operations to Havana, which are expected to launch in December. In addition, the Serbian carrier is set to grow its European route network this winter. The new destinations will be gradually put on sale in the coming weeks.
Air Serbia has begun modifying its timetable for the upcoming winter. In addition to scheduling extra New York flights, which will run between three and five times per week from late October until the end of March of 2023, it has also retimed some of its Zagreb operations. The airline will be offering late night services to the Croatian capital on select days for the first time, as well as an early morning return to Belgrade, enabling passengers to better connect onto its growing long haul network. In addition, Air Serbia has put on sale winter flights for some of the new routes it inaugurated over the summer, including Valencia, Lyon, Bologna, Hannover, and Nuremberg. More adjustments are expected in the coming weeks.
The Serbian carrier has also begun teasing with the arrival of its second widebody Aibus A330-200 aircraft with adverts at Belgrade Airport (pictured above). The 268-seat jet is to enter commercial service on behalf of the airline in late October. The Serbian carrier will also expand its fleet with an additional A320 jet by the end of the year, while a further two ATR72-600 turboprops are set to arrive between September and December, which will replace the remaining older versions of the aircraft still in operation. The airline has indicated it could further grow its ATR fleet by an additional five units, while the older turboprops, which are now being gradually retired, could be converted into freighter aircraft, if ongoing feasibility studies show there is sufficient demand.
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Congratulations Air Serbia. What will be the schedule to Tianjin?
ReplyDeleteI don't know the timings but with 1 weekly flight I'm pretty sure the plane will spend 24hrs in Tianjin and the same crew will do the return flight, especially with the quarantine measures in China.
DeleteYes that would make sense.
DeleteThe only real airline still operating in ExYu... Kudos to them, especially if we think about where they were 10 years ago
ReplyDelete+1
DeleteWow... the other airlines must be imaginary? Since only it has a "real" airline, I mean whatever that means????
DeleteIf an airline has a plane and passengers, it is real.
I swear, some people...
As far as I know there are still Croatia airlines and Air Montenegro around.
DeleteCroatia costing much less Croatian tax payers and and charging them (Croatian taxpayers) far less than JU in the peak season.
Croatia costing much less? Hah
DeleteAhahahahahaha OU costing taxpayers less 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
DeleteDelusional...
Sve sami Bil Gejcovi ovde koji plaćaju desetine miliona poreza godišnje i zgražavaju se nad subvencijama koje dobija Air Serbia... savet, bolje obratite pažnju koliko plaćamo uvoz energije. Za samo mesec dana potroši se na naftu i gas direktno iz deviznih rezervi koliko Air Serbia nije dobila za sve ove godine ukupno, a neće ni za narednih 50.
Delete+ 1000 @An.09:02 and -1000 for Kradeze bots who are supporting humiliating corrupted insignificant regional feeder Croatia Airlines which over 30 years sucked in much more Croatian budget money than Air Serbia over 10 years with results any normal person could be only ashamed of
DeleteAnon@22:11
DeleteKakve veze ima koliko Srbija uvozi energetike sa koliko se subveniše Air Serbia? Mešaš grandmothers & frogs.
Looking forward to see the European additions
ReplyDeleteSo, long haul this winter
ReplyDelete3x-5x New York
2x Havana
1x Tianjin
Where did you hear that Havana will be 2x weekly?
DeleteWell they said they want to have transfers so one weekly doesn't make sense. It will have to be at least 2 weekly, I don't think 3 weekly will be realistic.
DeleteHopefully Cubans traveling to Europe for, business, sports teams, diplomatic corps, can use these flights.
DeleteThey don't have much choice so I think this route will be popular even if they will operate it seasonally until they start ORD.
DeleteMakes sense since the HAV frequencies will be switched to ORD. They don't have enough planes for both HAV and ORD.
DeleteYes, but they also don’t have enough demand for HAV in the summer.
DeleteIt has already been said Havana will be seasonal winter flight. All European airlines fly to Havana only in winter - i.e. high season in Cuba.
DeleteI think AF and BA fly the whole year.
DeleteBA does not fly to Havana.
DeleteWait so will they fly seasonally to HAV in the winter, and seasonally to ORD in the summer? Or will they get another plane to be able to operate ORD year round, increase frequencies, and add destinations?
DeleteI think it will depend on their finances. If JU doesn't perform well in winter then they risk burning all the cash they made in summer. JU has minimal marketing activities and they usually hope that routes will sell themselves which they do in summer because of so much demand. In winter you need to work hard to reduce your losses.
DeleteAdding flights left and right is one thing but making them commercially viable is a whole different story. If JU loses millions then I could see Marek sacked by the government. If they perform ok in winter then I can see 3rd A330 being added to the fleet next year.
No, ORD will be year round. And yes, they already said they are looking at a third A330 (there was an article here). Obviously, Havana might be a one season thing if they don't get a third A330.
DeleteJust because they are looking at it doesn't mean it's coming. Like I said, it will depend how well their finances perform. Don't forget that Marek came from Alitalia, Malev and CSA all airlines that grew, had large networks but failed in the end. That is why I am cautious to see where this growth will take them and how profitable it will be for them in the end. That is what I think will decide if 3rd A330 is coming or not.
DeleteGovernment only cares about how much JU makes or loses in the end.
Oh it's you, the guy who was writing constant comments about Marek. Welcome back. Ok got it.
DeleteNo, that was not me back then. If you noticed I am saying that it could go either way. However I don't see a single argument you are presenting to counter what I said? Are you a JU bot?
DeleteI still believe what I said. The fate of the 3rd A330 will depend on how well they do this winter. Please feel free to change my mind with valid and sound arguments.
JU was never profitable.
DeleteIf Marek decrease their loss or remain on cca 20 mil EUR Government support with so many new destinations by improving connectivity I could say he did great job.
I'm not here to counter anything you said. I said they were looking at a third A330. You went on to write an essay about Marek.
DeleteIs there any profitability on JFK route outside of 15 June - 15 September and Christmas period?
DeleteSo many experts here...
DeleteWhat will ORD frequencies be like in the winter? Could they increase this upcoming summer if there is demand?
DeleteAir Serbia must become profitable.
DeleteRegardless who is funding the airline, a government or a private company, they will all expect a return on their investment. Next year Air Serbia is turning 10 years old so a whole decade has passed without them becoming truly profitable. Unfortunately we wasted several years because of Etihad's delusional business practices.
For the past few years Air Serbia has shown promising signs but it is still too early (mostly because of covid) to truly judge how efficient their recent policies have been.
I doubt covid related restrictions will be back so 2023 will be the first real year after which we will be able to judge how successful/competent their management was.
They profited greatly from the war in Ukraine as all that extra demand helped them rebuild their old network, get extra cash and launch new destinations. At the end of the day, both Malev and Austrian Airlines profited from Yugoslavia's disintegration while neither one managed to truly consolidate their long-term business operations. OS might be big but they are struggling to turn a profit and LH is treating them like a bastard child. The other day they announced the introduction of new seats in all classes but this will happen only in LH and LX, two truly profitable airlines in the groupation. Hopefully Air Serbia uses this situation to develop a great and competitive commercial policy since the Serbian economy will keep on growing meaning their competition will stick around to profit from it. By having some profit (no matter how small it is), that cash will be theirs and they could use it as they see fit without having to justify every cent to the government.
Without a competitive commercial policy they will struggle to develop new markets with minimal O&D demand. Some of these destinations are Beirut, Warsaw, Budapest and so on. Most of the routes they operate right now rely on local demand which is a great start but they have to build on that.
Like I said, let's wait until the end of 2023 and if nothing major happens we will judge their progress.
OS will get the new seats as well.
DeleteMaybe something changed. I read this article which only mentions LX and LH.
Deletehttps://www.archyde.com/battle-for-premium-claims-lufthansa-and-swiss-get-31000-new-seats/
Actually JU had night flights to ZAG around Christmas last year. They ran for about a month. If JU can catch some long-haul passengers than it will be decent competition to LH Group cartel.
ReplyDelete* then
DeleteAnd new Airbus A320-232 skarlets arriving in fleet, ex VT-TTK , first flight 2016
ReplyDeleteWhen?
DeleteWhen?
DeleteIn September, operational department is already working on it.
DeleteWhat?!
DeleteIt will be the youngest plane in their fleet.
DeleteActually YU-ALX is just 4 years old.
DeleteSorry. My bad.
Deleteis that plane the A320 mentioned in this article or you are talking about additional one?
DeleteIt is the one mentioned in the article.
DeleteLjubljana should see 3rd daily flight IMO... Start with 3 night and 2 12pm flights just to test the water and go from there
ReplyDeleteIf JU was to add night flights to LJU then they would be brutal, at like 04.30 and that wouldn't be competitive with LH group. Better to add midday flight.
DeleteFor JFK it would make sense, also for business travelers it would be great, you would be at your destination at 9-10 instead of 1pm and back home at 8pm.
DeleteI said they should test both
Realistically speaking, BEG-LJU-BEG should be 4 daily in the future. They already managed to operate it triple daily with a lot of success.
DeleteLJU is pretty much off limits for night flights, as scheduled takeoffs and landings between 23h and 6h are not permitted due to noise and fire/rescue cover.
DeleteThat's not true, DHL has schedule line on Monday with 757 at 2am in the morning, charters are also scheduled at 2-3am etc
Delete@ 11:49
DeleteAgree. Hurghada often arrives at 3 AM (when it's not delayed) and DHL, at least on Mondays, at around 2 AM. Again, if it's not delayed...
Bravo JU!
ReplyDeleteSo there will be new route in Europe too? Interesting. Maybe Tenerife?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.exyuaviation.com/2022/08/air-serbia-to-focus-on-new-sun.html
DeleteThis photo really looks nice.
ReplyDeleteWhat huge development from JU this year. Well done really. Lot of things to still sort out but at least they are growing and developing and offering passengers more choice.
ReplyDeleteGreat to see so many of the new routes going year round. I'm pretty sure Sochi will be added too. The flights are constantly sold out.
ReplyDeleteI'm really happy Valencia is year round. So now they have 3 Spanish routes throughout the year. Palma I wasn't expecting to be year round.
DeletePMI was planned as summer seasonal from the start, same with Bari.
DeleteI still don't get the logic of launching Havana over Toronto.
ReplyDeleteProbably want to get ORD up and running successfully first.
DeleteYYZ is coming, don't worry amigo.
They obviously did the math. They know Canada exists. But remember to factor in the costs of flying both routes. Something tells me Toronto is more expensive.
DeleteI think it is due to Russian tourists as Aeroflot does not fly anymore to Cuba and it was one of the most popular destinations for them.
DeleteBy Ffying to HAV they would be able to fill additionally planes from Russia to Belgrade as well as from their other destinations. Mind you, the competition to Toronto is much bigger than to HAV and Canada still keeps certain entry regulations unlike Cuba.
Fo sures demand is there, it's just issue of timing.
DeleteWell if YYZ-BEG is so hot then why isn't any Canadian carrier launching it? Obviously yields are trash.
DeleteYields are similar to JFK.
DeleteDoubtful since New York is basically the capital of the Western world while Toronto is like gasto central.
DeleteThe more I read these comments, the more I pray JU never launches YYZ.
DeleteYYZ cheerleading squad is extremely cringe...
DeleteLike just calm down and wait.
Wait? as opposed to what?
DeleteCouple of responses:
DeleteToronto airport is more expensive? Same range as JFK, even cheaper recently. Similar yields, so YYZ being more expensive is not a reason.
NYC vs TOR, both are Balkan gasto centrals for USA/CAN. It's not like Air Serbia has cream of the crop customers from the capital of the Western world (Bezos, Buffet, Musk etc) - their customers are same Balkan immigrants as in Toronto.
YYZ will never be able to feed ORD-BEG flights. JU made a rookie mistake there. Is the other way possible, ORD feeding potential YYZ-BEG flights? Read the bilaterals and see for yourself.
Air Serbia had Chicago office back in 2016 at N Cummberland Ave, when Air Serbia didn't have plans to fly to ORD. Those things influenced launch of Chicago more than some fake calculations. YYZ has almost 50% more passengers to BEG than ORD and nothing Air Serbia can do to erase that fact.
Yes Air Serbia made fake calculations and decided to launch ORD for the fun of it.. some of you people are delusional.
DeleteWhy would Air Serbia want to erase pax numbers?
DeleteAir Serbia decided to launch Chicago based not based on numbers but other factors. Bilateral frequency limitatiation gives insight into Air Serbia decision making. Air Canada was quoted here saying 2 per week frequency is a deterrent for them. It can be deducted Serbian side pushed for that limitation as they didn't want to launch Toronto but also wanted to prevent or discourage Canadian companies from doing so.
DeletePassenger numbers are another strong indication Toronto should have been launched ahead of Chicago. Those are cold facts, not some delusional conspiracy theories.
I see people keep on repeating that YYZ has similar yields as JFK. Do we have any data to back that claim? Somehow I have a hard time believing it.
Delete@Anon 23:40 What does having an office in Chicago have to do with anything? They still have it, and it’s an office for agencies.
DeleteSo when Covid is over they will fly to Beijing. Which airport is more likely, PEK or PKX?
ReplyDeletePEK
Delete...or Shanghai...
DeleteShanghai makes more sense. Not only is there more passengers than Beijing but they also wouldn't compete against Hainan.
DeleteThere was someone here saying that Air Serbia, Hainan Airlines, and China Airlines will all offer 14pw flights between PEK, PVG, and I belive CAN each. Don’t know…
Deletebetween each city too.
DeleteChina Airlines?
DeleteYes
DeleteChina Airlines for sure won't operate between BEG and PEK, PVG, CAN..
DeleteOr maybe Air China. Either way probably not all sorry
DeleteErm China Airlines is based in Taipei guys. Air China is the national carrier of legitimate China, the real China that is.
DeleteI read in one of Marek's interviews (I think it was in Blic) that 200 people applied for the job of cabin crew. That's really not a lot so they should work on improving their work conditions as obviously people are no longer rushing to work there.
ReplyDeleteNo, he said 200 people applied in the first 2 days!
DeleteOver 200 people in 2 days better said.
Delete"Za samo dva dana nam se javilo više od 200 kandidata."
That's still not a lot
DeleteWhat is then "a lot" for you? 10.000 people? Or is that also too small?
Delete100 people applying pe day is not a lot to you. Ok.
Delete*per
DeleteActually, it's not. Almost anyone under 40 can apply, as no degree is required, only basic to intermediate English. It's also a very romantic job with a lot of appeal, so you'll see all kind of people applying. Having in mind they don't open competition for 5 or 10 vacancies, 200 or 500 is really not too much to choose from. Which is fine, job market is really good - businesses need to step up in order to attract good people.
DeletePovecanje interkontinentalnih letova, i povecanje broja letova i destinacija na Evropskim destinacijama, Air Serbia
ReplyDeletece stvoriti dobru osnovu buduceg razvoja. Jos kada bih u
buducnosti nabavila tri do cetiri manja turbopropa za sekundarne i tercijalne aerodrome u okolnim drzavama... doprinos turistickom prometu bio bi veoma veliki.
Verujem da, ce se to i ostvariti u vremenu koje dolazi.
Za sada ocigledno razvoj Srpske nacionalne avio kompanije, kao i razvoj aerodromske strukture se priprema za bolja vremena. Jedino Kraljevacka Morava nikako da zapocne Novu pistu sa Kargo Centrom? Ni na Uzickim Ponikvama nema mnogo pomaka...
Radovan Marinkovic AME.
Srbija.🇷🇸✈🌐🛫♥️
A na koje sekundarne i tercijalne aerodrome u okolni mislite?
DeleteKukes, Plovdiv, Mostar, Kluz, Ohrid 😂
DeleteTimişoara, Burgas, Maribor, maybe Tuzla.
DeleteBuduci Trebinjski, Bihacki, Saranda, Osjek, Brac... Hvala Bogu, ima ih i bice uzduz i popreko Jonskog i Egejskog mora...
DeleteZa desetak godina dosta ce se menjati i u ovom delu Evrope. Pogotovo u mrezama low-cost, carter saobracaju, ad hok...
Za Osijek? Da li znate udaljenost izmedju Osijeka i Beograda?
DeleteVery surprised to see Lyon staying for the winter.
ReplyDeleteGlad to see them expanding.
Although some people claimed that TRS has the worst results among new destinations it seems they keep flying there in WITT as well.
DeleteCorrection. They fly there only in code share with ITA during the winter.
DeleteYes, don't think Trieste is coming back in the winter. Will be interesting to see what happens to Salzburg.
DeleteFriend of mine flew to SZG like a week ago or so and load was maybe 50%. I think Memmingen is too close.
DeleteWith ATR it is not so problematic.
DeleteI hope they consider MBX if they add more ATR72-600.
ReplyDeleteWhy would they?
DeleteLJU is close enough with many JU frequencies. Let FR fly to MBX.
Look at the map. They fly to VCE, TRS, PUY, RJK, LJU and ZAG. All are very close to each other. I don't see a reason why they wouldn't fly to MBX.
DeleteMBX would cover Graz better
DeleteVCE, TRS, PUY, RJK are all cities on the coast unlike MBX.
DeleteLJU and ZAG are the capital cities of their countries with much bigger demand than MBX.
MBX is only 1 hour closer to GRZ than LJU or VIE. Not even close as a reason to start flying there.
So JU should focus only on costal and capital cities and no more?
DeleteIn small countries like Slovenia no more. Especially to the airport nobody is flying to.
DeleteIn much bigger countries like Germany they fly to many more destinations which are not on coast and which are not capital cities.
MBX will work with 3 flights per week year round. LJU is not so close as it seems. Highway is jammed quite often, airport transfers from LJU to MBX are almost non-existing and all other airports require border crossing which is painful and unpredictable in high season
DeleteLJU-MBX 130 km. Very far away.
DeleteLJU-MBX transfers? Are you real?
Which all other airport require border crossings? You do know that Slovenia is in Schengen and they do not have boarding controls with Hungary, Austria and Italy while starting from next year those with Croatia will be also removed? What is then painful?
The fact that you would like, due to your personal reasons, BEG-MBX to be opened is something totally else, but far from reality.
Hopefully they pull their act together this winter and reduce delays. This summer was a complete disaster.
ReplyDeleteLike at every European airport with every European airline.
DeleteAir Serbia and BEG were good considering AMS, LHR, CDG, AF, BA, KL, etc.
DeleteWell there were airline out there that performed well this summer so obviously some did ok. Real question is why JU wasn't among those?
DeleteBtw maybe paying your staff €500 is not enough to motivate them to work hard. Same with BEG.
DeleteThe last weekend was catastrophic in terms of delays, they seem to give priority to charter flights (although many were delayed too) over regular destinations. Looks like APK is still out of service almost 1 week to replace the engine!?! Shame on JU for such performance.
DeleteInteresting you did not write the reason for delays that was out of JU control.
DeleteWeather. With such a weather in its hub each company would have huge delays and many more cancellations than JU had. Actually they had only 2 or 3 flights cancelled.
YU-APK is not in BEG that job can be finished so quickly.
@10:33 are you paid to promote and excuse Air Serbia of all wrong doings? Mind you most foreign carriers had a relatively smooth sky over the weekend in flying in / out of Belgrade but Air Serbia had massive delays over the 3 entire days. As for the replacement of the engine Ok, in Tiv by the time the engine gets delivered by road it should be 3-4 days max but not a week as is the case. Stop excusing them, deserved critic is the only way how they can maybe improve.
DeleteDeliver engine by road to Tivat? Really?
DeleteNo, I am their FF and I can see how much they got improved, but I wonder who is paying you to be so critical.
DeleteGosh, try at least to read carefully what I wrote, it is not that difficult. I wrote that any other company in ITS HUB would face similiar problems. Sending one plane to weather problematic area is one thing and keeping its fleet there is totally another. Basic things.
And as you mention foreign airlines almost all of them had delays due to bad weather
KLM 8 hours
Swiss 4,5 hours
Air Montenegro 4,5 hours
Lufthansa 2 hours
Turkish 2 hours
Wizz air between 1 and 3 hours
etc
I am always for deserved critics, but when it is realistic. Based on your claims it seems they keep APK in TIV only because they intend to torture their passengers with one plane less in their fleet.
Get real.
Weather was a big problem for operations since Friday. Flights to/from the north were flying more east than usual. One of the BEG-TIV flights even went over Kosovar airspace over the weekend due to weather.
DeleteHowever, JU could of better communicated the problem to passengers.
And as usual (unfortunately), the airport was flooded once again.
Could of
DeleteAnon 10:55 it would be interesting to know what you consider as much improved in ASL services? From their fresh start I only witness a decline of their offerings (no business class seats, catering non existent, site timetable is useless, lounge partially open...etc). The only thing they improved a lot are prices of tickets.
DeleteTheir lounge in Belgrade works normally.
DeleteFlew from Rijeka on JU on Saturday. Flight was delayed 9 hours. Not a single email or text regarding delays etc. Missed my train to NS and had to pay 110 euros for taxi.
DeleteI will be filing a complaint with Air Serbia.
My aunt lives in Oslo and she was telling me that Air Serbia has really damaged its reputation in Norway in winter and spring. They kept on delaying and cancelling flights without informing them. I think it was in February or March that they arrived to the airport and the check in was still closed. Some 30 minutes later she told her daughter to check with BEG website and that's how they learned their flight was cancelled. An hour before take off they received an email telling them that it was cancelled and to contact their ground staff. She said many experienced similar situations over the winter season. I guess it should not come as a surprise why DY does well on OSL-BEG.
DeleteDestroyed reputation and they added flights to Oslo and the planes are almost full? How?
DeleteWell they didn't manage to beat DY which almost went bankrupt a few months ago and barely made it out alive.
DeleteDon't forget that JU carries a lot of transfers on this route. Air Serbia needs to have a stable operation for at least a year for trust to come back. This summer they did ok, we need to wait and see what happens when winter comes and if they will cancel flights again.
I just don't understand why they can't send an email or sms as soon as they know there will be a delay. Very unprofessional.
DeleteI think they could easily since they send you an sms reminder about your flight. I think it's 24 hours before your scheduled take off time. That said, I don't know if this service only works if you have a Serbian sim card.
DeleteNo, it does not.
DeleteOne thing that worries me is that no other chinese airline flies to any european destination from Tianjin , exept Tianjin airlines to London . I just wonder if this was the right decision on behalf of Air Serbia management .
ReplyDeleteLOT flies to Tianjin. Beijing and Shanghai can't be launched at this moment. There was an article here where the Air Serbia CEO stated that Tianjin will be offered until Covid restrictions can be lifted. Then they will fly to Beijing and Shanghai. But he said Tianjin may stay together with Beijing and Shanghai if the results are good.
DeleteYes
DeleteThe Serbian carrier has also begun teasing should read in continuation - passengers with regards to their timetable and ability to plan connection flights.
ReplyDeleteGood to see such long haul and European expansions. A little bit off topic from Air Serbia, but to Belgrade airport, with major expansion finishing next year (or year after, not sure exactly when). I was just wondering what does everyone think Belgrade passenger numbers will be out to 2028 for example? BEG future looks promising with the expansion and long haul flights coming in.
ReplyDeleteSince you mention BEG airport , does anyone know when they are going to announce passengers numbers for july ?
DeleteAdmin already wrote a few days ago that they will be thos Thursday.
Delete*this
DeleteBEG in 2028 will be 10-12 million I think.
DeleteYes I also think BEG will be over 10 million by 2028 especially if JU manages to efficiently grow its network. Demand should become even stronger if the economy keeps growing at this pace.
DeleteIt is strange that they are not sending the A320 more often to Moscow anymore when flights are full. Also noticed that in the last couple of weeks they seem to have reduced frequencies to Moscow. Most flight are now operated with A319.
ReplyDeleteFrequencies are not reduced. You got something wrong.
DeleteIt's good that they started the A320 on night flights to Istanbul to send.
DeleteThey had 3 days with 2x flight per day , now it looks like only 2 days x 2 flights a day which is a reduction of 1 flight per week
Delete2 daily flights on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Fridays. On other days, one daily flight. A total of 10 weekly flights.
DeleteSo they have more flights than they had a few months ago.
DeleteExactly.
Delete10x SVO,
3x LED,
3x AER.
I hope we can see someday a flights to India and Japan perhaps.
ReplyDeleteDelhi and Tokyo would be great
DeleteMumbai and Osaka would be better! ))
DeleteWhy Osaka?
DeleteDecision for Havana flights on JU are for Russian market. Pretty good move and it is obvious decision. China flights are because bulk of Business & Travel growth towards Asia in medium term, 10-15 years.
ReplyDeleteToronto flights will never happen. Chicago won, Toronto lost. Lets move on.
all depends om the pricing in terms of will it work for Rissian tourists. Gares to Havana from Russia are currently over 4000e so tourist demand for Cuba is minimal
DeleteAnonymous20:27
DeleteMy understanding is that EU Mediterranean market for Russian tourist will be closed for the foreseeable future. So Russian market is left with few good options: Turkey, Thailand, Egypt
So Cuba with magnificent beaches and decent hotel infrastructure is pretty good addition to the above mentioned hot spots.
@Boris I think Toronto is just a matter of time. There is a huge Balkan diaspora in Toronto, as big as Chicago and probably similar to NY. ORD was chosen ahead of YYZ probably for logistical reasons, ie, Air Serbia already serves one city in the USA so it was easier, paper work wise, to add ORD, instead of YYZ.
ReplyDelete@Charlie
DeleteMaybe, but I have some reservations for that:
Balkan Diaspora is big in Greater Toronto area but it is very seasonal and almost exclusively leisure Pax ..few months in the summer and Christmas time.
I think it could grow into 4x weekly in summer, and 2x in winter.
DeleteSo many Indian tourists in Serbia.They should look into flights to India.
ReplyDeleteMost of those are actually from the UAE not India.
DeleteOh didn’t know that but it makes sense.
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